Drive - Tuned! - Exige 710bhp
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Zero 1 said:
He's a shark hunting in the shallow end of the pool. A real great white would step out into the ocean to make a name for himself. "The Canyons" are small time. He's bringing an Ak-47 to a bare knuckle boxing match and bragging like he knocked out Muhammed Ali.
so what exactly are you doing then?Scuffers said:
so what exactly are you doing then?
Karting in one of the most competitive series in the entire United States. Not bragging about something a thousand people have done before me. Listening to every person I speak to realizing they might have something valuable to bring to the table from their experience instead of bashing the living f*ck out of them before I even get to know them. Realizing that the learning process is never over. Not wasting hundreds of thousands of dollars on something I can only drive to 50% of it's capability. I've called Frank out multiple times and he's declined my invitation every single time. I'm sorry but the only skill this guy has is spending money.
He' so predictable that I can post his reply for him:
"You loser *ss piece of #$^&. You're just jealous because you can't afford what I've built. Lets see what you've built I bet you couldn't even touch me without double laning in "the canyons." F- this F- that. *Lots of pictures with a middle finger to the camera* It's all about the $$$ baby, f*cking Porsche driver pieces of #$@!."
Roger Clark Motorsports in the UK (which Frank thinks is behind the USA in terms of their "tuner scene" has produced a 2.0 Liter engine that makes 890bhp. Anyone who thinks what Ronin has done is ground breaking needs to read Forced Induction Tuning by A. Graham Bell.
At the end of the day this guy isn't pushing boundaries or limits, hes spending money. Anyone who can't see that needs to read the aforementioned book.
Sorry for the rant, but Frank is a pre-madonna who belongs to the $$$ > brains club. Theres really nothing special about this car, ESPECIALLY when you consider the fact he is running on an alcohol mix.
Edited by Zero 1 on Tuesday 8th May 08:48
Edited by Zero 1 on Tuesday 8th May 08:51
Zero 1 said:
Karting in one of the most competitive series in the entire United States. Not bragging about something a thousand people have done before me. Listening to every person I speak to realizing they might have something valuable to bring to the table from their experience instead of bashing the living f*ck out of them before I even get to know them. Realizing that the learning process is never over. Not wasting hundreds of thousands of dollars on something I can only drive to 50% of it's capability.
so, zero then?can you point out a single thing you have developed?
Zero 1 said:
Roger Clark Motorsports in the UK (which Frank thinks is behind the USA in terms of their "tuner scene" has produced a 2.0 Liter engine that makes 890bhp. Anyone who thinks what Ronin has done is ground breaking needs to read Forced Induction Tuning by A. Graham Bell.
Kind of depends on how you look at it?Yes, the Gobstopper is an amazing bit of work (saw it out at Cadwell this weekend for Time Attack), however, to compare that to Franks car is somewhat misguided, (although if you want to get into numbers, Franks 1.8 is making more hp/litre).
Main point to remember is that Roger Clarke are there to promote their business and as such, have to win, thus they budgets are somewhat higher than Franks back pocket, (mind you, that's not guarantee of winning, they broke it this weekend)
3 answers with a couple sub points:
1) "so, zero then?" Is a cheap shot at my experience that has no weight to it. If you want to insult me you're going to have to do a lot better than that. You have no idea what my background with cars is and you have no idea what I've done over my life time. Just because a person doesn't projectile vomit every accomplishment they have achieved, doesn't mean they aren't accomplished.
A. Don't confuse a humble person for an inexperienced person.
2) Having said that I have been an assistant to several engine builders and have personally assembled a Nascar V8 that was shipped to a divisional team that competes in a series that is just below Nascar in terms of the ranks.
A. What you would realize if you were well read is that most ideas you have dreamed up have been tried in some form or another over the last thousand or more years. I'd recommend you read a bit about Leonardo Da Vinci if you aren't familiar with his work.
B. There is very little need to develop on your own budget. The internal combustion engine was invented in its most primitive sense circa the 13th century by the Chinese / Mongols. People have been developing this technology to arrive in the form we see it today for hundreds of years. Do an internet search for anything automotive related and you are flooded with forums, internet relay chat, magazine articles, technical articles, math, physics, books, how tos.
