A disillusioned European :-(
Discussion
I'm not happy with the result but I have to accept it. Accepting it would be a lot easier if I didn't feel the people of the UK had been led to this decision by being told a catalogue of what could easily be and to me what looks like lies (don't ask me to substantiate, I really can't be bothered thinking about it any more). It's the UK's "badly done to" populations attitude that I find the worst.
We've lived in France for 5 years, we won't be returning to the UK, anywhere but.
We've lived in France for 5 years, we won't be returning to the UK, anywhere but.
We were pretty set on returning to Blighty once youngest son has flown the nest next year or year after. In the light of the Brexit vote that will no longer be happening.
A couple of snippets that may be of interest to all those misguided anti Europe patriots out there.
More money was wiped off the board overnight due to Brexit than Britain has paid into the EU in the last fifteen years.
The pension fund i have worked hard to build up all my working life had ten percent of its value removed in one go overnight.
My eldest son will leave Uni forty grand in debt to try and enter an industry which will now be decimated, the British film industry, which up until now has led the world due to a combination of government tax breaks an EU FUNDING, which will now be removed.
I now stand to lose my membership of the French healthcare system which i have due to the reciprocal agreement on contributions between Britain and the EU, which will no doubt now go.
I could go on and on but what would be the point! No doubt some flag waving Brexiteer will be along shortly to tell me to go and do one!
Everyone has been hoodwinked by Boris et al and all their clap trap without paying any heed to the many benefits we gain from EU membership, not the least of which are the workers rights which will now be removed and adversley affect the very people in the labour heartlands that have voted for Brexit.
The Scots will now demand another referendum on independance, which, judging by their desire to stay in Europe will be a forgone conclusion, thus separating England from the European oil capital of Aberdeen.
The Northern Irish are likely to want similar as they wish to remain in Europe too. If they vote to stay then Brexit will have acheived overnight what thirty odd years of armed conflict failed to acheive, so well done there!
Funny how the latest polls now show that eleven percent of Brexit voters think they have made a mistake and wish they could vote again. Too late suckers!!!
In answer to your question Terry, both our sons are applying for dual citizenship and we will be too.Up until now there has been no need. Now there is!
Oh one final parting shot. The current estimate puts the cost to the world economy thus far, post Brexit, at two TRILLION and counting and the TATA Steel deal to save the Port Talbot steel works is probably off. Sleep tight campers!
A couple of snippets that may be of interest to all those misguided anti Europe patriots out there.
More money was wiped off the board overnight due to Brexit than Britain has paid into the EU in the last fifteen years.
The pension fund i have worked hard to build up all my working life had ten percent of its value removed in one go overnight.
My eldest son will leave Uni forty grand in debt to try and enter an industry which will now be decimated, the British film industry, which up until now has led the world due to a combination of government tax breaks an EU FUNDING, which will now be removed.
I now stand to lose my membership of the French healthcare system which i have due to the reciprocal agreement on contributions between Britain and the EU, which will no doubt now go.
I could go on and on but what would be the point! No doubt some flag waving Brexiteer will be along shortly to tell me to go and do one!
Everyone has been hoodwinked by Boris et al and all their clap trap without paying any heed to the many benefits we gain from EU membership, not the least of which are the workers rights which will now be removed and adversley affect the very people in the labour heartlands that have voted for Brexit.
The Scots will now demand another referendum on independance, which, judging by their desire to stay in Europe will be a forgone conclusion, thus separating England from the European oil capital of Aberdeen.
The Northern Irish are likely to want similar as they wish to remain in Europe too. If they vote to stay then Brexit will have acheived overnight what thirty odd years of armed conflict failed to acheive, so well done there!
Funny how the latest polls now show that eleven percent of Brexit voters think they have made a mistake and wish they could vote again. Too late suckers!!!
In answer to your question Terry, both our sons are applying for dual citizenship and we will be too.Up until now there has been no need. Now there is!
Oh one final parting shot. The current estimate puts the cost to the world economy thus far, post Brexit, at two TRILLION and counting and the TATA Steel deal to save the Port Talbot steel works is probably off. Sleep tight campers!
