Can you lay concrete in the rain?
Discussion
Parrot of Doom said:
I remember something on telly about 2 gay blokes, 1 of them shoved some wet concrete up the other's arse, I don't know, some kind of 'lets make it a perfect fit' adventure.
Only the concrete set.
And it wouldn't come back out.
And they had to go to the hospital and explain how it got there.
Only the concrete set.
And it wouldn't come back out.
And they had to go to the hospital and explain how it got there.
That would redefine the term "pebbledashing the bog" wouldn't it !
Parrot of Doom said:
I remember something on telly about 2 gay blokes, 1 of them shoved some wet concrete up the other's arse, I don't know, some kind of 'lets make it a perfect fit' adventure.
Only the concrete set.
And it wouldn't come back out.
And they had to go to the hospital and explain how it got there.
Only the concrete set.
And it wouldn't come back out.
And they had to go to the hospital and explain how it got there.
What in gods name type of TV are you watching?
Edited to add thats any God, not a specific one.
Edited by BoRED S2upid on Thursday 23 November 15:25
bennno said:
King Herald said:
Hardest part was carrying all the stuff 25 metres from the front drive to the back garden.
This is a garage you are building? is there not vehicular access ?
bennno
Yes, but funnily enough, access is through the existing garage, of which I knocked the back wall out a couple of months ago.
Them brown doors in the distance go to the garage.
This is priceless, really. I hope that you got the job done ok. The rain wont make any 
ing difference. Your next problem if youre not careful is that frost will affect the mortar of the blockwork youre going to build and that WILL be a problem. The only solution other than take it back indoors with you is to cover it with hessian for insulation and then a tarpaulin to keep the water off. Good Luck! 
ing difference. Your next problem if youre not careful is that frost will affect the mortar of the blockwork youre going to build and that WILL be a problem. The only solution other than take it back indoors with you is to cover it with hessian for insulation and then a tarpaulin to keep the water off. Good Luck! bennno said:
King Herald said:
bennno said:
footings should be about 1.2M deep, biggest risk is them caving in if you try to do it in the wet. plus it will be a bugger to mix and the rain may wash the cement out. better to wait for it to stop raining
most get ready mix delivered as its rapid set and consistent....
bennno
1.2m??? It's only a simple breeze block double garage I'm building, not the Taj Mahal
.
1.2x0.6 wide is the current UK standard. We did a 4.5x3m single story extension and the footings took 7m2
how deep have you dug for the footings?
bennno
About 10yrs ago, I built a single storey extension on my last house a 1960's semi. IIRC the extension footings were about 30ins deep. I thought that seemed excessive at the time as the existing house footings were only about 15 ins deep.
sparkythecat said:
bennno said:
King Herald said:
bennno said:
footings should be about 1.2M deep, biggest risk is them caving in if you try to do it in the wet. plus it will be a bugger to mix and the rain may wash the cement out. better to wait for it to stop raining
most get ready mix delivered as its rapid set and consistent....
bennno
1.2m??? It's only a simple breeze block double garage I'm building, not the Taj Mahal
.
1.2x0.6 wide is the current UK standard. We did a 4.5x3m single story extension and the footings took 7m2
how deep have you dug for the footings?
bennno
About 10yrs ago, I built a single storey extension on my last house a 1960's semi. IIRC the extension footings were about 30ins deep. I thought that seemed excessive at the time as the existing house footings were only about 15 ins deep.
and?
did it stay, or fall down?
autonotiv said:
sparkythecat said:
About 10yrs ago, I built a single storey extension on my last house a 1960's semi. IIRC the extension footings were about 30ins deep. I thought that seemed excessive at the time as the existing house footings were only about 15 ins deep.
and?
did it stay, or fall down?
Well the 2 storey house on its puny footings has been up over 40 years now.
The extension's still looking good after 10.
I reckon they'll both still be there when I'm eventually dropped into a 6ft hole
King Herald said:
bennno said:
King Herald said:
Hardest part was carrying all the stuff 25 metres from the front drive to the back garden.
This is a garage you are building? is there not vehicular access ?
bennno
Yes, but funnily enough, access is through the existing garage, of which I knocked the back wall out a couple of months ago.
Them brown doors in the distance go to the garage.
You're going to kill that bush aren't you??
Murderer.
sparkythecat said:
About 10yrs ago, I built a single storey extension on my last house a 1960's semi. IIRC the extension footings were about 30ins deep. I thought that seemed excessive at the time as the existing house footings were only about 15 ins deep.
I guess it all depends on the local soil. If you live in a swamp you're going to need the 3 metre footings mentioned earlier, but if you have clay just below the surface I'd think you have to dig a lot less. Mine was into clay type stuff some 18" down, and it got reeaal hard work digging then.
sparkythecat said:
..............I reckon they'll both still be there when I'm eventually dropped into a 6ft hole
Actually, 3ft deep would be ample, depending on the soil....
ferrisbueller said:
You're going to kill that bush aren't you??
Murderer.
May transplant it, if possible, but that area will be block paved to lead gently down the slop into the garage, as there is about a 12/18 inch gradient. With a drain/soakaway to lose the rain water before it floods the garage.
