BBC1 Tonight at 9 - To Kill a Burglar: The Tony Martin Story

[anonymous-user]

Should make interesting viewing especially seeing as it contains testimony from both Tony Martin and the little shit head, sorry, wounded burglar, Brendon Fearon!

[ps2gamer890]

It's a miscarriage of justice that Martin got the rap if you ask me. He was just trying to defend himself and his home. Afterall, dead scum don't commit crimes.

[t1grm]

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He did get murder and then it was reduced to manslaughter on appeal on grounds of diminished responsibility.

I thought I heard a while back that he'd been kidnapped by pikeys who had a price on his head?

[simpo two]

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That's right, as they have no money they can't be FINED so the Govt has no control over them, short of prison.

The rest of us our controlled by FINES; have you noticed that?

[bga]

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It made me laugh when I read that Fearon had been beaten up by a bunch of travellers in a pub for giving them a bad name. Wish I could find a link to it

[chilli]

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[timmy30]

anonymous said:

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What would a rambler be doing in the middle of the night, in his house????

[Ecks Ridgehead]

timmy30 said:

anonymous said: [redacted] What would a rambler be doing in the middle of the night, in his house????

Running away, I'd have thought.

[C C]

anonymous said:

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Not that I totally disapprove of shooting ramblers. It’s unlikely a rambler would be climbing in his ground-floor window late at night.

Seriously though if Barras had perhaps been given sterner sentences earlier in his short life he may have had second thoughts about attempting to burgle Bleak House in the first place and therefor would still be alive today.
I really believe that soft treatment of juvenile offenders is doing them or the community at large absolutely no favours at all.

[Jaglover]

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Very well said Tonker; I agree entirely.

[Furyblade_Lee]

If anyone breaks into my house with my wife and baby asleep, they are dead, period. Had i had been in Tony Martins shoes I wouldn't have missed the other bastard either. You play with fire, you get burned. It's like those muppets who throw bricks at British Para's with big guns. If I threw a brick at a Para, which is a weapon intent to injure, i'd expect to get shot. Maybe i am stupid?

[mojocvh]

There is also the matter of the unlawful ownership of firearms to consider.
In fact if he'd carried out his actions today he well may have recieved harsher sentencing for the firearms crime than the killing. Weird Huh?

MoJo.

[zeb]

Good post tonker...i agree

[Furyblade_Lee]

Not condoning weapons to "neutralise" intruders(or people sniffing round your property with intent to steal it), BUT , WHAT I FOUND WORKS is a C02 fire extinguisher. You know the type, big black horn. As forementioned undesirable approches in the dark, squeeze the trigger and give them that delightful 130db blast to the face. As they are thinking "what the bloody hell was that" and are in an extreme state of shock and profoundley deaf, you are then free to escort them from the premesis (or hit them in the face with the bottom of it). It also works with local drug dealers dogs (ahem). When the judge at your manslaughter trial asks why you had a CO2 fire extinguisher in your bedroom, simply reply "To put fires out, Your Honour"

[greg_D]

Furyblade_Lee said:

When the judge at your manslaughter trial asks why you had a CO2 fire extinguisher in your bedroom, simply reply "To put fires out, Your Honour"

screw justifying your position to the court, if someone was in my house and was not running away when confronted, you have to assume that they are going to attempt to injure you or your family, in that circumstance they would get whatever was to hand (i use a dumbell bar, just the right length and would do a lot more damage than a baseball bat)

[anonymous-user]

I think these parasites should be forced into drug trials. Much better sentence than 10 years/serve 3 in a nicely warmed cell!!

I'd love to see them with a head the size of a spacehopper!!

[alfaman]

running the prison service in the UK costs way too much .

we should outsource prisons to somewhere like Malawi or Zambia - and keep the prisoners busy building roads , schools and water supply.

(well we did it once before ........ )

[racefan_uk]

If someone broke into my property and I'd given them both barrells I'd make sure there wasn't a body to find to incriminate me in the first place.

The ers would never do it again. At least that way it'd be sure to help the crime figures in some way.

[alfaman]

anonymous said:

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a jail like "Escape from New York" ? - just ring-fence some crappy town and let them get on with it . very low supervision costs.

[Furyblade_Lee]

Last year a friend of mine (have to be careful here legally) was cleared of manslaughter at the Old Bailey (was origionally murder) after he "defended" his family from someone who had been systematically terrorising them for months. Despite hard taped evidence of threats of murder, rape of his mum, and killing the baby (i am NOT joking) THE POLICE DID NOT EVEN INTERVIEW THE MAN, and would not until he actually DID something. The guy one night crashed a stolen car INTO his house, attacked 3 vehicles on the drive with various weapons and was attempting to smash the front door down to gain access to them all when he recieved a crossbow bolt to the thigh from an upstairs window. The tt was wanted for drugs and armed robbery offences so couldnt go to hospital and subsequently bled to death when he pulled the bolt out himself. My friend was genuinly sorry for killing him but the consequences of letting the guy into his house do not bear comparison. I know I would have done the same.
If the police would have just taken the time to use surveillance and catch him in the weeks previous it would not have happened at all and he'd still be alive.
There were 15 of them in the same road a week before checking tax discs.