How to claim squatters rights.

[ewenm]

ExPat2B said:

All these people going oh its not yours, whine whine whine.

If you were in my shoes you would be thinking the same thing. You would have the same options.

Give me another option that does not involve danger to me and my family, or financial loss and I will take it.

Move house.

[T_Pot]

ExPat2B said:

All these people going oh its not yours, whine whine whine.

If you were in my shoes you would be thinking the same thing. You would have the same options.

Give me another option that does not involve danger to me and my family, or financial loss and I will take it.

I can tell you hand on heart, i would not be thinking like you, I sir, have Morales.

You have no danger or cost imminent to you and yours, put the energy your willing to put into stealing this house into finding its owner or pushing the local authorities to take charge of the matter.

You never know, if you find the owner, he may sell it to you at a good price, and you all win.

[rich1231]

ExPat2B said:

All these people going oh its not yours, whine whine whine.

If you were in my shoes you would be thinking the same thing. You would have the same options.

Give me another option that does not involve danger to me and my family, or financial loss and I will take it.

Danger to you and your family?

Are you having a laugh?

What danger does it really represent?

You sir, are a terminal wit

[onomatopoeia]

ExPat2B said:

1. I do nothing. I leave the house to become derelict, the council make token effort of boarding windows up. The house rots, pulling down the the value of my property all the time, and then gets set on fire/collapses.

The owner of a house should be able to keep it in whatever condition they please, provided it puts no-one else in immediate physical danger.

[JulianHJ]

ExPat2B said:

All these people going oh its not yours, whine whine whine.

If you were in my shoes you would be thinking the same thing. You would have the same options.

Give me another option that does not involve danger to me and my family, or financial loss and I will take it.

Wind your neck in. There's an unoccupied house the next but one down from me (terraced). I've not stuck up Daily Mail-esque whines about squatters, smackheads and raging infernos blighting the neighbourhood.

You're on to a loser posting that sort of drivel on PH.

[ExPat2B]

I just did a search of local news and fire department sites.

7 incidents of fires involving derelict houses in the past 2 months. 3 of those with drugs connections. 2 deaths.

3 other fires with no derelict connections. 1 barn with kid and a lighter, a chimmeny fire at a pub and a block of flats.

Great, no danger to me or my family then if I let it rot.

Seriously considering the move option - its 700 quid solicitors fees + van at 1000 quid + + + + + + + + so how you can say no financial loss is beyond me, have you ever moved house ?

Edited by ExPat2B on Friday 4th January 16:22

[Parrot of Doom]

ewenm said:

Parrot of Doom said:

Well I know that if a house next to me was empty and turning into a shithole, I'd be concerned, especially if the owner didn't give a shit.

An empty rotting boarded up house next door can significantly devalue both your property, and your area, and can also have consequences for the structural integrity of your own home. So to the OP, good luck on ya.

So what would YOU do about it? Try to claim it as your own or doorstep the relevant authority until it was sorted or something else?

The latter, but not all councils are created equal. There are only 2-3 properties within a mile or so of my house I can think of that are boarded up, and they're good properties in nice areas. They've been that way for years so obviously my council doesn't really give a shit. If I lived next to one of them and the council weren't going to do anything, I'd start thinking along the same lines as the OP.

You might stand on principles but if the house next to you was rotting away for 5 years and nobody was doing anything about it, what would you do? Move away?

[Plotloss]

Actually this has given me an idea.

Windsor Castle is just around the corner.

Thats unoccupied by its owner for months on end.

I should annexe it, as its obviously going to kill my daughter, what with its guns, ramparts and MI5 operatives.

[JagLover]

The problem with involving the council is that they now have the right to seize vacant properties after they have been vacant for 6 months and rent them out as social housing.

A case of leaping from the frying pan into the fire.

I can understand the OP's question rubbing people up the wrong way. But a vacant property next door is a serious problem and could happen for a number of reasons (typically death of the owner)

[srebbe64]

Plotloss said:

Actually this has given me an idea.

Windsor Castle is just around the corner.

Thats unoccupied by its owner for months on end.

I should annexe it, as its obviously going to kill my daughter, what with its guns, ramparts and MI5 operatives.

I wonder if that's why Windsor Castle caught fire. That seems to be one of the O/Ps major concerns.

[ExPat2B]

http://hantsfire.gov.uk/stories.htm?newsid=32407

Yea, the counicl is *well* on top of this problem.



fireproof my arse.

