RND power output 364bhp

RND power output 364bhp

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Don1

15,949 posts

208 months

Sunday 31st May 2015
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V8 GRF said:
You haven't any idea of what the full facts are so you can't comment.

I'm not going to get into any discussion with people on this I only posted as I got fed up with people who post and base their 'opinions' on untruths and biased one sided stories on subjects that in reality they know nothing about.
It is very strange that you only do this for this company, and no others.

donski

343 posts

158 months

Sunday 31st May 2015
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Don1 said:
It is very strange that you only do this for this company, and no others.
There are a lot of untruths out there directed at the company in question Don1 I guess they need some backing more than others.


m4tti

5,427 posts

155 months

Sunday 31st May 2015
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V8 GRF said:
Gazzab said:
Yeah like that's true.
You haven't any idea of what the full facts are so you can't comment.

I'm not going to get into any discussion with people on this I only posted as I got fed up with people who post and base their 'opinions' on untruths and biased one sided stories on subjects that in reality they know nothing about.
Dave you are naughty... rofl

Let's review the magic on post 16 of this thread biggrin
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

TA14

12,722 posts

258 months

Monday 1st June 2015
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V8 GRF said:
I don't think it's shipped.

But to make it clear, for you guys who are so interested, this delay has nothing to do with RND and hasn't for the last 6 months or so. RND finished their part of the project and supplied all the parts months ago. It's now exclusively down to the engine builder (SW based) to finish the build and ship it.

Indeed they owe RND money which won't be paid until it ships so they're as keen as anyone to see it delivered.
So AIUI the engine is now with Devon Racing who are RND's recommended fitting agents.

Edited by TA14 on Monday 1st June 13:34

Don1

15,949 posts

208 months

Monday 1st June 2015
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donski said:
There are a lot of untruths out there directed at the company in question Don1 I guess they need some backing more than others.
OK, I can accept that - but there are other companies in this TVR world that have straight lies told about them and I don't see the deputy editor of Sprint coming up and supporting them on these forums?

V8 GRF

7,294 posts

210 months

Monday 1st June 2015
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Don1 said:
donski said:
There are a lot of untruths out there directed at the company in question Don1 I guess they need some backing more than others.
OK, I can accept that - but there are other companies in this TVR world that have straight lies told about them and I don't see the deputy editor of Sprint coming up and supporting them on these forums?
I post my personal opinions, I just happen to be the deputy editor of Sprint and in print we support ALL TVR related business without any bias for the benefit of the club members.
As I've said above I only post where I know both sides of the argument and in this case I do. As pointed out by donski other businesses have plenty of supporters and I rarely know both sides of the story so I don't comment.

I wish I hadn't bothered here but I just got fed up of seeing all the bile being directed in one direction.

m4tti

5,427 posts

155 months

Monday 1st June 2015
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That's all good and well but in the case of the engine destined for the states, dis-connecting themselves from the build process and dissolving all responsibility is weak business practice. If it were my business I would have been down to the builder in question with a van and packed the whole lot up and found a different partner to complete the build with. It seems the interest of the customer here is very much last place.

Add too that the boo hoo story of them not being paid for the parts looks even worse, this should be the last thing this supplier should concern themselves with. The customer and the resulting feedback and publicity on here should be their top priority. Hence why the approach I've outlined above should have been adopted.

Right now they look faintly ridiculous.

dpd3047

250 posts

166 months

Monday 1st June 2015
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Ive decided to post to address the few protaganists and the vendetta that seems to be going against me and my company.First off I`ve never posted nasty comments about anyone i`ve always tried to just be helpful or informative with technical information.
My company has stood by all or any warranty work. I have never been taken to court or received solicitors letters, every company has its problems at sometime,we`re not all perfect, as many people seem to think and there are some who seem to think there perfect and things never go wrong well they do.When they do all you can do is sort them out. There are people on here who have blatantly lied about me personally and my company.Many of you dont know even know me its mostly hearsay. if you want to know anything have the balls to ring me up and ask me instead coming on hear like a load of old washer woman having a dig. Dealings between my customers and myself i treat as confidential and i feel it is nothing to do with any third party.
I do not believe this is what PH was set up for.
Dave 07910 384591

