Engine re-build...bit by bit. Possible?

Engine re-build...bit by bit. Possible?

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donutsina911

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1,049 posts

183 months

Wednesday 15th October 2014
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Hi All,

Shortly to collect a well used Tuscan S. For my own sanity, I'm looking at a full rebuild from one of the usual suspects, but a little research shows that the headline price (which is out of my range in one hit anyway) is unlikely to be the final bill!

Is it possible to do a rebuild step by step in a vaguely economical way, in something like £1k chunks? And if so, in what order?

Any help appreciated!

m4tti

5,426 posts

154 months

Wednesday 15th October 2014
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Short answer is no, as they will want to remove the engine completely each time which, in itself will set you back approx 1k+ each time.

donutsina911

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183 months

Wednesday 15th October 2014
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m4tti said:
Short answer is no, as they will want to remove the engine completely each time which, in itself will set you back approx 1k+ each time.
Ouch. So it's a case of saving up and praying in the meantime. Thank you!

m4tti

5,426 posts

154 months

Wednesday 15th October 2014
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You could probably take preparatory steps like acquiring new oil hoses, clutch etc bit by bit to lessen the ultimate bill slightly, but then you may lose any discount you may get on those items doing it all in one hit from one supplier. Realistically budget about 8k for a standard rebuild.

alandigby

85 posts

271 months

Wednesday 15th October 2014
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Does anyone know the rough cost of an LS7 conversion (or similar conversions), for comparison?

donutsina911

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183 months

Wednesday 15th October 2014
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m4tti said:
You could probably take preparatory steps like acquiring new oil hoses, clutch etc bit by bit to lessen the ultimate bill slightly, but then you may lose any discount you may get on those items doing it all in one hit from one supplier. Realistically budget about 8k for a standard rebuild.
Eight grand...st the bed. May be some time then!

gacksen

680 posts

142 months

Wednesday 15th October 2014
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around 20k pounds for an ls1 if remember correctly..... ls7 for sure some more top dollars wink

Pursyluv

1,927 posts

173 months

Wednesday 15th October 2014
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donutsina911 said:
Eight grand...st the bed. May be some time then!
Here is your starting point price wise:-

http://www.powersperformance.co.uk/upgrades/engine...


donutsina911

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Wednesday 15th October 2014
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Pursyluv said:
Here is your starting point price wise:-

http://www.powersperformance.co.uk/upgrades/engine...
Cheers. That was what I'd been looking at. Just wondered if it could be done in stages, but apparently not!

coetzeeh

2,641 posts

235 months

Wednesday 15th October 2014
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donutsina911 said:
Hi All,

Shortly to collect a well used Tuscan S. For my own sanity, I'm looking at a full rebuild from one of the usual suspects, but a little research shows that the headline price (which is out of my range in one hit anyway) is unlikely to be the final bill!

Is it possible to do a rebuild step by step in a vaguely economical way, in something like £1k chunks? And if so, in what order?

Any help appreciated!
Get one of the reputable specialists to give you an honest opinion on the state of your engine before you decide on taking the plunge.

chris watton

22,477 posts

259 months

Wednesday 15th October 2014
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donutsina911 said:
Pursyluv said:
Here is your starting point price wise:-

http://www.powersperformance.co.uk/upgrades/engine...
Cheers. That was what I'd been looking at. Just wondered if it could be done in stages, but apparently not!
I think it is best to save up and have it done all in one go, while the engine's out - clutch, flywheel, cooling system (new aluminium rad, SS pipes and silicone hoses), engine mounts etc..

Having said that, when I had my throttle bodies refurbed, I thought I'd have the gaskets changed at the same time, as it should save on having to take the bodies off a second time - not a chance, I still paid a small fortune to have them changed - even though the throttle bodies were already off!

Ask for a quote for everything upfront (like I didn't...), otherwise even the most reputable can milk you dry...

billynobrakes

2,675 posts

264 months

Wednesday 15th October 2014
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Cheers. That was what I'd been looking at. Just wondered if it could be done in stages, but apparently not

Why would you want it done in stages, not only would it be in and out of the garage, you would have to change the same gaskets over and over again, get charged to take the engine out every time does not make sense, then the wear would be different and the most important bit, you will not get a warranty on a part built engine

clive f

7,250 posts

232 months

Wednesday 15th October 2014
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are you mechanically minded and have the facilities to do the work yourself over the winter?

donutsina911

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Wednesday 15th October 2014
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billynobrakes said:
Cheers. That was what I'd been looking at. Just wondered if it could be done in stages, but apparently not

Why would you want it done in stages, not only would it be in and out of the garage, you would have to change the same gaskets over and over again, get charged to take the engine out every time does not make sense, then the wear would be different and the most important bit, you will not get a warranty on a part built engine
As per my original post, because I don't have £5,400+VAT lying around...

donutsina911

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Wednesday 15th October 2014
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clive f said:
are you mechanically minded and have the facilities to do the work yourself over the winter?
No and no smile

Milky400

1,960 posts

177 months

Wednesday 15th October 2014
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It's 5400 including vat. I can't understand how that can turn into over 8k.

billynobrakes

2,675 posts

264 months

Wednesday 15th October 2014
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donutsina911 said:
As per my original post, because I don't have £5,400+VAT lying around...
Sir

You asked a question I answered and gave good reasons you carry on and pay £1000 pounds when you can afford it,or just enjoy your car till it needs an engine rebuild and put by £1000 as and when you have it and hopefully by the time you have enough money saved up you can get the engine rebuilt with the usual suspects as per your original post

Good luck with your car and enjoy


donutsina911

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Wednesday 15th October 2014
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billynobrakes said:
donutsina911 said:
As per my original post, because I don't have £5,400+VAT lying around...
Sir

You asked a question I answered and gave good reasons you carry on and pay £1000 pounds when you can afford it,or just enjoy your car till it needs an engine rebuild and put by £1000 as and when you have it and hopefully by the time you have enough money saved up you can get the engine rebuilt with the usual suspects as per your original post

Good luck with your car and enjoy
No idea what you're on about....think the question was answered prior to your post., but thank you.

m4tti

5,426 posts

154 months

Wednesday 15th October 2014
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Milky400 said:
It's 5400 including vat. I can't understand how that can turn into over 8k.
Because that is the most basic rebuild they do. It still uses the original rods, it only includes homing the bores, which won't help if the liners need replacing. Then while the engines out you might aswell change the clutch.

Very quickly the 2.5k difference to 8k is used up.

m4tti

5,426 posts

154 months

Wednesday 15th October 2014
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Did racing green give you any indication of the engine health. To be honest I'd advise anyone buying one if these things to go in with a big fighting fund in reserve in case it goes tits up, even if it's a good one.