Thinking of buying a 93X
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Hey Nemo, no problem telling you where the car was serviced (when I get home and check the receipts) but it was the previous owner who did it and he lives in Yorkshire.
If it's any help I'll be taking the car to Saabtech in Welwyn Garden City when the time comes, they seem to be praised on the forums.
FWIW I don't live in Hackney any more, we're in Harrow but Welwyn isn't too far from that neck of the woods.
If it's any help I'll be taking the car to Saabtech in Welwyn Garden City when the time comes, they seem to be praised on the forums.
FWIW I don't live in Hackney any more, we're in Harrow but Welwyn isn't too far from that neck of the woods.
Hackney said:
Hey Nemo, no problem telling you where the car was serviced (when I get home and check the receipts) but it was the previous owner who did it and he lives in Yorkshire.
If it's any help I'll be taking the car to Saabtech in Welwyn Garden City when the time comes, they seem to be praised on the forums.
FWIW I don't live in Hackney any more, we're in Harrow but Welwyn isn't too far from that neck of the woods.
If it's any help I'll be taking the car to Saabtech in Welwyn Garden City when the time comes, they seem to be praised on the forums.
FWIW I don't live in Hackney any more, we're in Harrow but Welwyn isn't too far from that neck of the woods.
Yorkshire...will have to rethink that one then!That does help actually I will look into them, Cheers
Nemo Sum said:
Yorkshire...will have to rethink that one then!That does help actually I will look into them, Cheers
Not used them yet but a lot of people on the Saab forums mention / rave about them.
They could be getting my business instead of the place in Welwyn, just because of the convenience.
Hackney said:
Just discovered I work about 10 mins away from Neo Brothers http://www.neobrothers.co.uk/index.php
Not used them yet but a lot of people on the Saab forums mention / rave about them.
They could be getting my business instead of the place in Welwyn, just because of the convenience.
They are pretty close to me also and I've read good stuff about them. SOme bad things about them also but those particular reviews are from quite a while back and are not servicing related. I will check them out whatever the case simply sue to convenience such as yourself.Not used them yet but a lot of people on the Saab forums mention / rave about them.
They could be getting my business instead of the place in Welwyn, just because of the convenience.
Saabaholic said:
According to their recent postings on UK Saabs. Neos no longer offer any workshop services.
They just sell parts now.
But they still have not updated their website to reflect this.
Went to them this morning and spoke to one of the guys on the front desk who said that they do do servicing "bits and bobs" were his exact words so make of that what you will. Coincidentally had the low coolant light come on yesterday evening also so bought some from them at what seemed a fair price.They just sell parts now.
But they still have not updated their website to reflect this.
I wasn't there long at all, but got the impression that they were a professional outfit and knew what was what. Car isn't due a service for a while yet but I think I know where I'll be heading to when it is.
I spoke to them before catching up on this thread.
The car is booked in on Monday for them to have a look at a few bits and bobs (to coin a phrase)
- I want to get under the car inspected to check London's speed bumps and a particularly nasty one on the entrance to the car park where I work - which means I now park down the road - haven't done any damage. It'd be a shame if I had to replace the exhaust with an aftermarket one
- Also noticed a slight squeak from somewhere at low speeds. First noticed it in heavy traffic and heavy rain, possibly disappears at high speed but road noise could drown it out
- help me decide whether to (pay for the subscription and ) keep the JZW stage 1 tune or switch to the maptun remap I also have (unfortunately no rolling road data for Maptun, only JZW)
- General once over and see if I like the operation
No mention when I called that they don't do anything, will see on Monday
The car is booked in on Monday for them to have a look at a few bits and bobs (to coin a phrase)
- I want to get under the car inspected to check London's speed bumps and a particularly nasty one on the entrance to the car park where I work - which means I now park down the road - haven't done any damage. It'd be a shame if I had to replace the exhaust with an aftermarket one
- Also noticed a slight squeak from somewhere at low speeds. First noticed it in heavy traffic and heavy rain, possibly disappears at high speed but road noise could drown it out
- help me decide whether to (pay for the subscription and ) keep the JZW stage 1 tune or switch to the maptun remap I also have (unfortunately no rolling road data for Maptun, only JZW)
- General once over and see if I like the operation
No mention when I called that they don't do anything, will see on Monday
Very impressed with Neo Bros, only downside of a very busy / popular garage is very little time to chat about the car other than what needs fixing. Time is money I suspect. And to be fair I did get some useful info from them.