TA14

12,722 posts

258 months

Monday 1st June 2015
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dpd3047 said:
load of old washer woman having a dig.
completely off topic but just having read 'The Faraway Tree' to my daughter that made me laugh smile

ShiDevil

2,292 posts

174 months

Monday 1st June 2015
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dpd3047 said:
Ive decided to post to address the few protaganists and the vendetta that seems to be going against me and my company.First off I`ve never posted nasty comments about anyone i`ve always tried to just be helpful or informative with technical information.
My company has stood by all or any warranty work. I have never been taken to court or received solicitors letters, every company has its problems at sometime,we`re not all perfect, as many people seem to think and there are some who seem to think there perfect and things never go wrong well they do.When they do all you can do is sort them out. There are people on here who have blatantly lied about me personally and my company.Many of you dont know even know me its mostly hearsay. if you want to know anything have the balls to ring me up and ask me instead coming on hear like a load of old washer woman having a dig. Dealings between my customers and myself i treat as confidential and i feel it is nothing to do with any third party.
I do not believe this is what PH was set up for.
Dave 07910 384591
Nice to hear from you Dave. Always good to have alternatives for the TVR and looking forward to some case studies of your projects in the future smile Are you intending to do any as I am sure we will all be interested to see the work you do smile Your websites a little complicated for me to navigate and work out so it might be worth looking at that too as I am sure that would help in reaching out to potential customers smile

Mickywoosh

50 posts

155 months

Monday 1st June 2015
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Well done Dave, nice to see an honest response. I have watched this vendetta waged by a small minority over the past 12 months and it has been grossly unfair. One persons view of a bad experience does not constitute a public sustained flogging that can ruin a business. Clearly, some people have nothing better to do!!

Speaking from personal experience, RND rebuilt my engine and undertook a large amount of additional work to my car to a high specification. The car was delivered back to me a few months ago and the new engine is running extremely smoothly with a significant increase in power and torque. Technically, Dave's engineering knowledge has always impressed and I am confident in the product having now driven the car 2000 miles since completion without a hitch.

Whilst I accept RND has had issues in delivering cars back to customers within given timescales, Devon works at a different pace and patience is a wonderful thing sometimes - we're not all in a huge rush!! The TVR community can only benefit from having options for engine rebuilds and a progression of engineering solutions to the Speed Sixe's well known shortcomings. RND offers a range of high quality of components at a reasonable price. I won't name names, but the other options are significantly more expensive with no additional benefits.

I hope my experience balances some of the negative feedback that's been going on and other customers seriously consider RND as an option.

dvs_dave

8,627 posts

225 months

Monday 1st June 2015
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I'm not going to go down the Sycophancy route here as it's just cringe worthy.

It's good to finally have a response from RND albeit a meaningless one.

This is their core customer base here. A quick google of "RND TVR" brings up this thread and a couple of others as top results, and they're all full of bad information about RND/Autocraft. But what's really hurting them is that no worthwhile attempt has ever been made to justify, dispel or put right any of the considerable negative press shared which speaks volumes.

I don't want to come across as a fan boy, but look at how Dom from Power has dealt with dirty laundry thrown his way. He's publicly taken ownership, put things right, and customers have left happy and singing his praises. Why don't RND do the same? I think we all know why...

coco79

390 posts

174 months

Monday 1st June 2015
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Mickywoosh said:
Well done Dave, nice to see an honest response. I have watched this vendetta waged by a small minority over the past 12 months and it has been grossly unfair. One persons view of a bad experience does not constitute a public sustained flogging that can ruin a business. Clearly, some people have nothing better to do!!

Speaking from personal experience, RND rebuilt my engine and undertook a large amount of additional work to my car to a high specification. The car was delivered back to me a few months ago and the new engine is running extremely smoothly with a significant increase in power and torque. Technically, Dave's engineering knowledge has always impressed and I am confident in the product having now driven the car 2000 miles since completion without a hitch.

Whilst I accept RND has had issues in delivering cars back to customers within given timescales, Devon works at a different pace and patience is a wonderful thing sometimes - we're not all in a huge rush!! The TVR community can only benefit from having options for engine rebuilds and a progression of engineering solutions to the Speed Sixe's well known shortcomings. RND offers a range of high quality of components at a reasonable price. I won't name names, but the other options are significantly more expensive with no additional benefits.

