Actual 1/4 mile drag strip time for your Elise

Actual 1/4 mile drag strip time for your Elise

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D4V KC

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240 months

Wednesday 27th October 2004
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Hi guys, hope you can help. I met a bloke at the V.W. meet on Sunday and he'd fitted Nitrous to his TVR Chimera 4.0L. He was saying it gives him another 120bhp when he switches it on (he had a button on the steering wheel) Now he said he'd taken it to Santa Pod and got a run for the 1/4 mile of 13.5 seconds.....

Just dosen't seem that fast to me? I'm sure my car will do it in about that or just over. Has anyone with an Elise or more specifically with a S1 111s done a drag strip 1/4 mile run? What time did you post? :eek!

I realise the TVR is heavier and the V8 a lump of iron and therefore the power to weight ratio's different to the Elise and also know the Elsie was never designed for drag racing, rather circuit racing but just wanted to know the figures.

Hope you can help, D4V KC


>>> Edited by D4V KC on Wednesday 27th October 17:00

Alex

9,975 posts

285 months

Wednesday 27th October 2004
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According to this site the quarter mile time for a 111s is 14.2s at 100mph.

D4V KC

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240 months

Wednesday 27th October 2004
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Alex said:
According to this site the quarter mile time for a 111s is 14.2s at 100mph.


Cheers for the info Alex.
D4V KC

shnozz

27,502 posts

272 months

Wednesday 27th October 2004
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cuzza did a 14.7 something at Thorney Island this year in his standard elise 1.8, beating me

>> Edited by shnozz on Wednesday 27th October 16:58

D4V KC

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240 months

Wednesday 27th October 2004
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Alex said:
According to this site the quarter mile time for a 111s is 14.2s at 100mph.



That's the Series 2 111s, not sure how it'll compare to the S1 111s. S2 has another 8-10 bhp but weighs another 60 kg's or something.... Can anyone else advise on times?

>> Edited by D4V KC on Wednesday 27th October 17:08

cuzza

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254 months

Wednesday 27th October 2004
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shnozz said:
cuzza did a 14.7 something at Thorney Island this year in his standard elise 1.8, beating me

>> Edited by shnozz on Wednesday 27th October 16:58


14.73 with a terminal speed of 98mph. There was a bit more there as I got a better 60ft time but backed off due to clutch slip.

Suspect a 111S would fair a bit better later in the run.

I'll be back next year for another bash and to go head to head with shnozz. It's not about the lights, it's the time, try telling that to my right foot when those three yellows come on!

shnozz

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Wednesday 27th October 2004
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cuzza said:

shnozz said:
cuzza did a 14.7 something at Thorney Island this year in his standard elise 1.8, beating me

>> Edited by shnozz on Wednesday 27th October 16:58



14.73 with a terminal speed of 98mph. There was a bit more there as I got a better 60ft time but backed off due to clutch slip.

Suspect a 111S would fair a bit better later in the run.

I'll be back next year for another bash and to go head to head with shnozz. It's not about the lights, it's the time, try telling that to my right foot when those three yellows come on!


too right mate. Hopefully next year I wont just plant the throttle and sit on the line spinning my wheels as you complete the lap

14.8 with terminal of 110 mph. shocking

TimW

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248 months

Wednesday 27th October 2004
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13.79@110mph

shnozz

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272 months

Wednesday 27th October 2004
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TimW said:
13.79@110mph


that doesnt count - your dads was the only TVR to let the side down and break down on the track

DustyC

12,820 posts

255 months

Wednesday 27th October 2004
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TimW said:
13.79@110mph


I knew he'd done a lot of modifications but I didnt realise that car had started off as an Elise!

Cuzzas start was amazing, even the crowd gasped when it shot of the line. I think his 60ft time was 2.2? Whatever, it was very impressive and the blokes that knew what they were doing (the ones actually competing) said it was an impressive 60ft time.
Apparently my 2.4## was about normal for a road car of its type.

My starts were about as good as shnozzs but it was good fun doing it. Wanna join us next year at Thorney Island Dave? I'll let you know all the details nearer the time. Its basically an airfield with some timing gear and a fantastic American and Hot Rod car show.

TimW

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248 months

Wednesday 27th October 2004
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DustyC said:

TimW said:
13.79@110mph

I knew he'd done a lot of modifications but I didnt realise that car had started off as an Elise!


Elise?? Dont Get ya


Phil.. it didnt break down its just the fan belt came off.. lol

Martin_S

9,939 posts

246 months

Wednesday 27th October 2004
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D4V KC said:
Hi guys, hope you can help. I met a bloke at the V.W. meet on Sunday and he'd fitted Nitrous to his TVR Chimera 4.0L. He was saying it gives him another 120bhp when he switches it on (he had a button on the steering wheel) Now he said he'd taken it to Santa Pod and got a run for the 1/4 mile of 13.5 seconds.....

Just dosen't seem that fast to me? I'm sure my car will do it in about that or just over. Has anyone with an Elise or more specifically with a S1 111s done a drag strip 1/4 mile run? What time did you post? :eek!

I realise the TVR is heavier and the V8 a lump of iron and therefore the power to weight ratio's different to the Elise and also know the Elsie was never designed for drag racing, rather circuit racing but just wanted to know the figures.

Hope you can help, D4V KC






If the Chimp is fitted with nitrous, 13.5 seconds isn't very impresssive. Evo magazine timed a standard Chimaera (albeit a 4.5 litre) at 13.8 seconds/104mph terminal and standard 5 litre Griffiths (same weight and power as a 5 litre Chimaera) have been recorded at less than 13 seconds.