It's stupid in 2012 to do you're own R&D unless you're trying to run a car off ionized gas or something that really hasn't been exploited in the last 100 years.
Otto von Bismarck once said, " A smart man learns from his mistakes, but a truly wise man learns from the mistakes of others?"
3) I assume since you're into numbers you're familiar with break mean effective pressure (BMEP) which is a much more accurate way of comparing the work two engines of different displacement produce. Any child can calculate bhp per liter.
What is the calculated BMEP for Franks Lotus compared to Roger Clark Motorsports Subaru? I'm sure Frank knows and would be willing to share with us.
If you're going to insult someone like me you need to bring a lot more weight to the table than what your last post tipped the scales at.
1) "so, zero then?" Is a cheap shot at my experience that has no weight to it. If you want to insult me you're going to have to do a lot better than that. You have no idea what my background with cars is and you have no idea what I've done over my life time. Just because a person doesn't projectile vomit every accomplishment they have achieved, doesn't mean they aren't accomplished.
A. Don't confuse a humble person for an inexperienced person.
2) Having said that I have been an assistant to several engine builders and have personally assembled a Nascar V8 that was shipped to a divisional team that competes in a series that is just below Nascar in terms of the ranks.
A. What you would realize if you were well read is that most ideas you have dreamed up have been tried in some form or another over the last thousand or more years. I'd recommend you read a bit about Leonardo Da Vinci if you aren't familiar with his work.
B. There is very little need to develop on your own budget. The internal combustion engine was invented in its most primitive sense circa the 13th century by the Chinese / Mongols. People have been developing this technology to arrive in the form we see it today for hundreds of years. Do an internet search for anything automotive related and you are flooded with forums, internet relay chat, magazine articles, technical articles, math, physics, books, how tos.
It's stupid in 2012 to do you're own R&D unless you're trying to run a car off ionized gas or something that really hasn't been exploited in the last 100 years.
Otto von Bismarck once said, " A smart man learns from his mistakes, but a truly wise man learns from the mistakes of others?"
3) I assume since you're into numbers you're familiar with break mean effective pressure (BMEP) which is a much more accurate way of comparing the work two engines of different displacement produce. Any child can calculate bhp per liter.
What is the calculated BMEP for Franks Lotus compared to Roger Clark Motorsports Subaru? I'm sure Frank knows and would be willing to share with us.
If you're going to insult someone like me you need to bring a lot more weight to the table than what your last post tipped the scales at.
Edited by Zero 1 on Tuesday 8th May 10:08
Edited by Zero 1 on Tuesday 8th May 10:14
Zero 1 said:
Some stuff...
With respect, I was not trying to insult you (trust me, if I was you would know about it!)Yes, the internal combustion engine has been around for years, and yes, there is almost nothing genuinely new these days (although a lot if the more recent stuff is only practical/possible because of the advances in materials and manufacturing available now that were just not possible/cost effective 50+ years ago).
for example, a current DFV can easily out-perform what the same engine was capable of back 30+ years ago due to advances in materials and engine management systems, is any of this 'new' ? probably not, but it's still ahead of where it was.
Yes, Compound charging is nothing new, been about in one form or another for 50+ years, however, it's only recently been applied to road cars (Lancia aside) with the quest for more economical engines (VAG anyone?), Frank looked at it as a solution to the issue of needing a HUGE turbo to make his power goals, without the massive boost threshold/lagg that said huge turbo introduced, and as such, is the first person to apply this to the 2ZZ engine and an Elise.
Now, maybe you think that's no big deal, and on paper, no it's probably not going to warrant an SAE paper on the subject, however, it is dam impressive for what it is, and nobody else has done it.
Many people out there are doing similar development projects, most are using existing theories or designs, just adapting them for the application, however, does that make them any less innovative?
eg. VAG's DSG is nothing new, John Deere's gearboxes have used this setup for 40 some years in tractors to great effect, this does not however detract from VAG developing this into road cars does it?
My point to you was it's easy to throw rocks at others doing this kind of stuff, but unless you have done stuff like this, it's somewhat bad form to criticize others for doing it.
Scuffers said:
With respect, I was not trying to insult you (trust me, if I was you would know about it!)
