Quieter speed six engine

Quieter speed six engine

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Ant.

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5,254 posts

281 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2014
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Is the Speed six engine ever quiet?

By quiet I mean free from top end noise, mine I suspect, suffers from valve guide wear, it gets louder as the temps go up.
But it makes on the nose power at 349.8 for a 3.6 (Kitsandclassics dyno), uses very little oil ,so for now it just gets driven.

I appreciate there is always going to be some chains noises etc, but does refurbing the head equal a less rattly engine?

Thoughts?

scruggs

419 posts

166 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2014
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My Mk1 Tuscan sounds like fifty skeletons fornicating in an aluminium dustbin until it warms up a bit. Although after that it is never quiet and always has some timing chain rattles going on. Like you there is little or no oil used so i am living with it (the exhaust drowns a lot of it out)

Edited by scruggs on Tuesday 22 July 15:20

V8 GRF

7,294 posts

210 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2014
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scruggs said:
My Mk1 Tuscan sounds like fifty skeletons fornicating in an aluminium dustbin until it warms up a bit.
Excellent description hehe

Milky400

1,960 posts

178 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2014
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Must admit mines very quiet on start up with little or no rattley valves.

Only time you can hear valve noise is when is very hot, guess the oil is at its thinnest then.

Previous one I had (that I soon returned) you could hear the valve noise bulkhead even on a motor way, and that was de catted. Most noticeable was a 1800-2100 rpm. It also burnt plenty of oil and smoked ( sir, they all do that, it's the highly tuned 4 litre engine)

Billiam

135 posts

122 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2014
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scruggs said:
My Mk1 Tuscan sounds like fifty skeletons fornicating in an aluminium dustbin until it warms up a bit.
Second thumbs up on this brilliant description... cool

Don1

15,939 posts

208 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2014
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There is one answer, but it's really not going to be popular amongst the faithful.

Racing Greens FFF. It is that quiet, smooth and powerful. Everything else you can decide on.

m4tti

5,427 posts

155 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2014
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The FFF is astoundingly quiet compared to regular speed six. When I took the demonstrator out earlier this year, I was given the keys to start it. I started the engine and was so stunned at how quiet it was I got back out in the rain in disbelief... leaning down over the bonnet to try and hear the usual clangers going on, but its simply not there.

You get a BMW level of noise up the front and a TVR noise out the back...

I liked it so much, Ive done this..



Like Don says the faithful may not like it... I must be one of the speed six faithless

Edited by m4tti on Wednesday 23 July 08:53


Edited by m4tti on Wednesday 23 July 09:00

Ant.

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5,254 posts

281 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2014
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I have just had a look at the FFF price, if you build that in as part of a DIY engine rebuild it isnt that bad.
yes, you would be up over the cost of a std rebuild at one of the indies, but most of the cost of a rebuild must be labour and the cylinder head anyway.

m4tti

5,427 posts

155 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2014
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Ant. said:
I have just had a look at the FFF price, if you build that in as part of a DIY engine rebuild it isnt that bad.
yes, you would be up over the cost of a std rebuild at one of the indies, but most of the cost of a rebuild must be labour and the cylinder head anyway.
I very much doubt that any of the std rebuilds come in at the advertised cost... a major chunk of the time is taking the engine out and putting it back, which is pretty tedious.



Ant.

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5,254 posts

281 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2014
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m4tti said:
I very much doubt that any of the std rebuilds come in at the advertised cost... a major chunk of the time is taking the engine out and putting it back, which is pretty tedious.
Precisely, sorry but I would never pay someone else to take my TVR engine out....

scruggs

419 posts

166 months

Wednesday 23rd July 2014
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V8 GRF said:
Excellent description hehe
Damn, every time I start up the Tuscan I get this disturbing mental image.....eek

330p4

668 posts

230 months

Sunday 27th July 2014
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Ant there always seems to be some top end noise due to the valve train set up also if your engine is producing full power and using very little oil would think the valve guides are OK as any wear would mean the valves were not seating properly and oil would be running down the guide and being burnt in the combustion chamber like the old lotus twin am did as it had no valve stem oil seals and that was with good guides
Ian

BlackpoolRock

1,183 posts

152 months

Tuesday 29th July 2014
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Don1 said:
There is one answer, but it's really not going to be popular amongst the faithful.

Racing Greens FFF. It is that quiet, smooth and powerful. Everything else you can decide on.
As Don says if that's what you're after the FFF is much quieter in that sense.