Luckily Russ , not many Brexiteers here. We feel very sad about the whole situation and have only just got over the physically sick feeling.
I cannot quite understand why the people most effected in a negative way in a Leave win voted to leave!
The lunatics have taken over the asylum :-(
All the best
Terry
I cannot quite understand why the people most effected in a negative way in a Leave win voted to leave!
The lunatics have taken over the asylum :-(
All the best
Terry
The answer to that is very simple Terry. STUPIDITY!
I don't know how much of the debates and opinions from the public you caught on the TV, but one of the highlights for me was the fifty something ladies working in a chip shop in Sheffield. When asked how they were voting it was for out, why? Because the nice man from UKIP comes in once a week and buys fish and chips, but the labour and tory blokes don't. So let me see if i've understood this correctly. You are basing your vote which will affect generations to come on whether someone buys fish and f
king chips!!!
My own stupid brother in law phoned up crowing on about "taking back our country" and "good old Boris". Once i had spent ten minutes reading him his horoscope and hung up on him he was slightly less jubilant. The next day he phoned back and apologised, stating "i wish i'd taken more notice of some of the debates and expert opinon" Not as much as i wish he had, the moron! Needless to say he now regrets his decision, as does his girlfriend who is a nurse and voted based on the ludicrous promise of the money being spent on the NHS and hospitals springing up left right and Chelsea! Seems she has had second thoughts having watched Farage back peddaling on the question THE VERY NEXT DAY!!
Too late suckers. Goodbye Great Britain, hello Little England.
I could weep!
I don't know how much of the debates and opinions from the public you caught on the TV, but one of the highlights for me was the fifty something ladies working in a chip shop in Sheffield. When asked how they were voting it was for out, why? Because the nice man from UKIP comes in once a week and buys fish and chips, but the labour and tory blokes don't. So let me see if i've understood this correctly. You are basing your vote which will affect generations to come on whether someone buys fish and f
king chips!!!My own stupid brother in law phoned up crowing on about "taking back our country" and "good old Boris". Once i had spent ten minutes reading him his horoscope and hung up on him he was slightly less jubilant. The next day he phoned back and apologised, stating "i wish i'd taken more notice of some of the debates and expert opinon" Not as much as i wish he had, the moron! Needless to say he now regrets his decision, as does his girlfriend who is a nurse and voted based on the ludicrous promise of the money being spent on the NHS and hospitals springing up left right and Chelsea! Seems she has had second thoughts having watched Farage back peddaling on the question THE VERY NEXT DAY!!
Too late suckers. Goodbye Great Britain, hello Little England.
I could weep!
We've been here 13 years and never considered getting French citizenship and the reason is very simple.
We didn't need to.
As part of the EU we knew that we could live here with no problems as long as we wanted and could then move to another EU country or back to the UK without being treated any differently to the locals. We certainly didn't leave the UK because we hated it and loved France so much, in fact it's really just an accident that we are here. My employer seconded me over for a year, then asked me to stay for 2 more years, then 3, then someone offered me another role here. There was never a plan.
Now, sadly, that choice has been taken away from me, and more importantly from my children by people who care about who buys fish and chips in their shop.
We didn't need to.
As part of the EU we knew that we could live here with no problems as long as we wanted and could then move to another EU country or back to the UK without being treated any differently to the locals. We certainly didn't leave the UK because we hated it and loved France so much, in fact it's really just an accident that we are here. My employer seconded me over for a year, then asked me to stay for 2 more years, then 3, then someone offered me another role here. There was never a plan.
Now, sadly, that choice has been taken away from me, and more importantly from my children by people who care about who buys fish and chips in their shop.
zbc said:
We've been here 13 years and never considered getting French citizenship and the reason is very simple.
We didn't need to.
As part of the EU we knew that we could live here with no problems as long as we wanted and could then move to another EU country or back to the UK without being treated any differently to the locals. We certainly didn't leave the UK because we hated it and loved France so much, in fact it's really just an accident that we are here. My employer seconded me over for a year, then asked me to stay for 2 more years, then 3, then someone offered me another role here. There was never a plan.