Yes, the internal combustion engine has been around for years, and yes, there is almost nothing genuinely new these days (although a lot if the more recent stuff is only practical/possible because of the advances in materials and manufacturing available now that were just not possible/cost effective 50+ years ago).
for example, a current DFV can easily out-perform what the same engine was capable of back 30+ years ago due to advances in materials and engine management systems, is any of this 'new' ? probably not, but it's still ahead of where it was.
Yes, Compound charging is nothing new, been about in one form or another for 50+ years, however, it's only recently been applied to road cars (Lancia aside) with the quest for more economical engines (VAG anyone?), Frank looked at it as a solution to the issue of needing a HUGE turbo to make his power goals, without the massive boost threshold/lagg that said huge turbo introduced, and as such, is the first person to apply this to the 2ZZ engine and an Elise.
Now, maybe you think that's no big deal, and on paper, no it's probably not going to warrant an SAE paper on the subject, however, it is dam impressive for what it is, and nobody else has done it.
Many people out there are doing similar development projects, most are using existing theories or designs, just adapting them for the application, however, does that make them any less innovative?
eg. VAG's DSG is nothing new, John Deere's gearboxes have used this setup for 40 some years in tractors to great effect, this does not however detract from VAG developing this into road cars does it?
My point to you was it's easy to throw rocks at others doing this kind of stuff, but unless you have done stuff like this, it's somewhat bad form to criticize others for doing it.
And he went through several engines and gearboxes in the process. Theres a guy on PH who is building a 500hp S1 exige with a K20 that has had it's displacement increased to 2200cc. Much smarter way of achieving usable power. Yes, the internal combustion engine has been around for years, and yes, there is almost nothing genuinely new these days (although a lot if the more recent stuff is only practical/possible because of the advances in materials and manufacturing available now that were just not possible/cost effective 50+ years ago).
for example, a current DFV can easily out-perform what the same engine was capable of back 30+ years ago due to advances in materials and engine management systems, is any of this 'new' ? probably not, but it's still ahead of where it was.
Yes, Compound charging is nothing new, been about in one form or another for 50+ years, however, it's only recently been applied to road cars (Lancia aside) with the quest for more economical engines (VAG anyone?), Frank looked at it as a solution to the issue of needing a HUGE turbo to make his power goals, without the massive boost threshold/lagg that said huge turbo introduced, and as such, is the first person to apply this to the 2ZZ engine and an Elise.
Now, maybe you think that's no big deal, and on paper, no it's probably not going to warrant an SAE paper on the subject, however, it is dam impressive for what it is, and nobody else has done it.
Many people out there are doing similar development projects, most are using existing theories or designs, just adapting them for the application, however, does that make them any less innovative?
eg. VAG's DSG is nothing new, John Deere's gearboxes have used this setup for 40 some years in tractors to great effect, this does not however detract from VAG developing this into road cars does it?
My point to you was it's easy to throw rocks at others doing this kind of stuff, but unless you have done stuff like this, it's somewhat bad form to criticize others for doing it.
Remember at the end of the day Ronin isn't out time attacking or racing in a competitive series. Hes' driving some canyon roads on Saturdays that a lot of cyclists, motorists, and riders use. He probably had to build a car to that level just so kids in civics who actually know how to hustle around corners wouldn't embarrass him.
Personally it's just not that impressive to me and I should be able to state my opinion in an open forum. I worked for a guy who built 2000hp motors every day.
The 2ZZ has been around for a while now, when something has been around for a while and no one has done it I always think theres a good reason. After I found out Frank tanked several engines and gearboxes I realized why. Smart people spend their money on proven technology unless they're getting paid to develop new tech (like the guys who designed the Lancia...they got paid to do that).
If you don't agree I'd be happy to take your money and develop all day.
Cars built to that level should not be driven by tools on public roads. Take your car to the track where you can drive it safely. I've known several people who have been killed on these roads because someone irresponsibly dicked around with a car that was beyond their capabilities.
The mainstream side of the industry worships peak HP numbers after the Veyron. Theres a lot more to building a fast car than power to weight and HP per liter.
Guys like Ronin don't get it and never will. It would be unfortunate if he killed someone or himself for no reason other than a cheap thrill. He already lost control of his car on the 101 (that Porsche story was total BS).
How long until another wreck?
