How to claim squatters rights.

How to claim squatters rights.

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bigTee

5,546 posts

221 months

Friday 4th January 2008
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ExPat2B said:
Morally, your right to swing your fist ends at my nose.

It is terraced housing, if it catches fire, it will spread to mine, If my house burns down with me, someone I love, and all my posessions inside, I would consider that to have hit my nose.
Then speak to the council. Don't nick his house.

JonRB

74,560 posts

272 months

Friday 4th January 2008
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Festisio said:
Squatters shouldn't have any god damn rights.
I agree. In my opinion neither squatters nor burglars should have any rights whatsoever - both are trespassing in someone else's property and should be able to be shot on sight by the owner.

PULL!

Edited by JonRB on Friday 4th January 14:10

Broken Hero

1,195 posts

197 months

Friday 4th January 2008
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ExPat2B said:
It has been that way for a year, and I did a little bit of work to stop it becoming derelict ( fixed broken window that was leaking )
The house has only been empty for a year so i doubt it is anywhere near derelict so that excuse is pretty poor IMO.

ExPat2B

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Friday 4th January 2008
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ewenm

28,506 posts

245 months

Friday 4th January 2008
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ExPat2B said:
Council notified months ago action taken - Zero.
Have you chased them?

ExPat2B

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Friday 4th January 2008
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Oh yes I have chased them. Given their massive lack of competence in every other sphere I don't see why people have any faith in them actually doing anything.

okgo

38,038 posts

198 months

Friday 4th January 2008
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mickken said:
ExPat2B said:
Council notified months ago action taken - Zero.

There seem to be a lot of you that hate squatters.

I doubt you would want squatters moving in next to you either. If I don't act, that is exactly what is going to happen.



anonymous said:
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Squatters = Free loading, piss taking scum. So yes, I guess there will be a lot ot people who despise them/possibly you!
HE DOESNT WANT TO SQAUT IN IT FFS

Im sure this guy isnt a piss ridden crack head that wants a floor to sleep on, he wants to stop it going like that..

Edited by okgo on Friday 4th January 14:24

Andy OH

1,906 posts

250 months

Friday 4th January 2008
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mickken said:
ExPat2B said:
I know of an empty house nearby, I have tried to contact the owner through the land registry to buy it with no response.

It has been that way for a year, and I did a little bit of work to stop it becoming derelict ( fixed broken window that was leaking )

What do I have to do to start the claim for squatters rights ?
Scum like you shouldn't be able to use computers. Get a job and buy a house like most other people you free loading wit.
I think you misread th OP's quotes, he lives next door to this empty property and has made steps to try to buy it so he must have a job, so why is he a freeloading whatever??? If I were in his shoes I would have taken the same steps as he has done but also persevered with the council to try to avoid the house becoming derelict.......put yourself in his shoes would you want scum and druggies squatting next door to you....I think not......read the thread before you shout your big mouth off FFS



Edited by Andy OH on Friday 4th January 14:26

tigger1

8,402 posts

221 months

Friday 4th January 2008
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T_Pot said:
Gorvid said:
I don't think "trespass" works like that.
Think it does


In law, trespass can be:

1. the criminal act of going into somebody else's land or property without permission of the owner or lessee;
I believe you can even force entry into somebody's property IF you believe that they would like you to do so if they were able to consent. e.g. getting a sleeping person out of a burning house

ExPat2B

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200 months

Friday 4th January 2008
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Obviously I would like the owner to come back/sell because then the value of my house would rise.

If he doesn't though.............why should I not be the one to benefit, especially I am am the one putting the work in ?



ewenm

28,506 posts

245 months

Friday 4th January 2008
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It appears that what the OP is after is some form of right to claim the house, not squatters rights at all (as he lives in his own house in the same street).

I fail to see how doing minor maintenance on the place can give the OP the right to the (potential) £100,000s of the value of the place.

Probably nothing the council can do until it becomes derelict...

ExPat2B

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Friday 4th January 2008
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Okay put yourself in my shoes - there are 3 options.

1. I do nothing. I leave the house to become derelict, the council make token effort of boarding windows up. The house rots, pulling down the the value of my property all the time, and then gets set on fire/collapses.

2. I make basic efforts to ensure the house is not derelict, and make no claim or other action. Forever. I will cost me a lot of time and money to do this, would you want to do this in perpituity ?

3. I make basic efforts to ensure the house is not derelict and claim the house after 10 years, at which point I will sell it. Yes to my financial benefit, but if the house has burned/fallen down as per option 1 - would the orignal owner, if he is even out there, be any worse off ? no, he would not have a house in option 1.

Which do you choose ?



Edited by ExPat2B on Friday 4th January 14:45

okgo

38,038 posts

198 months

Friday 4th January 2008
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2 please

ewenm

28,506 posts

245 months

Friday 4th January 2008
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ExPat2B said:
Okay put yourself in my shoes - there are 3 options.

1. I do nothing. I leave the house to become derelict, the council make token effort of boarding windows up. The house rots, pulling down the the value of my property all the time, and then gets set on fire/collapses.

2. I make basic efforts to ensure the house is not derelict, and make no claim or other action. Forever. I will cost me a lot of time and money to do this, would you want to do this in perpituity ?

3. I make basic efforts to ensure the house is not derelict and claim the house after 10 years, at which point I will sell it.

Which do you choose ?
If 3 is legal, then do 3. It's not "squatters rights" though if you're not squatting in it - no idea which law it may fall under. Plus, be prepared to get 9.5 years through this plan, and then the real owner turn up and you've lost your investment.

okgo

38,038 posts

198 months

Friday 4th January 2008
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Also are you going to live ni that house for ten more years?

Rare these days for people to do so

Broken Hero

1,195 posts

197 months

Friday 4th January 2008
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ExPat2B said:
Which do you choose ?



Edited by ExPat2B on Friday 4th January 14:45
Doesnt anyone else live on your street?

bigTee

5,546 posts

221 months

Friday 4th January 2008
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shout It's not your ing house to decide. furious

ExPat2B

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Friday 4th January 2008
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okogo, with option 2, after say 15 years, the house is going to need major work. The roof will need looking at, all the windows will need re-doing, any external woodwook will be rotten, paint will have gone.

An unheated house will get damp and mould and internal woodwoork will start to rot.


You would be looking at putting down 10k just to stop it falling down.

To honest, I am thinking of smartening it up so there is no sign it is vacant, and selling my house before it damages the value.

T_Pot

2,542 posts

197 months

Friday 4th January 2008
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piss myself if the owner decides to move in and becomes the neighbor from hell, maybe then the empty house next door wasnt soo bad then

ExPat2B

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Friday 4th January 2008
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I don't want to make money.

If the owner comes back after 9.5 years, I won't consider it a financial loss as it will have kept the value of my house up in the period, and the Value to me of not living next to scum is priceless.