[Plotloss]

srebbe64 said:

Plotloss said:

Actually this has given me an idea.

Windsor Castle is just around the corner.

Thats unoccupied by its owner for months on end.

I should annexe it, as its obviously going to kill my daughter, what with its guns, ramparts and MI5 operatives.

I wonder if that's why Windsor Castle caught fire. That seems to be one of the O/Ps major concerns.

Not really, it caught fire because someone was in it.

[Parrot of Doom]

mickken said:

To be fair, i'd ignore it, and get on with my life.

It would present no danger at all.

Unless you live in a sink estate, I don't believe that for a second.

[T_Pot]

If your really worried about a fire, you should not have broken in and fixed the leak, the damp would helped make it harder to ignite.


loving the way your trying to justify yourself too, if you were truly concerned about your family and not just greedy then instead of pissing about here, you would be chasing council, land registry asking fire brigade to check for risk assessment to the surrounding homes.

Your only concern is what you can get form t.

go and do things through the correct channels

[T_Pot]

mickken said:

Parrot of Doom said:

mickken said:

To be fair, i'd ignore it, and get on with my life.

It would present no danger at all.

Unless you live in a sink estate, I don't believe that for a second.

It's not my concern. It's no danger (although the OP would have us believe that the empty house next to him kidnapped little Maddie, exterminated 7 million Jews, tried to blow up parliament, invaded Kuwait, and blew up the Discovey Space Shuttle). I realy would not bother me, as there is no danger.

If at anytime I felt threatened by this highly dangerous killing machine they call next door, I'd call the council, and keep calling them untill it got sorted. The OP doesn't want to do that because he wants it for himself, like a low life pikey squatter.

End rant.

totally agree with you, but i think the maddie ref was a bit much mate personally but everything else spot on

[T_Pot]

The thing that gives your intentions away all through this is the title of it

how to "claim" squatters rights..

why not, how do i safeguard my family

how do i deal with this

how can i stop the dangers.....

nope, none of them came into your thoughts until people outted you did they ? now, your back tracking and picked up on it.

Edited by T_Pot on Friday 4th January 16:46

[bigTee]

Is this guy still bleating on?

For s sake. It's not your ing house. Only been empty for a ing year and is in no way a ing danger or a ing threat to you.

Shit the bed.

Somebody owns the house. There is a reason it’s empty. Maybe he has moved in with new bird and just sitting on his house until he has more equity. Maybe he is taking a year out and gone travelling. Whatever the reason – it’s not your ing house to decide what happens to it.

When it does get a bit scabby, call the ing council. If they do all – call them again, and again, and again.

Squatting is illegal and immoral.

I’m looking at buying some shitty terraced houses in Stoke. And do you know what I’ll do with them? all for a year or two. And when I get back to them I find one of you hairy worms squatting in one of them

[ExPat2B]

I know how to deal with it and protect against the dangers - thats easy.

I look after it.

No-one else, including the council is going to do anything about it, no matter if I badger, doorstep or harrass them.

What really gives you away as idiots, is the comment above about "I would ignore it as it poses no danger " which is complete rubbish which ever way you might spin it.

[lady topaz]

The OP has made his intentions clear and imo made very little effort to trace the owners. Yes an empty property can cause big problems to an adjacent neighbour as some have mentioned. My in-laws died and their house was vacant for months whilst probate was going through and then whilst it was up for sale. In spite of my husband tending the garden and checking on it regularly a pipe burst during a cold spell and water damaged both the in laws and the adjacent house. Lucky insurance was kept up.
If he was really keen on action, a few calls, smell gas, seen rats, heard water would soon get authorities interested. Check with post office for mail redirection, there is loads he cold try. Not sure from the original post if he actually knows the owner, as he said he tried tracing through Land Registry but no reply. Was this from LR or traced owner?
Sure as hell he has no right to it though.

[groucho]

ewenm said:

wolves_wanderer said:

If I was you I would make every effort to try and trace the owners possible. If they could not be found I would proceed exactly as you suggest by looking after the house. If nobody turns up after 10 years then unfortunately they will have to pay the idiot tax, you could take your expenses and give the rest away to charity if you genuinely are not looking to profit. (although quite who would leave a house empty and uncared for for 10 years I don't know.)

Better that than have a derelict house in the street attracting all sorts (and looking shit.)

People are stating "10 years". Anyone got a link to the legislation that allows someone to claim a derelict building after 10 years?

Yeah, I find that hard to believe.