Edited by Zero 1 on Tuesday 8th May 21:25
Zero 1 said:
And he went through several engines and gearboxes in the process. Theres a guy on PH who is building a 500hp S1 exige with a K20 that has had it's displacement increased to 2200cc. Much smarter way of achieving usable power.
Remember at the end of the day Ronin isn't out time attacking or racing in a competitive series. Hes' driving some canyon roads on Saturdays that a lot of cyclists, motorists, and riders use.
Personally it's just not that impressive to me and I should be able to state my opinion in an open forum. I worked for a guy who built 2000hp motors every day.
If we were talking 680whp on pump gas I would be impressed.
The 2ZZ has been around for a while now, when something has been around for a while and no one has done it I always think theres a good reason. After I found out Frank tanked several engines and gearboxes I realized why.
The claims of the next car being even faster are a total joke. He's not going to be able to put the power down and if he had the balls to take the car up to speed he would pretty much be dead or kill someone else if he had an off.
Cars built to that level should not be driven by tools on public roads. Take your car to the track where you can drive it safely. I've known several people who have been killed on these roads because someone irresponsibly dicked around with a car that was beyond their capabilities.
The mainstream side of the industry worships peak HP numbers after the Veyron. Theres a lot more to building a fast car than power to weight and HP per liter.
Guys like Ronin don't get it and never will. It would be unfortunate if he killed someone or himself for no reason other than a cheap thrill. He already lost control of his car on the 101 (that Porsche story was total BS and no one will convince me otherwise).
How long until another wreck?
WOW!Remember at the end of the day Ronin isn't out time attacking or racing in a competitive series. Hes' driving some canyon roads on Saturdays that a lot of cyclists, motorists, and riders use.
Personally it's just not that impressive to me and I should be able to state my opinion in an open forum. I worked for a guy who built 2000hp motors every day.
If we were talking 680whp on pump gas I would be impressed.
The 2ZZ has been around for a while now, when something has been around for a while and no one has done it I always think theres a good reason. After I found out Frank tanked several engines and gearboxes I realized why.
The claims of the next car being even faster are a total joke. He's not going to be able to put the power down and if he had the balls to take the car up to speed he would pretty much be dead or kill someone else if he had an off.
Cars built to that level should not be driven by tools on public roads. Take your car to the track where you can drive it safely. I've known several people who have been killed on these roads because someone irresponsibly dicked around with a car that was beyond their capabilities.
The mainstream side of the industry worships peak HP numbers after the Veyron. Theres a lot more to building a fast car than power to weight and HP per liter.
Guys like Ronin don't get it and never will. It would be unfortunate if he killed someone or himself for no reason other than a cheap thrill. He already lost control of his car on the 101 (that Porsche story was total BS and no one will convince me otherwise).
How long until another wreck?
I can see there's more than a little animosity here then!
Specifically, your first assertion (the 500Bhp Exige) is laughable, let's just leave aside for one monebt that it has yet to even run (let alone turn a wheel/see a dyno), so proclaiming it as the 'right way to go' is a little premature don't you think?
Secondly, what exactly is wrong with wanting a multi-hundred BHP car for the road? Plenty of cars have been sold on this basis before and will do in the future, just because you consider it bad form?
Yes, the 2ZZ is hardly new, but as many have tried and failed to get decent power from it, itis nice to see somebody actually achieve something with it.
Yes, his is no race car, but this one is, using info gained from Frank:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqyFbUj3cYM
but I guess this is also pointless and stupid (as well as killing kittens etc)?
and if your going to make assertions about peoples reckless driving, I would suggest you might want to get some real evidence to back the statement up don't you think?
Look, I can understand why your not into canyon driving, neither am I, (I prefer cct racing), but so what? I don't really like drag racing either, but I still respect it as other peoples choice.
seems to me you have some beef with Frank (other than what you have eluded to), and seem to think it's OK to jump on here and vent?
Scuffers said:
WOW!
I can see there's more than a little animosity here then!
Specifically, your first assertion (the 500Bhp Exige) is laughable, let's just leave aside for one monebt that it has yet to even run (let alone turn a wheel/see a dyno), so proclaiming it as the 'right way to go' is a little premature don't you think?
Secondly, what exactly is wrong with wanting a multi-hundred BHP car for the road? Plenty of cars have been sold on this basis before and will do in the future, just because you consider it bad form?