But, to start at the beginning, the squeak became a scrape and turned into a seized caliper. Kwikfit - where'd I'd gone on spec quoted £500 so a quick call to Neo Bros got the same job priced at £200 odd and able to fit me in that afternoon.
Further investigation meant a new disk too and same for the other side. While I was there I got the passenger side heater vent replaced (missing knob was annoying me; a cargo net for the boot (yet to be fitted) and a new key as the button on the old one was sticking.
They also switched me back to the Maptun remap from the JZW - their advice was that JZW were cagey with the figures and the map could be a bit brutal on the engine / transmission. Maptun just much better resolved. (Should point out there was no money in this for them as I had both available to me)
I'd be wondering whether to pay the $100 off dollars for JZW updates, but probably won't now.
Their (NB's) view was that if it was well resolved in the first place you wouldn't need updates.
From looking at the Maptun site I'm back to 295 bhp from 320 but I haven't really noticed a difference yet, possibly only psychological. I'm tempted to go for bigger better from Maptun in the future though.
Total bill was £560 which includes labour at around £60 per hour IIRC for the brakes and more peace of mind than I'd get from Kwikfit. Just hope I don't get any more big bills this side of Christmas.
I'll definitely be going back to Neo Bros though. I just hope they can persuade the council to resurface the road down to their industrial estate, it's a bit agricultural in places. Not ideal when you're on lowered suspension.
But, to start at the beginning, the squeak became a scrape and turned into a seized caliper. Kwikfit - where'd I'd gone on spec quoted £500 so a quick call to Neo Bros got the same job priced at £200 odd and able to fit me in that afternoon.
Further investigation meant a new disk too and same for the other side. While I was there I got the passenger side heater vent replaced (missing knob was annoying me; a cargo net for the boot (yet to be fitted) and a new key as the button on the old one was sticking.
They also switched me back to the Maptun remap from the JZW - their advice was that JZW were cagey with the figures and the map could be a bit brutal on the engine / transmission. Maptun just much better resolved. (Should point out there was no money in this for them as I had both available to me)
I'd be wondering whether to pay the $100 off dollars for JZW updates, but probably won't now.
Their (NB's) view was that if it was well resolved in the first place you wouldn't need updates.
From looking at the Maptun site I'm back to 295 bhp from 320 but I haven't really noticed a difference yet, possibly only psychological. I'm tempted to go for bigger better from Maptun in the future though.
Total bill was £560 which includes labour at around £60 per hour IIRC for the brakes and more peace of mind than I'd get from Kwikfit. Just hope I don't get any more big bills this side of Christmas.
I'll definitely be going back to Neo Bros though. I just hope they can persuade the council to resurface the road down to their industrial estate, it's a bit agricultural in places. Not ideal when you're on lowered suspension.
Should have stuck with JZW there mate, the bhp isn't that much higher but you get a shed load extra torque which makes for a much quicker car imo. But Maptuns still highly regarded in SAAB land 
What's the $100 updates? Did that come from John or mentioned elsewhere? I'm not 100% how it works if you've purchased a JZW stage 1 car and want to upgrade to stage 3 or 4 if your not the original owner? But for me to go from stage 1 to 5 it was $150 as its a custom map, stage 1-4 is free (but I originally bought the map from him)
What's the $100 updates? Did that come from John or mentioned elsewhere? I'm not 100% how it works if you've purchased a JZW stage 1 car and want to upgrade to stage 3 or 4 if your not the original owner? But for me to go from stage 1 to 5 it was $150 as its a custom map, stage 1-4 is free (but I originally bought the map from him)
griffin dai said:
Should have stuck with JZW there mate, the bhp isn't that much higher but you get a shed load extra torque which makes for a much quicker car imo. But Maptuns still highly regarded in SAAB land
What's the $100 updates? Did that come from John or mentioned elsewhere? I'm not 100% how it works if you've purchased a JZW stage 1 car and want to upgrade to stage 3 or 4 if your not the original owner? But for me to go from stage 1 to 5 it was $150 as its a custom map, stage 1-4 is free (but I originally bought the map from him)
Updates may be the wrong word. Previous owner (Davo on UKSaabs) bought the map originally so it's probably the new owner licence fee.What's the $100 updates? Did that come from John or mentioned elsewhere? I'm not 100% how it works if you've purchased a JZW stage 1 car and want to upgrade to stage 3 or 4 if your not the original owner? But for me to go from stage 1 to 5 it was $150 as its a custom map, stage 1-4 is free (but I originally bought the map from him)
I may well miss the torque - although it's not short of it with the Maptun map - but this is my daily driver / only car and will be used *a lot* so I don't want to to cause damage if I can help it.
