Is the extra coolant tank advisable if engine upgraded?
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chris watton said:
Someone did say that ceramic coating the cats wasn't a good idea - is that right?
Have to be careful, have £12k to play with, not £20k - I know I was charged a small fortune just to have the TB gaskets changed, while the TB's were off, so have to be very careful with the labour charges...
12k should cover at least 1/2 of it.Have to be careful, have £12k to play with, not £20k - I know I was charged a small fortune just to have the TB gaskets changed, while the TB's were off, so have to be very careful with the labour charges...
I have heard the same thing regarding cats but am not convinved. Either they cope with the exhaust gas temparatures, or they don't. It isn't going to get any hotter than the gas flowing through it, which most of the matrix will be at. I can't imagine the cooling effect from outside is significant other that at the edges.
Rather than get new cats as default, have the old ones inspected at the start of the work and then you can decide. If they are good, no reason to change.
It is still perfectly possible to melt cats on a stock engine as my Tamora has shown.
http://www.sevenman.co.uk/?p=543
Why don't you get power to do you an estimate with everything you could possibly want, then if it goes over prioritise the list and knock of the items with the lowest priority.
At the moment all your doing is guessing. You may find certain bits are just the part cost with the engine out.
At the moment all your doing is guessing. You may find certain bits are just the part cost with the engine out.
Edited by m4tti on Friday 3rd October 15:33
chris watton said:
Hmm, I think I had better stick to the 6.7 upgrade, new silicone hoses and rad, engine mounts, and polished everything....
and ECU with wideband Lamba and knock detection?I had the rad and hoses done by Power. Seems to work well and wasn't too expensive (compared to property prices in Kensington).
Just got a simple solution to your problems.....
Sell yours and buy this
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I guess the colour is a bit boring
Sell yours and buy this
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I guess the colour is a bit boring
glow worm said:
Just got a simple solution to your problems.....
Sell yours and buy this
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I guess the colour is a bit boring
Wow 460bhp Sell yours and buy this
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I guess the colour is a bit boring
m4tti said:
Basil when you say tune the sound are you talking in terms of the volume or pitch. I'd love to find someone who knew what they did to achieve this sound....
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=75LyzP_PFjI
It's side exit, but they're must be more going on with the exhaust pulse.
Both really. I messed about with can size and amount of open perforations as I hate the raspy sound from decat and fully sleeved cans.http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=75LyzP_PFjI
It's side exit, but they're must be more going on with the exhaust pulse.
chris watton said:
Are they as good as OEM though? I worry when buying stuff from EBay, especially something that could bork the engine if it fails...
Can't imagine there are many companies making them to fit Tuscan...so could well be identical to the so called OEM ones (guessing). Unless of course they were donored from another car but I didn't find any x-ref so I suspect they are bespoke for TVR ? To my eye, they are every bit as good the originals that came off. They were covered with the usual "EU" type paper stickers you get on new exhaust pipes, with approvals ratings, part codes etc. Looked pretty pukka to me. And they work fine (passed emissions no prob). Honeycomb mesh looks good and solid and interestingly is deliberately spaced away from the steel side-walls so suspect they run a little cooler on the outside...maybeOr as John says, just take-em out
chris watton said:
Someone did say that ceramic coating the cats wasn't a good idea - is that right?
Have to be careful, have £12k to play with, not £20k - I know I was charged a small fortune just to have the TB gaskets changed, while the TB's were off, so have to be very careful with the labour charges...
Dom will only warranty his rebuild with his approved Cats or none.Have to be careful, have £12k to play with, not £20k - I know I was charged a small fortune just to have the TB gaskets changed, while the TB's were off, so have to be very careful with the labour charges...
glow worm said:
chris watton said:
Someone did say that ceramic coating the cats wasn't a good idea - is that right?
Have to be careful, have £12k to play with, not £20k - I know I was charged a small fortune just to have the TB gaskets changed, while the TB's were off, so have to be very careful with the labour charges...
Dom will only warranty his rebuild with his approved Cats or none.Have to be careful, have £12k to play with, not £20k - I know I was charged a small fortune just to have the TB gaskets changed, while the TB's were off, so have to be very careful with the labour charges...
So, if I wanted to have the cats changed (or they needed changing after inspection), I would have to buy Dom's stock, rather than the £600 per pair OEM from HHC?
It is increasingly looking like I will have the upgrade, rad and hoses and nothing more - but I will email Dom nearer the time to ask for a complete price breakdown of what I want.
For me, I figured the important upgrades to go with the engine will be coolant system and ensuring cats and lambdas are in tip-top condition.
As my clutch seems perfectly fine, I may even not have that changed, but buy the clutch, flywheel and slave cylinder kit afterwards, along with new speed transducer, and have them fitted at David Geralds, and while the gearbox is out, get Readman Racing to pick it up and upgrade it to CR - about £3-3.5k in all. But I could have this done later.