Yes, the 2ZZ is hardly new, but as many have tried and failed to get decent power from it, itis nice to see somebody actually achieve something with it.
Yes, his is no race car, but this one is, using info gained from Frank:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqyFbUj3cYM
but I guess this is also pointless and stupid (as well as killing kittens etc)?
and if your going to make assertions about peoples reckless driving, I would suggest you might want to get some real evidence to back the statement up don't you think?
Look, I can understand why your not into canyon driving, neither am I, (I prefer cct racing), but so what? I don't really like drag racing either, but I still respect it as other peoples choice.
seems to me you have some beef with Frank (other than what you have eluded to), and seem to think it's OK to jump on here and vent?
Nothings wrong with drag racing because its sanctioned in a closed environment where if something goes wrong it's more than likely going to be your ass and not some kids. A lot of locals have told me about Ronin's driving. I don't go up to Mulholland anymore because it's filled up with people like Ronin. I can see there's more than a little animosity here then!
Specifically, your first assertion (the 500Bhp Exige) is laughable, let's just leave aside for one monebt that it has yet to even run (let alone turn a wheel/see a dyno), so proclaiming it as the 'right way to go' is a little premature don't you think?
Secondly, what exactly is wrong with wanting a multi-hundred BHP car for the road? Plenty of cars have been sold on this basis before and will do in the future, just because you consider it bad form?
Yes, the 2ZZ is hardly new, but as many have tried and failed to get decent power from it, itis nice to see somebody actually achieve something with it.
Yes, his is no race car, but this one is, using info gained from Frank:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqyFbUj3cYM
but I guess this is also pointless and stupid (as well as killing kittens etc)?
and if your going to make assertions about peoples reckless driving, I would suggest you might want to get some real evidence to back the statement up don't you think?
Look, I can understand why your not into canyon driving, neither am I, (I prefer cct racing), but so what? I don't really like drag racing either, but I still respect it as other peoples choice.
seems to me you have some beef with Frank (other than what you have eluded to), and seem to think it's OK to jump on here and vent?
I knew a kid who was driving and killed in a head on with a guy who understeered right into him. Talk to me when you've closed a couple caskets because someone wouldn't take it to the track...
Zero 1 said:
Nothings wrong with drag racing because its sanctioned in a closed environment where if something goes wrong it's more than likely going to be your ass and not some kids. A lot of locals have told me about Ronin's driving. I don't go up to Mulholland anymore because it's filled up with people like Ronin.
I knew a kid who was driving and killed in a head on with a guy who understeered right into him. Talk to me when you've closed a couple caskets because someone wouldn't take it to the track...
look, I am old enough to have known quite enough people that are no longer with us for various reasons, this does not however, make me qualified to comment on what may or may not happen in such circumstances.I knew a kid who was driving and killed in a head on with a guy who understeered right into him. Talk to me when you've closed a couple caskets because someone wouldn't take it to the track...
to be honest, your starting to sound like our good friends at BRAKE, ie:
"BUT THINK OF THE CHILDREN!"
Scuffers said:
look, I am old enough to have known quite enough people that are no longer with us for various reasons, this does not however, make me qualified to comment on what may or may not happen in such circumstances.
to be honest, your starting to sound like our good friends at BRAKE, ie:
"BUT THINK OF THE CHILDREN!"
I think you would have a little bit of a different view if you spent some time in and around the area. There are a lot of people who travel these roads on the weekends and a lot of people who have been killed from guys like Ronin who didn't know when to pack it up and take it to a safe environment. I'm all for speed and I'm all for driving fast, but not in a public setting. At the end of the day Ronin can do what ever he wants, but I can tell you this whole heartedly:to be honest, your starting to sound like our good friends at BRAKE, ie:
"BUT THINK OF THE CHILDREN!"
I've never met a bigger p*ssy than Ronin in my entire life as both a driver and as a man. Every time this guy gets called out to prove something like his 0-60 times or to post his police report of the incident with the invisible Porsche he freezes up like a deer in head lights.
He wouldn't even let the Drive Network guys take his car to the race track. You'd laugh if you knew what some of the inside guys have said about this man as a driver. I'm not going to say anymore than that and I'm done posting here.