Don't want to worry you but this "I can do what I want" stuff relates only to planning consent, not to building regulations. If you build without getting the building control officer to sign the works off (at their various stages - foundations being a very critical one!), when you come to sell the house and you can't produce a completion certificate from the local authority you will then have to try to get retrospective approval which may mean digging out to expose the depth of foundations. Don't take my word for it thought, why not just give the local building control department a call; it will clarify your responsibilities. Just because you don't need planning consent this has nothing to do with building control approval. Under new regulations you will also need to have any new electrics installed and certified by a qualified NIC IEE sparks.
Hope it all works out geez!
Hope it all works out geez!
King Herald said:
sparkythecat said:
About 10yrs ago, I built a single storey extension on my last house a 1960's semi. IIRC the extension footings were about 30ins deep. I thought that seemed excessive at the time as the existing house footings were only about 15 ins deep.
I guess it all depends on the local soil. If you live in a swamp you're going to need the 3 metre footings mentioned earlier, but if you have clay just below the surface I'd think you have to dig a lot less. Mine was into clay type stuff some 18" down, and it got reeaal hard work digging then.
The 3 metre footings were in clay, dad had 14 redimix lorry's that day to fill it all and it cost a fortune.
johnniem said:
Don't want to worry you but this "I can do what I want" stuff relates only to planning consent, not to building regulations. If you build without getting the building control officer to sign the works off (at their various stages - foundations being a very critical one!), when you come to sell the house and you can't produce a completion certificate from the local authority you will then have to try to get retrospective approval which may mean digging out to expose the depth of foundations. Don't take my word for it thought, why not just give the local building control department a call; it will clarify your responsibilities. Just because you don't need planning consent this has nothing to do with building control approval. Under new regulations you will also need to have any new electrics installed and certified by a qualified NIC IEE sparks.
Hope it all works out geez!
Hope it all works out geez!
I've done all the checking business, spoke to planning permission people and they said okay, and they told me that it doesn't come under building regulations as it is less than 30sq metres. I have the printed council paperwork here verifying the local regulations, and it states no regs required.
I've requested a letter stating that in writing too, as ten years down the track people will say "who the hell told you you could build that in your garden???"
My bro in law is a licensed electrician, who is able to sign off and certify the electric work, and he lives just two doors away
danielgray said:
King Herald said:
sparkythecat said:
About 10yrs ago, I built a single storey extension on my last house a 1960's semi. IIRC the extension footings were about 30ins deep. I thought that seemed excessive at the time as the existing house footings were only about 15 ins deep.
I guess it all depends on the local soil. If you live in a swamp you're going to need the 3 metre footings mentioned earlier, but if you have clay just below the surface I'd think you have to dig a lot less. Mine was into clay type stuff some 18" down, and it got reeaal hard work digging then.
The 3 metre footings were in clay, dad had 14 redimix lorry's that day to fill it all and it cost a fortune.
hard clay or soft? I can picture this, King herald will be posting a pic of his new garage, then a week later he will be posting a pic of his flat garage! lol
good luck
danielgray said:
King Herald said:
sparkythecat said:
About 10yrs ago, I built a single storey extension on my last house a 1960's semi. IIRC the extension footings were about 30ins deep. I thought that seemed excessive at the time as the existing house footings were only about 15 ins deep.
I guess it all depends on the local soil. If you live in a swamp you're going to need the 3 metre footings mentioned earlier, but if you have clay just below the surface I'd think you have to dig a lot less. Mine was into clay type stuff some 18" down, and it got reeaal hard work digging then.
The 3 metre footings were in clay, dad had 14 redimix lorry's that day to fill it all and it cost a fortune.
But why would you go 3 metres deep??
Humour me here, but I'm pretty sure it was not because you're dad liked digging. There has to be a reason for such monumental footings.
I recently watched them build some two storey flats near my house, and they dug down maybe 5 or 6 feet.
autonotiv said:
hard clay or soft? I can picture this, King herald will be posting a pic of his new garage, then a week later he will be posting a pic of his flat garage! lol
good luck
And if my garage sinks like that, I'll just build another on top and say, yes, I have footings 12' deep y'know.
And a basement
r39s1 said:
Concrete will set under water. A lot of people think that concrete drys and sets but in fact it is a chemical reaction that takes place to set the concrete. The problem will be getting a good finish on top. I had the over site done on an extension and it started raining that evening left tht suface a bit bobbly, didn't matter as it was being given a another layer later.
yeah, I know
couple of years ago I was laying concrete on the bathroom floor with a view to tiling on top...halfway through, phone rang and knowing it to be a hot chick I went to answer it...but quandrary! where to put the bucket of concrete!
I started to run the bath, and dumped the bucket in there - figuring that the water will stop it from solidifying...
...20 minutes later I came back to the bathroom only to find the bucket had tipped over, the water doth overfloweth with great vigour (soaking the walls, floor, every damn thing) and the concrete as escaped the bucket, but only so far as to be half in and half out, and has solidified to the iron bath.
bugger. ...the only solution since the plug was gummed up was to scoop as much out as possible and wait for the rest to evaporate. I then took a 3 foot crowbar and chipped the rest off. had to get the bath re-enamelled = mucho £££
plus when I told this story to the midlands PH group everyone pissed themselves
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