A disillusioned European :-(

A disillusioned European :-(

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Russwhitehouse

962 posts

131 months

Saturday 16th July 2016
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Dr Jekyll said:
According to some figures I saw last year, there are roughly the same number of French expats in the UK as Brits in France. The difference is that while many of the Brits in France are retired or semi retired, staying in France because it's a good place to sit in the sun and drink wine. The bulk of the French in the UK are here to work, because it's a good place to build a business or hopefully even make a fortune.

We are clearly doing something right.
WERE doing something right. Past tense. A non EU trader working in the city has to pay £100,000 per year for the license to do so. EU citizens pay nothing. Watch the exodus to Paris and its rise to be the new world and European financial centre instead of London.
I agree with you on most of your points Driller, but you are in Paris, a place renowned even amongst the French for rudeness and dogst.

battered

4,088 posts

147 months

Saturday 16th July 2016
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Grubby outer bit of a European capital city is a bit of a dump shocker.

smifffymoto

4,554 posts

205 months

Saturday 16th July 2016
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Russwhitehouse said:
Dr Jekyll said:
According to some figures I saw last year, there are roughly the same number of French expats in the UK as Brits in France. The difference is that while many of the Brits in France are retired or semi retired, staying in France because it's a good place to sit in the sun and drink wine. The bulk of the French in the UK are here to work, because it's a good place to build a business or hopefully even make a fortune.

We are clearly doing something right.
WERE doing something right. Past tense. A non EU trader working in the city has to pay £100,000 per year for the license to do so. EU citizens pay nothing. Watch the exodus to Paris and its rise to be the new world and European financial centre instead of London.
I agree with you on most of your points Driller, but you are in Paris, a place renowned even amongst the French for rudeness and dogst.
Until France reforms it's employment laws it will gain very little from the UK leaving the EU.You only have to witness the strikes this June to see that isn't happening anytime soon.Stikes in June happen every year but hey ho!

Fatt McMissile

330 posts

133 months

Monday 18th July 2016
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Driller said:
What part of the UK are you comparing with FMM?
The area I live in now in South Brittany 10KM from the coast with my home in North Devon 10 miles from the coast. Similar places, more or less, but it's clear that this area is developing well through commercial and infrastructure investment and the UK area is declining. I don't think you can fairly compare Paris suburbs with Bath, fairer to compare it with the area around the North Circular road.

I passed close to your place on Saturday and Sunday en route to the David Gilmour concert at Chantilly and I certainly think that Paris needs an M25, all motorways leading onto the Périphérique is insane, but I didn't experience any aggressive or inconsiderate driving although I'm sure its a different place on weekdays...do a few trackdays with Germans on the circuit and you'll be better prepared in future smile

However my eagle eyed son spotted this establishment in Chantill or Senlis masquerading as a bakery:



So there's always a silver lining!
Steve


Driller

8,310 posts

278 months

Monday 18th July 2016
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rofl
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mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

255 months

Wednesday 20th July 2016
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Terryg4 said:
mybrainhurts said:
Oh lord, giveth me an wall, upon which I might bangeth mine head, until it doth jolly well hurt...hehe

PS...I'll give the EU ten years until it implodes.
What exactly in Europe will implode? We are Europe?
You're making the common mistake of confusing the peoples and countries of the continent of Europe and the corrupt institutions of the EU.

It seems to have escaped the attention of millions of people that these are entirely different things.

Terryg4

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233 posts

98 months

Wednesday 20th July 2016
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It's the same thing, they are just EU civil servants managing all that money that is given back to farmers, Cornwall and Wales and the like.

In any case they will fall into insignificance to the £5000 per day lawyers the Government are employing to sort out the extraction of the 3% of EU law. And yes there will be hundreds of them!

Good luck, you have really taken your country back!
By the way , if the UK join the EEA then we will have no say on the laws we will have to abide by, yes it's really taking control NOT!

rb5er

11,657 posts

172 months

Wednesday 20th July 2016
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If you don't even live in the UK, what is your "view" worth? Nothing at all.

