New domestic toilets - small cistern - WTF

New domestic toilets - small cistern - WTF

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LeoZwalf

2,802 posts

231 months

Wednesday 23rd May 2007
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No the house doesn't smell of piss because obviously you keep the toilet clean. Just no real need to flush after every piss.



Someone mentioned the dual flush toilets. They seem to be more common over here now but why we didn't use them earlier is beyond me.



Another brilliant water saving idea I saw in Japan a few years ago which is a bit hard to explain but I'll give it a try.



Instead of the cistern being enclosed, the water is fed in via a tap on top. The cistern lid is basin shaped and the 'plug' hole simply empties into the cistern. So - you flush, and the 'tap' comes on, you wash your hands and the water goes into the cistern.



So simple but I bet it saves on LOADS of water.

LeoZwalf

2,802 posts

231 months

Wednesday 23rd May 2007
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Here's a pic of one:







Don't know if you can link direct to FlickR so here's the address.

http://static.flickr.com/121/293011522_1ddd647708....

LeoZwalf

2,802 posts

231 months

Wednesday 23rd May 2007
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And here's a link to a little article about it:



http://makinglifeeasy.org/2006/11/14/water-efficie...

nerf

991 posts

232 months

Wednesday 23rd May 2007
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LeoZwalf said:
JagLover said:
But when you are going for a piss you will use less water.
In our house, when we piss we don't bother flushing.
me neither, i just p*ss in the sink....

King Herald

23,501 posts

217 months

Wednesday 23rd May 2007
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LeoZwalf said:
JagLover said:
But when you are going for a piss you will use less water.
In our house, when we piss we don't bother flushing.
So when you go for a dump, and get a little 'splashback', you could get some gonorrea or syph infected pee sploshed all over your package eek (assuming someone in the house was suitably poxed up to start with)



'I caught it off a toilet seat' now takes on a new meaning.

ashes

628 posts

255 months

Wednesday 23rd May 2007
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OK if I want to save water - I will buy a small loo.



But what if I don't want to? I pay for the water I use thanks - I want to choose how I flush!



Or is that too much to ask?



All this business of saving things is just another way to interfere and control us

Andy Zarse

10,868 posts

248 months

Wednesday 23rd May 2007
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Parrot of Doom said:
The answer is to get a high wall mounted cistern, with a 5 foot long pipe down to the bowl, and a pull chain smile



Thats what I have, its like Niagra falls when I pull the chain smile
Correct. I too have a proper old fashioned "sit up and beg" from Shanks & Co. It has a chain-flushed, high mounted, 3 gallon, cast iron cystern bolted firmly to the wall. I defy anything a ringpiece can throw at it to never need two flushes. It laughs in the face of curry, kebabs, fry ups, and people who say things like "I must have had a dirty pint last night". It eats "foot long monsters" for breakfast. And it also has the benefit of making one sit up straight thereby allowing a longer period for reading and reflection before the blood cuts off to your legs.



These modern loos are an absolute disgrace. You sit too low down for a start and consequently you're positioned too far back on the seat. The result is that upon making egress from your "gentlemen's passage", your turd/diarrhoea (delete as diet and drinking habits dictate) tends to smear itself down that back of the pan. This is fine if you are German, but for the rest of us, one is thus forced to give the porcelain a good toilet brushing if one is to avoid castigation from the missus/vicar. The force of the flush is generally woeful, many's the time I've had to enlist the aid of a length of two-be-one to chop up a log that a weak flush can't deal with. Indeed in an hotel I once had to call to call Room Service to ask for someone to come and "mash it up".



I'll stick with my "Thunderer" thanks.



Edited by Andy Zarse on Wednesday 23 May 14:32


anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 23rd May 2007
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Andy Zarse said:
These modern loos are an absolute disgrace. You sit too low down for a start and consequently you're positioned too far back on the seat. The result is that upon making egress from your "gentlemen's passage", your turd/diarrhoea (delete as diet and drinking habits dictate) tends to smear itself down that back of the pan. This is fine if you are German, but for the rest of us...
rofl

Pigeon

18,535 posts

247 months

Wednesday 23rd May 2007
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LeoZwalf said:
No the house doesn't smell of piss because obviously you keep the toilet clean. Just no real need to flush after every piss.
Presumably you have a force-fed face mask in your bathroom, then, so you don't gag on the foul stench that arises from the bog in an almost tangible solid cloud when you stir up the stale festering puddle of your previous offerings. Or are you just really good at holding your breath?



I have a mate who is obsessively, surgically clean about almost everything apart from flushing after having a piss. When I need a piss at his house I have to flush the bog before I perform in order to hold on to my breakfast.