I am now assuming the extra coolant tank isn't really needed....
Edited by chris watton on Monday 6th October 09:44
billynobrakes said:
Chris
Why don't you email , Dom now and ask him what he recommends based on your budget, he does know what he is talking about
Don't forget you get a warranty
I will - I just wanted to know anyone's experiences and costs of adding the extra expansion tank (initially..).Why don't you email , Dom now and ask him what he recommends based on your budget, he does know what he is talking about
Don't forget you get a warranty
From what I gather, it's not too necessary.
Will certainly ask Dom's advice regarding cats, though..
I would not worry too much about extra expansion tank, Dom has designed his engines too destruction, that's why he offers such a good warranty
The problem posting on here is there will be people with their own ideas, which is fair enough but you need to speak direct to Dom, as I said tell him your budget
Don,t forget the price of the 4.3 does not include large injectors and heavy duty starter motor which is about £1000 so that takes it to about £9500 plus you need to allow for unforeseen things, you might need a new clutch etc so allow another £1000 that takes it up to £10,500, I would put new silicon hoses with fitting is about £350, so your £12,000 budget is getting near, have you factored in the 1000 mile service after it has been run in which is about another £500
The problem posting on here is there will be people with their own ideas, which is fair enough but you need to speak direct to Dom, as I said tell him your budget
Don,t forget the price of the 4.3 does not include large injectors and heavy duty starter motor which is about £1000 so that takes it to about £9500 plus you need to allow for unforeseen things, you might need a new clutch etc so allow another £1000 that takes it up to £10,500, I would put new silicon hoses with fitting is about £350, so your £12,000 budget is getting near, have you factored in the 1000 mile service after it has been run in which is about another £500
billynobrakes said:
I would not worry too much about extra expansion tank, Dom has designed his engines too destruction, that's why he offers such a good warranty
The problem posting on here is there will be people with their own ideas, which is fair enough but you need to speak direct to Dom, as I said tell him your budget
Don,t forget the price of the 4.3 does not include large injectors and heavy duty starter motor which is about £1000 so that takes it to about £9500 plus you need to allow for unforeseen things, you might need a new clutch etc so allow another £1000 that takes it up to £10,500, I would put new silicon hoses with fitting is about £350, so your £12,000 budget is getting near, have you factored in the 1000 mile service after it has been run in which is about another £500
Cheers, I know the basic upgrade is just over £9.3k (including the starter and injectors). I am not too bothered about the clutch for now, as I plan to have the gearbox refurbed and CR gears added anyway - so it's gonna come out again at some point. I will order the SS pipes, silicon hoses from ACT, and the rad from here:The problem posting on here is there will be people with their own ideas, which is fair enough but you need to speak direct to Dom, as I said tell him your budget
Don,t forget the price of the 4.3 does not include large injectors and heavy duty starter motor which is about £1000 so that takes it to about £9500 plus you need to allow for unforeseen things, you might need a new clutch etc so allow another £1000 that takes it up to £10,500, I would put new silicon hoses with fitting is about £350, so your £12,000 budget is getting near, have you factored in the 1000 mile service after it has been run in which is about another £500
http://www.aaronradiator.co.uk/catalog/TVR_radiato...
So all I'll need extra from Dom are engine mounts (which I assume will need changing) and perhaps new connectors on the rad fans. That's the plan, anyway.
How old is your clutch ?
Chris
Trust me on this, once Dom takes your engine out to upgrade it there will be things that need doing to coup with the extra power and some things that have worn out
No point in getting a big engine put in and spend all that money then a week later something brakes and it's back with Dom
Chris
Trust me on this, once Dom takes your engine out to upgrade it there will be things that need doing to coup with the extra power and some things that have worn out
No point in getting a big engine put in and spend all that money then a week later something brakes and it's back with Dom
billynobrakes said:
How old is your clutch ?
Chris
Trust me on this, once Dom takes your engine out to upgrade it there will be things that need doing to coup with the extra power and some things that have worn out
No point in getting a big engine put in and spend all that money then a week later something brakes and it's back with Dom
I don't know how old the current clutch is, to be honest - but I figured that, if I have the 4.3 done in around December time, as I understand it, there is then a 1000 mile run-in period where you can't go above 3k rpm (is that right)?Chris
Trust me on this, once Dom takes your engine out to upgrade it there will be things that need doing to coup with the extra power and some things that have worn out
No point in getting a big engine put in and spend all that money then a week later something brakes and it's back with Dom
Over the Winder months, I will not cover that run-in mileage, so am assuming it would be perhaps March before I have the service - and by that time, I'll have more than enough savings to cover remaining upgrades, like gearbox, clutch (if not done before), new tyres (40's on the front) and finally, the icing on the cake, a full geo set-up to help sort my new crappy Nitrons.
That's the plan, anyway - and barring me being out of a job in the meantime, I'll stick to it..
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