Take it to the track Frank, if this new car is bigger and badder, you could definitely use the training. Judging by how you drive in a lot of your videos and since you have no other evidence to go off you'd be better off investing your money in some driving lessons than worrying about how to squeeze you're next 50hp out of that little 1.8L.
Oh and Scuffers, I like how you back pedal and have nothing to say once I tell you my experience and what I've done. Says a lot about your character as a person. As a major of psychology in college it's pretty easy to spot insecurity.
See ya guys.
Edited by Zero 1 on Wednesday 9th May 05:09
Zero 1 said:
Scuffers said:
look, I am old enough to have known quite enough people that are no longer with us for various reasons, this does not however, make me qualified to comment on what may or may not happen in such circumstances.
to be honest, your starting to sound like our good friends at BRAKE, ie:
"BUT THINK OF THE CHILDREN!"
I think you would have a little bit of a different view if you spent some time in and around the area. There are a lot of people who travel these roads on the weekends and a lot of people who have been killed from guys like Ronin who didn't know when to pack it up and take it to a safe environment. I'm all for speed and I'm all for driving fast, but not in a public setting. At the end of the day Ronin can do what ever he wants, but I can tell you this whole heartedly:to be honest, your starting to sound like our good friends at BRAKE, ie:
"BUT THINK OF THE CHILDREN!"
I've never met a bigger p*ssy than Ronin in my entire life as both a driver and as a man. Every time this guy gets called out to prove something like his 0-60 times or to post his police report of the incident with the invisible Porsche he freezes up like a deer in head lights.
He wouldn't even let the Drive Network guys take his car to the race track. You'd laugh if you knew what some of the inside guys have said about this man as a driver. I'm not going to say anymore than that and I'm done posting here.
Take it to the track Frank, if this new car is bigger and badder, you could definitely use the training. Judging by how you drive in a lot of your videos and since you have no other evidence to go off you'd be better off investing your money in some driving lessons than worrying about how to squeeze you're next 50hp out of that little 1.8L.
Oh and Scuffers, I like how you back pedal and have nothing to say once I tell you my experience and what I've done. Says a lot about your character as a person.
As a major of psychology in college it's pretty easy to spot insecurity.
See ya guys.
Edited by Zero 1 on Wednesday 9th May 05:09
Edited by the ronin on Wednesday 9th May 05:31
Zero 1 said:
Oh and Scuffers, I like how you back pedal and have nothing to say once I tell you my experience and what I've done. Says a lot about your character as a person. As a major of psychology in college it's pretty easy to spot insecurity.
See ya guys.
sorry?See ya guys.
Me? Back-pedalling?
you really don't have a clue do you?
as far as I can make out, your some spotty youth who's only claim to fame is you wiped out an MX5 doing something dumb on the road.
you clearly know nothing about engines, cars, etc. but seem to like trolling foreign forums.
Anyway, isn't it time you were back in school?
Ronin, will you be staying with the 1.8 unit for the next build or maybe trying out the V6? The reason for asking is not that im putting down the 4pot engine, but it would be under a fair bit less stress for the same power. Obviously there is a weight penalty, but you mentioned that the new car will have a lighter body and that should offset the added weight of the engine. The new supercharged one in the Exige looks pretty intresting. The suppercharge is hopeless too small for the engine (think GM used the same sized unit on a 2.0 ltr engine and think its the same unit (M62 or the equivelent TVS size, think it 1320 or something)) but with a turbo or two added it should make for a very responsive and powerfull combo! obviously the next problems is the added torque and the gearbox..... lol
Chris.
Chris.
Zero 1 said:
I think you would have a little bit of a different view if you spent some time in and around the area. There are a lot of people who travel these roads on the weekends and a lot of people who have been killed from guys like Ronin who didn't know when to pack it up and take it to a safe environment. I'm all for speed and I'm all for driving fast, but not in a public setting. At the end of the day Ronin can do what ever he wants, but I can tell you this whole heartedly:
I've never met a bigger p*ssy than Ronin in my entire life as both a driver and as a man. Every time this guy gets called out to prove something like his 0-60 times or to post his police report of the incident with the invisible Porsche he freezes up like a deer in head lights.
He wouldn't even let the Drive Network guys take his car to the race track. You'd laugh if you knew what some of the inside guys have said about this man as a driver. I'm not going to say anymore than that and I'm done posting here.