Get the same problem visiting my parents... my mum never flushes the bog at night... and stale women's piss smells even worse than men's. What makes it even stranger is that not only is my mum even more obsessive about cleanliness than the abovementioned mate but complains vocally about skanky public toilets, yet seems to think nothing of deliberately leaving her own toilet in an even viler state.



thinfourth2

32,414 posts

205 months

Wednesday 23rd May 2007
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LeoZwalf said:
Here's a pic of one:







Don't know if you can link direct to FlickR so here's the address.

http://static.flickr.com/121/293011522_1ddd647708....
Brilliantly simple

beanbag

7,346 posts

242 months

Wednesday 23rd May 2007
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puffpuff said:
If it's brown, flush it down.

If it's yellow, let it mellow.
That is pretty sick. I think people who don't flush toilets are revolting and if I catch somebody doing that, I voice my opinion out loud in front of everyone to embarrass them so they don't repeat the same thing again.



There is simply no excuse for not flushing.

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 23rd May 2007
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Just realised that these smaller cisterns will make it harder to win when you have a peeing race against the flushfrown



come on, every bloke has done it

King Herald

23,501 posts

217 months

Wednesday 23rd May 2007
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Andy Zarse said:
I defy anything a ringpiece can throw at it to never need two flushes. It laughs in the face of curry, kebabs, fry ups, and people who say things like "I must have had a dirty pint last night". It eats "foot long monsters" for breakfast. And it also has the benefit of making one sit up straight thereby allowing a longer period for reading and reflection before the blood cuts off to your legs.



These modern loos are an absolute disgrace. You sit too low down for a start and consequently you're positioned too far back on the seat. The result is that upon making egress from your "gentlemen's passage", your turd/diarrhoea (delete as diet and drinking habits dictate) tends to smear itself down that back of the pan. This is fine if you are German, but for the rest of us, one is thus forced to give the porcelain a good toilet brushing if one is to avoid castigation from the missus/vicar. The force of the flush is generally woeful, many's the time I've had to enlist the aid of a length of two-be-one to chop up a log that a weak flush can't deal with. Indeed in an hotel I once had to call to call Room Service to ask for someone to come and "mash it up".
roflroflrofl



Classic, absolute classic PH stuff hehe



Now I know why I spend eight hours a day reading PH: just waiting for prose such as this to pass across my monitor on occasion hehe

LeoZwalf

2,802 posts

231 months

Wednesday 23rd May 2007
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Pigeon said:
LeoZwalf said:
No the house doesn't smell of piss because obviously you keep the toilet clean. Just no real need to flush after every piss.
Presumably you have a force-fed face mask in your bathroom, then, so you don't gag on the foul stench that arises from the bog in an almost tangible solid cloud when you stir up the stale festering puddle of your previous offerings. Or are you just really good at holding your breath?
Seriously, it doesn't smell.



We dont flush at night either, it's noisy.

fatboy b

Original Poster:

9,500 posts

217 months

Wednesday 23rd May 2007
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Andy Zarse said:
I defy anything a ringpiece can throw at it to never need two flushes. It laughs in the face of curry, kebabs, fry ups, and people who say things like "I must have had a dirty pint last night". It eats "foot long monsters" for breakfast. And it also has the benefit of making one sit up straight thereby allowing a longer period for reading and reflection before the blood cuts off to your legs.



These modern loos are an absolute disgrace. You sit too low down for a start and consequently you're positioned too far back on the seat. The result is that upon making egress from your "gentlemen's passage", your turd/diarrhoea (delete as diet and drinking habits dictate) tends to smear itself down that back of the pan. This is fine if you are German, but for the rest of us, one is thus forced to give the porcelain a good toilet brushing if one is to avoid castigation from the missus/vicar. The force of the flush is generally woeful, many's the time I've had to enlist the aid of a length of two-be-one to chop up a log that a weak flush can't deal with. Indeed in an hotel I once had to call to call Room Service to ask for someone to come and "mash it up".



I'll stick with my "Thunderer" thanks.
OK, OK I'm jealous. My flush barely smooths the surface of a turd after a night on the Abbot Ale!

Sciroccology

29,908 posts

231 months

Wednesday 23rd May 2007
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nerf said:
LeoZwalf said:
JagLover said:
But when you are going for a piss you will use less water.
In our house, when we piss we don't bother flushing.
me neither, i just p*ss in the sink....
That is absolutely disgusting









and it's exactly what I do. It's a hang-over from my days in the RAF, when my room was half a mile from the toilets, but my room had a sink in it. Go figure.

