Why do you want to move to Australia?

[thehawk]

POORCARDEALER said:

Pal is over there, he is a joiner, he can earn better money here (well, he could), he reckons houses around Sydney are much more expensive than in the north of england

Why is that a surprise, did he really think that Sydney was full of waterfront houses for £90K?

[deviant]

Agree with Fiddlemesticks and Tim..

The heat thing is not about being a wuss its about avoiding a serious burn or melanoma...its amazing how many people I know hwo have had to have a cancer removed inc my FIL that had an inch plug of skin taken from his neck and has to spend the next 12 months being regularly checked to see if the cancer spread. It was a matter of days from it being an irritated mole to the doctor saying "do not go back to work, go straight to this address and they will be waiting when you arrive!"

Christmas day 2007 hit 46deg in Perth and I dont think got much below 40 for the 3 week christmas period...it doesnt matter how hard you think you are burn time is down to 2-3 minutes. It can stay in the high 30's for weeks on end thorugh the summer and horribly humid.
You do get used to most heat but even the true locals dont go out when its hot.

The car thing...look at www.carsales.com.au and look at the simply epic choice we get
As a guide $30,000 is a sheet load of money.
Used cars hardly depreciate especially if they are something a bit special.
Interest rates on car finance vary from 8%-15%
The on road costs of a new car are terrifying...on an average new car add $5000 in costs. If the car is valued over $55,000 add 33% luxury car tax + 10% GST (VAT) + Dealer deliver + License + Stamp duty + Compulsory third party insurance.

Housing...very very expensive. You can not compare £ to $ because you will be earning the $ when your here. Average house price in Perth is still around the $450,000 mark...average wage is still around $50,000.

I dont want to be to much of a whinging pom...but think long and hard about the things you hate in the UK. Also think long and hard about the things that make you smile (turn the TV off to do this task) and then begin to really research if Australia (or any other country) can truly remove the things that you hate and can either sustain or replace the things that make you happy with something else of 'equal happiness'.
I didnt put enough thought in to this and although there are times (during the PH meet in Freo ) I think "yep this is pretty darn good" there is a huge list of things I dearly miss about the UK. Its not good to dwell on it to much though

[Ed.]

Rebuker said:

Highway Star said:

Eric Mc said:

DaveL485 said:

Cabada for us.

Because it's not a wrecked country run by muppets that rob every penny they can out of our pockets.

Really?

What to Canadians say?

I know someone who lived there for over 40 years and un-emigrated back to her native Scotland.

Having just spent two weeks in British Columbia, the general public opinion certainly seemed to be that their government, and their politicians of all parties in general, were pretty useless.

Vancouver and the Gulf Islands were lovely though.

There is a far lesser rate of return from people emigrating to Canada than to any other country.

The govt is useless but not malignant.
The weather sucks sometimes but you know where you stand: it WILL be hot when it is meant to be hot, or cold when ought to, and you can back on that. (ontario and quebec at least).

Immigration: There is much less of a sense of being resisted or having to adjust to the locals.
Unfortunately most Australians are under the illusion that they are in Europe, when in fact they are surrounded, and unnaturally settled in, an area full of brown people. Itb is not surprising they panic and get all uppety about immigration.

How fortunate that the Aboriginals were not able to be quite so militant or able to be as intolerant when the white settlers first arrived, who, until the 1970s went out shooting them for sport.

Its just a change of perspective, Canada isn't my country, I can't vote so politics are less of a concern, I think I am more aware and likely to get annoyed with UK politics. The Eastern provinces don't tend to like the Govt because Quebec get the majority of spending for some reason. (French and English don't get along anywhere it seems )
There are pluses and minus to all countries: wages are lower for some jobs, houses are cheaper because there's space to build, eating out is cheaper but grocery stores can be close to UK prices, as is alcohol so effectively double. There's more space and more outdoor activities so less people travel to different countries. Some recent school shootings are a concern but seem to be limited to a few cities. They don't have many speed cameras so the roads are policed by real people but if you take the piss they will impound it. In Ontario Summer is hot and sunny, Winter can be -40c, 5 months of snow, cars rust.

[TadKa]

R4PID said:

I like Fosters.

Ahaha don't come here if you like Fosters. No one drinks that st. You can't really even buy it.
Anyway I could go on about how awesome my country is but I need to get back to work building this big bd fence to keep you pommy bds out. Actually I guess someone needs to pick our fruit.

(For the record I'm a first gen Aussie with english parents. Generally people think I'm English so no hard feelings)

[pauldc259]

I did (in April) and are loving it.

Yes, the TV is 5h!t
Yes, cars are Bl00dy expensive
Yes, houses are overpriced
Yes, aussies are terrible drivers

but the people are friendly, I'm earning more that in the UK, the weather (in Brisveags) is fab, I could go on...

I was lucky, I had a years free trial a while back and after returning to the UK i felt homesick for Aus. I'm glad to be here and are making the best of it.

[groucho]

They say g'day mate.

[deviant]

And you can be called a BLOODY GALLAH!!!

Also you can live in places with amusing names such as Waggawagga.

[suthol]

deviant said:

And you can be called a BLOODY GALLAH!!!

Also you can live in places with amusing names such as Wagga Wagga.