Having said that I might have been given a scare story by Neo Bros ("I'm not just saying this because we're their agent") but I did wonder whether updates would mean it's a bit trial and error (trial by user) than fully refined.
I'll see how it goes. Upgrade the intercooler and then look at Stage 2 Maptun I think.
BTW I have same username on UKSaabs - just getting into the swing of it over there though.
I'll have to check that mate. I think the JZW softwares locked to the cars VIN, so you can't remove it and put on another car, I'll have to check this one, but when I sell mine it'll be put back to stage 1 and I'll keep the exhaust/turbo/injectors for the next one.
Yeah definitely worth getting your head into a few threads on UKS as there's loads of info there, well worth a look in the projects sub forum for some idea
You do get a lot more tuning ability with JZW (some torque monsters across the pond!!) but honestly can't go wrong with Maptun and Neos. I'd be camped out front if I lived closer!!
Yeah definitely worth getting your head into a few threads on UKS as there's loads of info there, well worth a look in the projects sub forum for some idea
You do get a lot more tuning ability with JZW (some torque monsters across the pond!!) but honestly can't go wrong with Maptun and Neos. I'd be camped out front if I lived closer!!
I'll have to check that mate. I think the JZW softwares locked to the cars VIN, so you can't remove it and put on another car, I'll have to check this one, but when I sell mine it'll be put back to stage 1 and I'll keep the exhaust/turbo/injectors for the next one.
Yeah definitely worth getting your head into a few threads on UKS as there's loads of info there, well worth a look in the projects sub forum for some idea
You do get a lot more tuning ability with JZW (some torque monsters across the pond!!) but honestly can't go wrong with Maptun and Neos. I'd be camped out front if I lived closer!!
Yeah definitely worth getting your head into a few threads on UKS as there's loads of info there, well worth a look in the projects sub forum for some idea
You do get a lot more tuning ability with JZW (some torque monsters across the pond!!) but honestly can't go wrong with Maptun and Neos. I'd be camped out front if I lived closer!!
Would anyone be able to suggest or recommend a garage that would be able to service the haldex system on the TX?
I've tried a few Saab independents who weren't the most informed. A couple who definitely do it but vary quite a bit in cost. And I've tried a some Vauxhall specialists who made up nonsense about the system needing different tools.
Any help would be appreciated.
I've tried a few Saab independents who weren't the most informed. A couple who definitely do it but vary quite a bit in cost. And I've tried a some Vauxhall specialists who made up nonsense about the system needing different tools.
Any help would be appreciated.
RedLeicester said:
Neo Bros either do or know people who do, I've chatted to them about it before. There's also somewhere in south wales that has a good rep but their name escapes me.
Probably worth asking on uksaabs as there are a fair few owners there.
I'll try uksaabs thank you. I actually took my car to Neo Bro's have the suspension changed earlier this year, spoke to Demos about it and he said he didn't know of any Probably worth asking on uksaabs as there are a fair few owners there.
Try Thorney Motorsport, they deal mainly with VX but have an excellent rep over on vxrol. They can also upgrade the hadlex for higher powered cars.
http://www.thorney.ms/insignia-vxr-haldex-upgrade....
http://www.thorney.ms/insignia-vxr-haldex-upgrade....
Thank you to all for the suggestions, I did have a look at Thorney Motorsport but the distance needed to be traveled, cost of the work and the time it was going to take is just too much for me at the moment.
However, it is booked into Ballards of Finchley SAAB for Monday. Their service over the phone was excellent so fingers crossed the actual work will be also. Plus they aren't a 200 mile round trip or more away from me which helps. I'll let you know how it all goes and report back once I have the car back.
However, it is booked into Ballards of Finchley SAAB for Monday. Their service over the phone was excellent so fingers crossed the actual work will be also. Plus they aren't a 200 mile round trip or more away from me which helps. I'll let you know how it all goes and report back once I have the car back.
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