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

255 months

Wednesday 20th July 2016
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Terryg4 said:
It's the same thing, they are just EU civil servants managing all that money that is given back to farmers, Cornwall and Wales and the like.
Is that all it is? Well, hell, I'll give myself a bloody good thrashing for not understanding that.

Fatt McMissile

330 posts

133 months

Wednesday 20th July 2016
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mybrainhurts said:
Terryg4 said:
It's the same thing, they are just EU civil servants managing all that money that is given back to farmers, Cornwall and Wales and the like.
Is that all it is? Well, hell, I'll give myself a bloody good thrashing for not understanding that.
and the EU employs 33000 people to do these and all tasks.
HMRC alone employs 74,430.

Steve

Fatt McMissile

330 posts

133 months

Wednesday 20th July 2016
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rb5er said:
If you don't even live in the UK, what is your "view" worth? Nothing at all.
Angela Merkel doesn't live in the UK, but she or her successor has views on brexit that will matter more than yours and many millions, yes millions, like you (Angela Merkel is the chancellor of Germany, that's like a prime minister of the big country the other side of France)
OK, France is the country the other side of the English Channel.
OK a prime minister is a stern person in a dress.
The English Channel........forget it.
smile
Steve

Fatt McMissile

330 posts

133 months

Wednesday 20th July 2016
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mybrainhurts said:
Is that all it is? Well, hell, I'll give myself a bloody good thrashing for not understanding that.
I'll bet you will, I'll bet you will.....;)

Stewie not Steve

Terryg4

Original Poster:

233 posts

98 months

Wednesday 20th July 2016
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It's funny, facts from us, abuse from the Brexiters, sounds very familiar!

Great article here from Nick Clegg that all should read no matter what your views.
https://inews.co.uk/opinion/comment/nick-clegg-bre...

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

255 months

Wednesday 20th July 2016
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Terryg4 said:
It's funny, facts from us,
Pardon me, but ---------------> rofl


Terryg4 said:
abuse from the Brexiters
You really need to get a handle on that persecution complex...hehe

Terryg4

Original Poster:

233 posts

98 months

Wednesday 20th July 2016
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mybrainhurts said:
You really need to get a handle on that persecution complex...hehe
Just upset at people ruining the country I loved. :-(

Anyway so apart from "leave" how do you think they should "leave"?
Let's see some detail!

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

255 months

Wednesday 20th July 2016
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Terryg4 said:
Just upset at people ruining the country I loved. :-(
The country you loved so much that you turned your back on it to live in another country?

The country you loved was ruined by the European Union. The country you loved is now free to trade with the rest of the world. In time, you will learn to love the country you loved once more.

Courage, mon brave, all will be well and you can come back to the country you loved, where you can stand in wonder and witness the inevitable death throes of the European Union's economy from a safe place.

smile

Fatt McMissile

330 posts

133 months

Wednesday 20th July 2016
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mybrainhurts said:
The country you loved so much that you turned your back on it to live in another country?

The country you loved was ruined by the European Union. The country you loved is now free to trade with the rest of the world. In time, you will learn to love the country you loved once more.

Courage, mon brave, all will be well and you can come back to the country you loved, where you can stand in wonder and witness the inevitable death throes of the European Union's economy from a safe place.

smile
Never turned our backs.
Still love the UK.
Not going to happen for ages if at all.

Simples.

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

255 months

Wednesday 20th July 2016
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Fatt McMissile said:
Still love the UK
You've never been to Scunthorpe, have you..? hehe

Fatt McMissile

330 posts

133 months

Wednesday 20th July 2016
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mybrainhurts said:
Fatt McMissile said:
Still love the UK
You've never been to Scunthorpe, have you..? hehe
smile bugger off and go to bed. I'll be up in a minute.

Edited by Fatt McMissile on Wednesday 20th July 23:37

paulwirral

3,133 posts

135 months

Wednesday 20th July 2016
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mybrainhurts said:
Fatt McMissile said:
Still love the UK
You've never been to Scunthorpe, have you..? hehe
Wow , a bit off topic , or rather a lot off it , I used to race stock cars around Shorpe " raceway " bumpiest oval track in England in its day .