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The V8 is a lump of aluminium, by the way, therefore not nearly as heavy as you might expect. A TVR Chimaera or Griffith scales 1075 kg, which is heavy by comparison with the Elise, but actually still quite light by comparison with anything else -almost identical to a Renault Clio Sport, for example, and substantially lighter than a Ford Focus.

They don't go round corners, though!





>> Edited by Martin_S on Wednesday 27th October 22:08

shnozz

27,502 posts

272 months

Wednesday 27th October 2004
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oh, and Dave - the person you are on about is Russell Kent and his Nos Chim. He ran it at Pistonfest.

shnozz

27,502 posts

272 months

Wednesday 27th October 2004
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TimW said:

Phil.. it didnt break down its just the fan belt came off.. lol


I know that, you know that, but the bloke that works at Titchfield motors who was helping out with the RS8000 escort still said "see your cars are as good as ever with that old classic one breaking down!"

cheeky bastard! and that was about 6 weeks after the event when I was chatting to him by chance

DustyC

12,820 posts

255 months

Thursday 28th October 2004
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Dave asked what times people were getting in Elises and you wrote

TimW said:
13.79@110mph


Hence my post

D4V KC

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Thursday 28th October 2004
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DustyC said:

TimW said:
13.79@110mph



I knew he'd done a lot of modifications but I didnt realise that car had started off as an Elise!
Wanna join us next year at Thorney Island Dave? I'll let you know all the details nearer the time. Its basically an airfield with some timing gear and a fantastic American and Hot Rod car show.



Thanks for all the feedback guys, looks like if i want an acurate answer to an S1 111s i'll have to have a go myself!!!!!
Where is 'Thorney Island' I'd like to give it a crack next time it's round, maybe even Santa Pod. However i'll be selling my car in April/May. Gonna get the S2 111s and have all that extra luxury! It's my everyday car and the winters are depressing as i get soaked climbing in and out when it's raining.
But if 'Thorneys' after May then i'll happily thrash the S2 down the strip instead

shnozz

27,502 posts

272 months

Thursday 28th October 2004
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dave, thorney island is in July. Its just down near Emsworth (next to pompey) and so on the doorstep. An army base thats opened up for the weekend, stick up a tent, get totally a*seholed, wake up, laugh at DustyC's hangover, majority of public arrive to spectate sunday, register for the strip and then blast down it

great laugh. To be fair, any of these times being given by Russell or anyone else, I wouldnt get too "i am not that impressed/I am impressed"

once you have a go, you will see what I mean. Some cars really surprise you, and when you are talking sub 15 secs 1/4 mile its a quick car. Rich's elise is a quick accelerating car to, say, 50mph, and he was getting off the line like lightning. He was putting in 14.7something. Mine is a 4 litre chimaera, capable of 60 in 5 and 100 in about 12.5 seconds. I did a 14.8.

Then the difference again in getting a second off these times is a BIG difference. Once you get sub 15 seconds, its a massive divide between, say, a car doing a 12.7 and a car doing a 12.3. As Dusty says, we were unexperienced and useless at getting away from the line - i mean that in terms of both too heavy a right foot and a poor reaction time. For that reason alone I reckon we could knock a second off our times. But in terms of the difference between a standard liz and a 111s or a standard chim -v- one with Nos, I think the difference will be minimal. Certainly if you put me behind the wheel of a NOSed cerbera and I raced a seasoned drag racer in a standard elise, he would win. His reactions would be half of mine, he would drop the clutch neater to keep traction throughout, and he would be halfway down the track before I knew what hit me. There is a fairly big element of driver skill in this when you consider how short a time 14 seconds is and you can dither around at the start line for 1 - 2 seconds...

Mrs Fish

30,018 posts

259 months

Thursday 28th October 2004
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Would be interesting to know what the 111R can do, must try to get to Santa Pod sometime.

Fish did 12.something seconds when he took the Tuscan last.




BTW - Shnozz and Cuzza - had the sports exhaust fitted, sounds lovely

shnozz

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272 months

Thursday 28th October 2004
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Mrs Fish said:
Would be interesting to know what the 111R can do, must try to get to Santa Pod sometime.

Fish did 12.something seconds when he took the Tuscan last.




BTW - Shnozz and Cuzza - had the sports exhaust fitted, sounds lovely


great news needed to get that lovely tone louder. Bet its flying now you can use the full rev range too excellant!

12. anything is a very good time. I was really struggling to get power down and we werent exactly of the sharpest reactions after getting shedded the night before I would live to get into the 13s next year, time will tell I guess.

D4V KC

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644 posts

240 months

Thursday 28th October 2004
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Mrs Fish said:
Would be interesting to know what the 111R can do, must try to get to Santa Pod sometime.

Fish did 12.something seconds when he took the Tuscan last.




BTW - Shnozz and Cuzza - had the sports exhaust fitted, sounds lovely



According to the website mentioned in the 2nd posting on this thread, Autocar and Evo average reckon:

S2 ELISE 111R 0-60=5.1 1/4 MILE=14.6
S2 ELISE 111 & 111S 0-60=5.0 1/4 MILE=14.2
S1 ELISE 0-60=5.7 1/4 MILE=14.4

So Mrs Fish, Fancy a run together next July?
I'll have the S2 111s by then?
(with sports zaust and induction kit)





>> Edited by D4V KC on Thursday 28th October 11:15