Jaw on the floor - Syvecs/RG FFF/ACT content
Discussion
collingbroon said:
Just for comparison purposes my mate with a 4.5 power sagaris is getting 460hp at the fly, so really good for a 4 litre.
Really? I think a few people round here might ask where the rest of their horses have gone then! 
blackiepaul said:
Let me have a drive and try it out for you 
I can not see how 19's would be better on the car - especially on track?
Ha - but then again, you are one of the few people I could ever possibly trust with my Sag. I can not see how 19's would be better on the car - especially on track?
As for the 19" thing - it's bizarre. It really is, but I'm not the only one who says this. It shouldn't work, it really shouldn't. It's goes against everything we know and understand. But it hits a real sweet spot, and it really works. I'm wondering if its the rigidity of the wheel?
collingbroon said:
Maybe he has been telling me porkies! Whats the average going figures for a 4.5 that others have seen?
This thread was created so people can see real-world horsepower of the different engine sizes, modifying bits etc. Modified S6 WikiHollowpockets said:
I know rolling road comparissons could be argued all day long BUT, I think it seems a bit far fetched that two dyno's could measure roughly 50/60bhp out from each other on the same car, surely one of them is way out on its calibration/set-up. Also comparing at the wheels figures with flywheel figures makes no sense as one has assumed losses lumped on.
Dont flame me for this but looking in from a non TVR point of view I would say there seems a slight lack of transparency when it comes to tuning TVR's, as mentioned above its a money maker and within reason the tuners inputs can affect the outcome,
can anyone confirm for comparison purposes the results from an engine bench type dyno versus a rolling road calculated fly figure? for example with the nobles we map them on track'n'road dyno in essex, which has been proven to be within 1% of the mountune workshop dyno bench on a 600bhp engine flywheel power. It would clear up a lot of questions if there was a similar test with these, maybe there has been???
Graham
I completely agree - it is an idea that has been mooted before, but never come to fruition. Dont flame me for this but looking in from a non TVR point of view I would say there seems a slight lack of transparency when it comes to tuning TVR's, as mentioned above its a money maker and within reason the tuners inputs can affect the outcome,
can anyone confirm for comparison purposes the results from an engine bench type dyno versus a rolling road calculated fly figure? for example with the nobles we map them on track'n'road dyno in essex, which has been proven to be within 1% of the mountune workshop dyno bench on a 600bhp engine flywheel power. It would clear up a lot of questions if there was a similar test with these, maybe there has been???
Graham
But as Getsis said earlier on in the thread (I think!), the Power at the wheel figure and the Surrey Rolling Road 'fly' figure are within 1 bhp of each other - on his car, the runs done a day apart.
We also have the problem of a 'home' rolling road operator not giving the car a full go (as has been alleged on here before) - so an independent shoot-out would be good.
Have a look at this thread. It states that the figures that Power gives at the wheels is the same (within 1hp) of the numbers that SRR give. This is from an independent.... http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
/\ IS an interesting link. It's seven years old though - what has happened in that time? What kind of costs are we looking at? (God this is going to hurt me).
Back to the car - the engine is coming more and more into its own. It's a perfect engine for the floor-hinged pedal IMHO. IF you want to go mad, put the foot down, keep it there and it goes nuts! If you want to pootle around, then it will do that too.
(Oh, is that a set of 888's in the garage? I think it is!)
Now, suspension....
Back to the car - the engine is coming more and more into its own. It's a perfect engine for the floor-hinged pedal IMHO. IF you want to go mad, put the foot down, keep it there and it goes nuts! If you want to pootle around, then it will do that too.
(Oh, is that a set of 888's in the garage? I think it is!)
Now, suspension....
Flames are because of decats and a special map by Ryan at Syvecs. It's essentially a tunnel run map, not to be used a lot at all.
I used it today in the Hindhead (A3) tunnel - scared the crap out of myself with the noise, but magically the 50mph traffic in lane 2 cleared away into lane 1!
Well I have the full ACT system, and it is noisy. Have a look here at 31 seconds Supercar Event 2012.
Think double the volume of a standard Sag, but with more bass. It sounds like a few Harley-Davidsons together on tickover.
As for the decats - having seen them on RedSpikes Sag, I can definitely say that they are flamethrowers! Maybe not with the venom of these, but definitely there.
Think double the volume of a standard Sag, but with more bass. It sounds like a few Harley-Davidsons together on tickover.
As for the decats - having seen them on RedSpikes Sag, I can definitely say that they are flamethrowers! Maybe not with the venom of these, but definitely there.
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