I hope my experience balances some of the negative feedback that's been going on and other customers seriously consider RND as an option.
I completely agree with the comment above. I have also had a high specification rebuild carried out by RND/Devon Racing, which incidentally was finalised the end of last week (rebored to 4.1, Stage 3 race ported heads, GT-HO Cams, OMEX, bespoke manifold and exhaust, remap etc.), like any project of this nature, 'patience' is the key (yes at times it can be tested and was). My choice was dictated by Dave's technical expertise and informative nature, along with innovation and value for money (compared to other engine builders, as mentioned - options are significantly more expensive with little additional benefits).

The rebuild has completely transformed the car - it's retained the SP6 character, whilst being smoother to drive and simply mental in performance! I've driven almost 6,000 faultless miles.biggrin

spitfire4v8

3,992 posts

181 months

Monday 1st June 2015
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I don't know if DD has come on as a result of the conversation we had earlier in the day, but I mentioned to him about how Dom comes on and puts his point across .. love him or hate him you know where you stand with Dom and that's a good thing IMO.

gacksen

680 posts

143 months

Tuesday 2nd June 2015
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dvs_dave said:
A quick google of "RND TVR" brings up this thread and a couple of others as top results, and they're all full of bad information about RND/Autocraft. But what's really hurting them is that no worthwhile attempt has ever been made to justify, dispel or put right any of the considerable negative press shared which speaks volumes.
those threads are as old as two pictures of a valve shim posted in another thread. in comparison to powers there
seems to be a lack in communication. on the other hand if you ask powers specific questions you wont hear a single word too.
so not that much of a difference.

if all those things in the old threads are right why didn´t somebody come up with a court case ? havent read anything about that.


spitfire4v8

3,992 posts

181 months

Tuesday 2nd June 2015
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Solicitors are expensive, and if it's not a clear cut case there's no guarantee of winning. You can soon rack up expenses in excess of the price of the parts you're selling. Sometimes court isn't the way to go, doesn't mean you're not right, just it's uneconomical to pursue.

TA14

12,722 posts

258 months

Tuesday 2nd June 2015
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spitfire4v8 said:
Solicitors are expensive, and if it's not a clear cut case there's no guarantee of winning. You can soon rack up expenses in excess of the price of the parts you're selling. Sometimes court isn't the way to go, doesn't mean you're not right, just it's uneconomical to pursue.
and if you're a customer there's little point in chasing a company that hasn't any money/does not exist.

chris watton

22,477 posts

260 months

Tuesday 2nd June 2015
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spitfire4v8 said:
Solicitors are expensive, and if it's not a clear cut case there's no guarantee of winning. You can soon rack up expenses in excess of the price of the parts you're selling. Sometimes court isn't the way to go, doesn't mean you're not right, just it's uneconomical to pursue.
I agree, and speak from experience. if you get lawyers involved, then usually (read - always) the only winners (financially) are the lawyers, even if you have a clear-cut case.

gacksen

680 posts

143 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2015
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didn´t thought that would a problem those days due to legal expenses insurance.
one of the most usefull things i pay yearly money to and except of 150.00 euros
intital fee per case no further costs involved except of yearly rate of 225 euros.

they helped out a lot. bought an engine for an audi from a breaker. as it turned out
engine different milage etc. breaker refused to take it back ...... court helped.
ebay notebook not delivered and several hundred euros gone. have a title against
the guy and sooner or later he will get some cash going. if not of course money is gone.

but back on topic whose broken engine or whatsoever case with RND is not settled ?
as the mentioned threads are old......

coetzeeh

2,648 posts

236 months

Wednesday 3rd June 2015
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TA14 said:
spitfire4v8 said:
Solicitors are expensive, and if it's not a clear cut case there's no guarantee of winning. You can soon rack up expenses in excess of the price of the parts you're selling. Sometimes court isn't the way to go, doesn't mean you're not right, just it's uneconomical to pursue.
and if you're a customer there's little point in chasing a company that hasn't any money/does not exist.
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