Talk to me about the Europa S...

[C43]

Hi Skaffen

you are right, I think I have been very lucky to own such a great car.

Funny the guy has had his grill re done, I have just done the same. I also got the front bumper resprayed and Venture shield added so no stone chips there.

Whoever gets mine will be getting a peach.

Good luck with the search. I still think the Europas are great cars. Every time I walk away from mine I take one last look back at it as in the flesh they really work.

cheers

C43

[Oz83]

There's an S for sale here in Sweden. I think it's available as the advert is still running. It's fitted with Nitron dampers and has 3700mil which is 37000km or 23k miles on the clock. Price is around £24K. You could take the ferry back to the UK and re register this quite easily I think.

http://www.blocket.se/ostergotland/Lotus_Europa_S_...

[Skaffen]

Oz83 said:

There's an S for sale here in Sweden. I think it's available as the advert is still running. It's fitted with Nitron dampers and has 3700mil which is 37000km or 23k miles on the clock. Price is around £24K. You could take the ferry back to the UK and re register this quite easily I think.

http://www.blocket.se/ostergotland/Lotus_Europa_S_...

That's the one Phil (Junks) sold back in May last year - I remember reading it went abroad .

http://www.thelotusforums.com/forums/topic/29106-m...

[saaj]

Well handed my car into the dealer at the weekend, they have it up for sale now.




http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/l...

[J2LOT]

You wont find a better car than the above, I had a look at it over the weekend and if I didnt already have a Europa I would have bought it there and then. It has all the right bit on it and is in superb condition

[fatwomble]

saaj said:

Well handed my car into the dealer at the weekend, they have it up for sale now.




http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/l...

Still looks lovely, looks so good in that colour.

[ewand]

Skaffen said:

An S2 Elise (later 111S or 111R) with touring pack are a possibility,

hey Matt, I had an S2 Elise (134 Toyota engine) with Lux touring pack & aircon for a few months before getting the Europa, and the interiors are almost identical - but the Europa has nearly 100bhp more, weighs maybe 150kg more (but still <1t) and it's got so much more grunt low down, and far better brakes (the SE has bigger AP Racing brakes than the S). In some respects, a supercharged S2 with uprated brakes and a good sports exhaust would be a good alternative... but there's something nice about the rarity of Europas

[Skaffen]

ewand said:

hey Matt, I had an S2 Elise (134 Toyota engine) with Lux touring pack & aircon for a few months before getting the Europa, and the interiors are almost identical - but the Europa has nearly 100bhp more, weighs maybe 150kg more (but still <1t) and it's got so much more grunt low down, and far better brakes (the SE has bigger AP Racing brakes than the S). In some respects, a supercharged S2 with uprated brakes and a good sports exhaust would be a good alternative... but there's something nice about the rarity of Europas

I wouldn't go for the 134 engine anyway in an S2 - it'd have to be the 111S or 111R to get similar performance to my S1 111S . I agree about there being something nice about the rarity of the Europas and my preference is for a Europa S - it's just a question of whether one that's the right mix of price, mileage, condition and features comes up in the next few months! I think my max budget's looking like about 18k and there seemed to be a few options in that price range last year (more so in the first half of the year, mind you), so I'm hoping a few more will start to turn up in the classifieds soon. I had a test drive of a non-225 Europa S on standard wheels and despite the typical small flat spot in the acceleration I enjoyed the feel of it so an S w/225 and e.g. TD wheels would be ideal for me. I seem to recall you got rather a bargain with that SE you snapped up .

[saaj]

saaj said:

Well handed my car into the dealer at the weekend, they have it up for sale now.




http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/l...

SOLD, SOLD, SOLD.

That's the car been sold now in just a week. New owner is going to be very happy with it.

[M5Fan]

saaj said:

SOLD, SOLD, SOLD.

That's the car been sold now in just a week. New owner is going to be very happy with it.

Lovely car - didn't quite make £25k then?

Enjoy the new Exige - be interested to hear what you think of it.

[saaj]

M5Fan said:

saaj said:

SOLD, SOLD, SOLD.

That's the car been sold now in just a week. New owner is going to be very happy with it.

Lovely car - didn't quite make £25k then?

Enjoy the new Exige - be interested to hear what you think of it.

Ha Ha, - A number of Europa owners from the Europa forum had a kind of bet going that we could stick the cars up at a mental price and then others trying to sell their cars would automatically put theirs up for sale close to that price.

It actually happened and I remember a few went up around the £23k - £24k region also. I never actually had any intention of selling the car back then but I did get one offer back then where an individual wanted to px their hummer against the car so it could have gone but really the going rate for a nice Europa is about £20k.

I can't see them really depreciating much over the next few years as people are now starting to appreciate them for what they are. A few choice mods make them excellent cars. I don't think you'll find a Europa owner that regrets it or an ex-Europa owner that regretted having the car.

[junks]

One of the best Lotuses I have owned, love the rarity & the styling & the power delivery is fantastic. It feels very quick on acceleration compared to my 265bhp S/C Exige which wasn't slow. As previously mentioned parts should not be a problem as the running gear is shared with the VX & the 111R/Elise S/Exige & between Chris Randall & myself we have the moulds for nearly every panel. My current one will be up for sale soon although I do have someone interested already! I was hoping to keep it until the one I'm keeping is rebuilt but trying to build the 340R & get the +2 restored have somewhat drained the funds a bit!! Its a high mileage (67k) but full service history & HPI clear

Edited by junks on Tuesday 12th March 09:17

[C43]

Got mine up for sale at the moment but agree they are great cars. Every time I drive it I wonder if I am doing the right thing selling it. Trouble is I need more seats...

C43

[junks]

C43 said:

Got mine up for sale at the moment but agree they are great cars. Every time I drive it I wonder if I am doing the right thing selling it. Trouble is I need more seats...

C43

I wouldn't be selling it if I didn't have another one to use later!

[C43]

now your pissing me off!

[junks]

C43 said:

now your pissing me off!

[barchetta_boy]

In the end I weakened and stayed true to Porsche... have just put a deposit down on a guards red Boxster Spyder.

Will do the Europa next but I think the Spyder is as close as Porsche get to the Lotus way.

Joel

[C43]

close.....but no cigar

[barchetta_boy]

I know, I know... I have had a Caterham 7 super sport so I understand lightness and the benefits... Guards red Spyder just kind of grabbed me )

[zippyprorider]

barchetta_boy said:

In the end I weakened and stayed true to Porsche... have just put a deposit down on a guards red Boxster Spyder.

Will do the Europa next but I think the Spyder is as close as Porsche get to the Lotus way.

Joel

Will never understand the appeal of the spyder