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Don1
Original Poster
8,985 posts
77 months
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QED. 
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Hollowpockets
4,769 posts
85 months
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Albeit on a noble but it's still the same weight, track tyres wise I've experienced (in order worst to best) R1R's, 888's, AO48's and Trofeo's. Not considering cost of course, The Trofeo's give the best grip and feel, not far behind on grip are AO48's and they last longer, 888's are great but overheat too quickly and go off and my new R1R's fell apart on a dyno so won't be buying them again.
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Don1
Original Poster
8,985 posts
77 months
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That is very interesting to me - thank you. What power is the Noble putting out? Pirelli do those Tyres.
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Hollowpockets
4,769 posts
85 months
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Noble was putting out 611bhp until last Sunday on the nurburgring, think I killed the main crank bearing but awaiting diagnosis.
Gutted as I'd just started the day with a 8:16 on low boost (500bhp), an 8:07 lap with several hold ups, was looking like i was on for a 7:50ish with a clear first half till I needed to dodge Subaru debris and got held up by a fire blade. The magic sub 8 minute lap still awaits.
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ShiDevil
1,203 posts
43 months
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My mate Tuxman runs Toyos on his 612 BHP Noble and tracks in Spa, Silverstone etc
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Hollowpockets
4,769 posts
85 months
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ShiDevil said: My mate Tuxman runs Toyos on his 612 BHP Noble and tracks in Spa, Silverstone etc Was out with him at Spa, great car but he was too scared to press the button  and stuck to low boost. (his car drove home though lol)
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ShiDevil
1,203 posts
43 months
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Hollowpockets said: Was out with him at Spa, great car but he was too scared to press the button and stuck to low boost. (his car drove home though lol) Heh, yeah he mentioned that we spent a day getting his engine back in, listenng for noises, so i guess he wary at moment. He lives down road from me, so I keep prodding him for a passenger ride  Andygt let me have a spin in his last year in Le Mans on high boost, eeeeeek, wheel spinning at 100mph was energising
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MPETT
686 posts
75 months
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Don1 said: Well Ryan from Syvecs has just finished remapping the car after running in.  Headline figures of 443bhp & 358lb/ft. Is that at the wheels HP or calculated HP at the flywheel BTW?
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Don1
Original Poster
8,985 posts
77 months
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At the fly, around the 390 mark at the wheels I think? (Could be wrong though).
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DonkeyApple
12,017 posts
38 months
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Don1 said: At the fly, around the 390 mark at the wheels I think? (Could be wrong though). I think Vixpy says that the SRR at the fly numbers equate to the Power at the wheels numbers due to the different types of dyno?
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RedSpike66
1,970 posts
81 months
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DonkeyApple said: I think Vixpy says that the SRR at the fly numbers equate to the Power at the wheels numbers due to the different types of dyno? I can 100% confirm that TVR Power 'At the Wheels' figures match SRR 'Flywheel' figures.
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collingbroon
333 posts
60 months
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I work that out at about 378hp at the wheels 
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blackiepaul
1,641 posts
63 months
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Don1 said: To be fair it could be me needing to re-learn the car - especially as I'm arriving at corners far faster than I normally would have! But then again, I am one of very few people who say that the 19" Jade wheel gives a much better feeling over the spiders, so it could be horses for courses and let's see what happens! Let me have a drive and try it out for you I can not see how 19's would be better on the car - especially on track?
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collingbroon
333 posts
60 months
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Just for comparison purposes my mate with a 4.5 power sagaris is getting 460hp at the fly, so really good for a 4 litre.
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VARLEYHYD
2,108 posts
76 months
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BCA said: spitfire4v8 said: 3 way dampers means the possibility of 3 times the opportunity to get it wrong at each end. If you don't know how 3 ways work, buy one way dampers. Graham has been badly advised, or given insufficient tuition on how to set them up. It's not the fault of the dampers. One for Graham too... Basically, stick with it Graham, its a long and fun learning curve! Enjoy! No problem with the dampers or the knowledge etc. The bump stops and ride heights still need fine tuning (so 5 times to get it wrong, then) It is near perfect on the road, so that ticks box for 90% of folks; In fact, can carry 15%+ more speed in compression at present without bottoming on B roads. It's just the getting the track use sorted, and the bump stops take a pounding on the mountain at Cadwell. Purely for the reason I wanted to get the best out of the trackday without playing with my shocks, it may have come over I had problems, and preffered the standard Billys, but No it was just i wanted all fun track time and not fiddling and on that day. I will update on a separate thread, sometime. G
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spitfire4v8
1,307 posts
50 months
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That's good Graham .. Mike up there ^^ said you were having all sorts of problems.. Car looked fine though on track so not too many problems then
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Don1
Original Poster
8,985 posts
77 months
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collingbroon said: Just for comparison purposes my mate with a 4.5 power sagaris is getting 460hp at the fly, so really good for a 4 litre. Really? I think a few people round here might ask where the rest of their horses have gone then!  blackiepaul said: Let me have a drive and try it out for you I can not see how 19's would be better on the car - especially on track? Ha - but then again, you are one of the few people I could ever possibly trust with my Sag. As for the 19" thing - it's bizarre. It really is, but I'm not the only one who says this. It shouldn't work, it really shouldn't. It's goes against everything we know and understand. But it hits a real sweet spot, and it really works. I'm wondering if its the rigidity of the wheel?
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DonkeyApple
12,017 posts
38 months
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Don1 said: Ha - but then again, you are one of the few people I could ever possibly trust with my Sag.
As for the 19" thing - it's bizarre. It really is, but I'm not the only one who says this. It shouldn't work, it really shouldn't. It's goes against everything we know and understand. But it hits a real sweet spot, and it really works. I'm wondering if its the rigidity of the wheel? I genuinely know very very little of the mechanics of wheel/suspension set up beyond the basics. So this could be utterly meaningless: My Typhon, I believe, runs on 19s as did the T400 race cars. The front wishbone set up on the Saggy, which am I right is different from all the T cars and is wider in track? Was taken from what I gleaned at the factory from the T400/Typhons. Certainly the timings are correct as PW began the Sagaris after the first T400 racers had been developed and the original intention of the Sag was to replace the Tuscan Racer as well as being a road car? TVR invested more specialist time in developing the T400 for the circuit than on any other TVR. This was a more serious project than any of their previous. So, if the T400 front set up was designed to be optimum on 19s for racing and this same set up was migrated over to the Sag as that was also intended for racing and they knew the standard T car set up wasn't perfect, could it be that the Sag does behave well with the larger weight/mass of the larger wheels? Mine does run higher profile tyres which make the whole wheel set up larger in radius than the Sag which is why the gearing feels that bit longer.
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RedSpike66
1,970 posts
81 months
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spitfire4v8 said: That's good Graham .. Mike up there ^^ said you were having all sorts of problems.. Car looked fine though on track so not too many problems then Apologies if it sounded like that ^^^^^. G just gave me the impression they were taking a bit of experimentation setting up, not that they were 'causing all sorts of problems' I would not like to mis-quote Graham - he knows what he's doing !!
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Getsis
1,314 posts
85 months
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RedSpike66 said: I can 100% confirm that TVR Power 'At the Wheels' figures match SRR 'Flywheel' figures. So who is correct?
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