Now, sadly, that choice has been taken away from me, and more importantly from my children by people who care about who buys fish and chips in their shop.
No it hasn't, nothing has changed and there is nothing to say you can't just carry on as you are now. All this flapping and moaning is ridiculous.We didn't need to.
As part of the EU we knew that we could live here with no problems as long as we wanted and could then move to another EU country or back to the UK without being treated any differently to the locals. We certainly didn't leave the UK because we hated it and loved France so much, in fact it's really just an accident that we are here. My employer seconded me over for a year, then asked me to stay for 2 more years, then 3, then someone offered me another role here. There was never a plan.
Now, sadly, that choice has been taken away from me, and more importantly from my children by people who care about who buys fish and chips in their shop.
17 million people voted leave, I'm pretty sure they don't all work in the Chip Shop.
The choices you had about where to live are exactly the same now as they were on Wednesday.
Why not just wait and see what actually happens before writing everything off.
Edited by Blaster72 on Sunday 26th June 12:12
It is, I'm pulling your leg. I live in Surrey but West London is just as good a location as I'm right on the border.
Anyway, London or Surrey - how does that make a difference? I'm not a Londoner, I'm a bit of mongrel really. Born in the South, grew up in Germany and Yorkshire and migrated south again to find work.
Anyway, London or Surrey - how does that make a difference? I'm not a Londoner, I'm a bit of mongrel really. Born in the South, grew up in Germany and Yorkshire and migrated south again to find work.
Russwhitehouse said:
Well it makes a bit of a difference in as much as this is the French forum. Kinda like if i stuck my oar in on matters regarding your neck of the woods.
Fair enough, I know when I'm not welcome. Didn't know I wasn't allowed to comment unless I lived in France. Better tell the German poster Hugo above too. 
Bon chance.
zbc said:
We've been here 13 years and never considered getting French citizenship and the reason is very simple.
We didn't need to.
As part of the EU we knew that we could live here with no problems as long as we wanted and could then move to another EU country or back to the UK without being treated any differently to the locals. We certainly didn't leave the UK because we hated it and loved France so much, in fact it's really just an accident that we are here. My employer seconded me over for a year, then asked me to stay for 2 more years, then 3, then someone offered me another role here. There was never a plan.
Now, sadly, that choice has been taken away from me, and more importantly from my children by people who care about who buys fish and chips in their shop.
I'm in the same boat here in Belgium, and ended up here pretty much the same way you landed in France!We didn't need to.
As part of the EU we knew that we could live here with no problems as long as we wanted and could then move to another EU country or back to the UK without being treated any differently to the locals. We certainly didn't leave the UK because we hated it and loved France so much, in fact it's really just an accident that we are here. My employer seconded me over for a year, then asked me to stay for 2 more years, then 3, then someone offered me another role here. There was never a plan.
Now, sadly, that choice has been taken away from me, and more importantly from my children by people who care about who buys fish and chips in their shop.
Not panicking, but am concerned for the future. I have to renew my "permission to stay" in October, but I guess (hope) that not a lot will change and that it will be a formality. Also worried because I have an old green paper UK driving licence.
I'm certainly not anti-UK, but I enjoy a far better lifestyle in Belgium than I could in the UK, and I'm definitely not looking to return to the UK any time soon.
I tried to register to vote (remain) in the referendum but as I left more than 15 years ago I wasn't eligible.
When I bought my house over here I looked at the possibility of dual nationality, but at that time I would have had to give up my British nationality, which I did not want to do. I have recently heard (anecdotally) that it is now possible to get Belgian nationality without giving up my British passport, and I will be enquiring about that soon.
If any of the Remain camp are genuinely curious about why some of us voted leave, you should watch 'Brexit, the Movie', widely available on youtube. You won't agree with it, it won't convert you, but at least you will understand where we are coming from. Or perhaps you won't bother and prefer ritually crying 'why oh why' while constructing a stereotype of bone headed xenophobes who stick pitchforks in babies.
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