EFA

It's two words boy, we liked the place so much we named it twice

[GilbertGrape]

I think you'll find that alot of Aussies and Kiwis go to the UK because that's where most of our ancestry is.

At a guess, i'd wager that most of them come back.


It's all about the castles

[smack]

TadKa said:

R4PID said:

I like Fosters.

Ahaha don't come here if you like Fosters. No one drinks that st. You can't really even buy it.

Well in Tassie you have some very nice beer! (for Australia)!!

[deviant]

WA has some epic beer from the local micro-brewers! The mass produced stuff is on the whole pretty average.

[suthol]

smack said:

TadKa said:

R4PID said:

I like Fosters.

Ahaha don't come here if you like Fosters. No one drinks that st. You can't really even buy it.

Well in Tassie you have some very nice beer! (for Australia)!!

I think Cascade is still aussie owned or partly, Boags is owned by San Miguel.

Little Creatures in Freo turn out a fair drop as do Feral in the Swan Valley, but my main tipple is Coopers Pale, still owned by the Coopers family, try their Vintage Ale if you are up for a challenge, very nice but a six pack can be a challenge if not well prepared.

[deviant]

Mad Monk in Freo is one of my favourites! Seemed to go down quite well during the meet up to!

[big_rob_sydney]

suthol said:

deviant said:

And you can be called a BLOODY GALLAH!!!

Also you can live in places with amusing names such as Wagga Wagga.

EFA

It's two words boy, we liked the place so much we named it twice

I've never understood why Wagga Wagga can be called just Wagga, whereas Woy Woy cant be called Woy...?

BTW, I went to Charles Sturt Uni at Wagga, and have lived there on and off for maybe 5 years. Lots of fun. Especially driving the back road to Gundagai. No traffic, no police, one bend after another, a good hour or so of thrashing.

I really miss those days.

[tim the pool man]

deviant said:

WA has some epic beer from the local micro-brewers! The mass produced stuff is on the whole pretty average.

That's for sure I drink a couple of Little Creatures' brews, and whatever it was I was drinking at the Mad Monk was bloody good too

[POORCARDEALER]

thehawk said:

POORCARDEALER said:

Pal is over there, he is a joiner, he can earn better money here (well, he could), he reckons houses around Sydney are much more expensive than in the north of england

Why is that a surprise, did he really think that Sydney was full of waterfront houses for £90K?

Nope, but he didnt think a 4 bedroom house in Sydney would be 50% more expensive than one in Leeds.

[big_rob_sydney]

POORCARDEALER said:

thehawk said:

POORCARDEALER said:

Pal is over there, he is a joiner, he can earn better money here (well, he could), he reckons houses around Sydney are much more expensive than in the north of england

Why is that a surprise, did he really think that Sydney was full of waterfront houses for £90K?

Nope, but he didnt think a 4 bedroom house in Sydney would be 50% more expensive than one in Leeds.

Is he for real? Does he think Leeds is on a par with Sydney???

Please report to drug testing.

[TadKa]

suthol said:

smack said:

TadKa said:

R4PID said:

I like Fosters.

Ahaha don't come here if you like Fosters. No one drinks that st. You can't really even buy it.

Well in Tassie you have some very nice beer! (for Australia)!!

I think Cascade is still aussie owned or partly, Boags is owned by San Miguel.

Little Creatures in Freo turn out a fair drop as do Feral in the Swan Valley, but my main tipple is Coopers Pale, still owned by the Coopers family, try their Vintage Ale if you are up for a challenge, very nice but a six pack can be a challenge if not well prepared.

I think Cascade is probably foreign owned too. Lion Nathan perhaps?
I too love the little creatures drops and Coopers. I'd also go Boags over Cascade (I break the Hobart/Launceston traditions) Probably very hard to find but we have a microbrewery called Moo Brew thats part of the Moorilla Winery. They do a cracking Pilsner.

[smack]

TadKa said:

suthol said:

smack said:

TadKa said:

R4PID said:

I like Fosters.

Ahaha don't come here if you like Fosters. No one drinks that st. You can't really even buy it.

Well in Tassie you have some very nice beer! (for Australia)!!

I think Cascade is still aussie owned or partly, Boags is owned by San Miguel.

Little Creatures in Freo turn out a fair drop as do Feral in the Swan Valley, but my main tipple is Coopers Pale, still owned by the Coopers family, try their Vintage Ale if you are up for a challenge, very nice but a six pack can be a challenge if not well prepared.

I think Cascade is probably foreign owned too. Lion Nathan perhaps?
I too love the little creatures drops and Coopers. I'd also go Boags over Cascade (I break the Hobart/Launceston traditions) Probably very hard to find but we have a microbrewery called Moo Brew thats part of the Moorilla Winery. They do a cracking Pilsner.

I did see that a few people have started making ales (Epicure/The Age) but charging a mint for it....

[deviant]

I'm thirsty..

I do miss the real ale in the UK...but the brewers here do a few good ales and the bottle shops are beginning to get the English ales in. I have found that the more micro-brewers I find the less I miss English beer though.

Some of the Pilsners and Indian pale ales are just sublime and are almost not like beer in the way they are so easy to drink.