Take it to the track Frank, if this new car is bigger and badder, you could definitely use the training. Judging by how you drive in a lot of your videos and since you have no other evidence to go off you'd be better off investing your money in some driving lessons than worrying about how to squeeze you're next 50hp out of that little 1.8L.
Oh and Scuffers, I like how you back pedal and have nothing to say once I tell you my experience and what I've done. Says a lot about your character as a person. As a major of psychology in college it's pretty easy to spot insecurity.
See ya guys.
That's a bit of a strange view. You're calling Ronin a 'pussy' on one hand and then accusing him of driving like a nutter on the other. He is either one or the other!!I've never met a bigger p*ssy than Ronin in my entire life as both a driver and as a man. Every time this guy gets called out to prove something like his 0-60 times or to post his police report of the incident with the invisible Porsche he freezes up like a deer in head lights.
He wouldn't even let the Drive Network guys take his car to the race track. You'd laugh if you knew what some of the inside guys have said about this man as a driver. I'm not going to say anymore than that and I'm done posting here.
Take it to the track Frank, if this new car is bigger and badder, you could definitely use the training. Judging by how you drive in a lot of your videos and since you have no other evidence to go off you'd be better off investing your money in some driving lessons than worrying about how to squeeze you're next 50hp out of that little 1.8L.
Oh and Scuffers, I like how you back pedal and have nothing to say once I tell you my experience and what I've done. Says a lot about your character as a person. As a major of psychology in college it's pretty easy to spot insecurity.
See ya guys.
Edited by Zero 1 on Wednesday 9th May 05:09
I've been lucky enough to both drive and be driven in Frank's car and from my experience I can point out a couple of things to you. Firstly, Frank is a very sensible driver who doesn't drive beyond his own limits and doesn't take unnecessary risks. Personally, I trust that Frank to have a very good appreciation of his own limits and although he may drive faster than some people like, he is a far safer person on the road than most as he is very aware of his speed and his environment. Also, the car isn't just a roller skate with 700bhp strapped in the back. It also stops and corners in a way that makes the power usable and safe to exploit. In some respects I can see where you are coming from and there are plenty of badly tuned cars being driven by inexperienced nobs but Franks isn't one of them.
randy said:
That's a bit of a strange view. You're calling Ronin a 'pussy' on one hand and then accusing him of driving like a nutter on the other. He is either one or the other!!
People can be dangerous drivers and simultaneously be scared of public humiliation: the two are not mutually exclusive. Certainly they both apply to me.I've no idea how or even if this applies to Ronin or the other chap, because I've never met either of them.
This guy has been a stalker troll ever since the Drive video was posted. Have a laugh and read his comments on the You Tube video under the name of John Doe...I have never met this fool in person...but looking forward to it one day.
So can we talk cars or does someone need to see my birth certificate ?
Edited by the ronin on Wednesday 9th May 18:50
chuntington101 said:
Ronin, will you be staying with the 1.8 unit for the next build or maybe trying out the V6? The reason for asking is not that im putting down the 4pot engine, but it would be under a fair bit less stress for the same power. Obviously there is a weight penalty, but you mentioned that the new car will have a lighter body and that should offset the added weight of the engine. The new supercharged one in the Exige looks pretty intresting. The suppercharge is hopeless too small for the engine (think GM used the same sized unit on a 2.0 ltr engine and think its the same unit (M62 or the equivelent TVS size, think it 1320 or something)) but with a turbo or two added it should make for a very responsive and powerfull combo! obviously the next problems is the added torque and the gearbox..... lol
Chris.
I'm stickin with the compound charged 2ZZ for the 211 project since the goal if I had one is not to make too much power for the rear weight bias of the 211. I'm hoping that the transformation won't create too much of a handling issue and be close to right from the get go...After all it's all about balance so hopefuly not too much understeer but enough to play it safe on the road..Chris.
Remember the car is to be driven in the real world and matain the drivability it had before...
When someone else makes real useable power from the V6 I may give it a look since I have the gearbox already.... nah I'm done doing R$D since it's 2012 and only a fool does his own R$D...... Where did I read that ?
I've said I was done before so you never know..
Edited by the ronin on Wednesday 9th May 20:38
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