Flat in Fifth

44,153 posts

252 months

Wednesday 23rd May 2007
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King Herald said:
Andy Zarse said:
I defy anything a ringpiece can throw at it to never need two flushes. It laughs in the face of curry, kebabs, fry ups, and people who say things like "I must have had a dirty pint last night". It eats "foot long monsters" for breakfast. And it also has the benefit of making one sit up straight thereby allowing a longer period for reading and reflection before the blood cuts off to your legs.

These modern loos are an absolute disgrace. You sit too low down for a start and consequently you're positioned too far back on the seat. The result is that upon making egress from your "gentlemen's passage", your turd/diarrhoea (delete as diet and drinking habits dictate) tends to smear itself down that back of the pan. This is fine if you are German, but for the rest of us, one is thus forced to give the porcelain a good toilet brushing if one is to avoid castigation from the missus/vicar. The force of the flush is generally woeful, many's the time I've had to enlist the aid of a length of two-be-one to chop up a log that a weak flush can't deal with. Indeed in an hotel I once had to call to call Room Service to ask for someone to come and "mash it up".
roflroflrofl

Classic, absolute classic PH stuff hehe

Now I know why I spend eight hours a day reading PH: just waiting for prose such as this to pass across my monitor on occasion hehe
Isn't it just great! Whilst reading that part of you is going "Toooooo much detail eeeeuuuuccchhhhhh!"

Whilst another part of you is nodding like crazy in agreement and going "Yeah, and another thing....."

I'll just mention, briefly, the horrors of dealing with a manual pumped sea toilet suffering the infliction of a sea monster sized log...... No, I won't, too soon after my lunch. In fact a week from now will be too soon.

Pigeon

18,535 posts

247 months

Wednesday 23rd May 2007
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Flat in Fifth said:
I'll just mention, briefly, the horrors of dealing with a manual pumped sea toilet suffering the infliction of a sea monster sized log...... No, I won't, too soon after my lunch. In fact a week from now will be too soon.
It's already too late for those of us who know what you're talking about hehe



Problem can be exacerbated when you know the only toilet available is a manual pumped sea toilet and the psychosomatic effect on your intestines means you go a week without wanting a shit...



Lot to be said for bucket and chuck it really...

Hammerwerfer

3,234 posts

241 months

Wednesday 23rd May 2007
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The Germans have been using th edual flush toilets or at least ones where you can interrupt the flow, for ages. It makes sense to just stop the flow after the last log disappears.



Doesn't the standard British "Crapper" design rely on a siphon to get the water flowing from the cistern to the toilet?



Unless someone has an illness or infection, pee is pretty much sterile. A reason that it was used to disinfect wounds.

King Herald

23,501 posts

217 months

Wednesday 23rd May 2007
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Flat in Fifth said:
King Herald said:
Andy Zarse said:
I defy anything a ringpiece can throw at it to never need two flushes. It laughs in the face of curry, kebabs, fry ups, and people who say things like "I must have had a dirty pint last night". It eats "foot long monsters" for breakfast. And it also has the benefit of making one sit up straight thereby allowing a longer period for reading and reflection before the blood cuts off to your legs.

These modern loos are an absolute disgrace. You sit too low down for a start and consequently you're positioned too far back on the seat. The result is that upon making egress from your "gentlemen's passage", your turd/diarrhoea (delete as diet and drinking habits dictate) tends to smear itself down that back of the pan. This is fine if you are German, but for the rest of us, one is thus forced to give the porcelain a good toilet brushing if one is to avoid castigation from the missus/vicar. The force of the flush is generally woeful, many's the time I've had to enlist the aid of a length of two-be-one to chop up a log that a weak flush can't deal with. Indeed in an hotel I once had to call to call Room Service to ask for someone to come and "mash it up".
roflroflrofl

Classic, absolute classic PH stuff hehe

Now I know why I spend eight hours a day reading PH: just waiting for prose such as this to pass across my monitor on occasion hehe
Isn't it just great! Whilst reading that part of you is going "Toooooo much detail eeeeuuuuccchhhhhh!"

Whilst another part of you is nodding like crazy in agreement and going "Yeah, and another thing....."

I'll just mention, briefly, the horrors of dealing with a manual pumped sea toilet suffering the infliction of a sea monster sized log...... No, I won't, too soon after my lunch. In fact a week from now will be too soon.
Come on, tell the truth, did you ever reach in and break one up with your hand, to save leaving it for someone else to sort out? yuck





I used to work in a yacht marina in Singapore, and the only thing worse than sorting out your own blocked pooey hand pump toilet....... is sorting out someone elses.



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