Anyone had a speed 6 TVR / Auto Craft Rebuild yet?
Discussion
Gaffer said:
TUSC-AL said:
Gaffer said:
TUSC-AL said:
Gaffer said:
If I were to get a SP6 car, I would take it to Dom @ Power
Claire
There's been several accounts of cars rebuilt at Power that have given up the ghost again within 5k.
Although the full Craft rebuild is yet to be a proven reliable engine, the top end cars seem
to be problem free which bodes well.
There is always two sides to every story so don't belive everything you hear (unless its from me
) Claire
Of course, but owners rarely make up these kind of stories, what would be the point?
TVR Powers close association to the mother company has as many bad as good conotations.
I feel happier knowing that my car (being a 2000 tuscan) will have all the styling cudos of TVR but with an independently engineered SP6 powering it.
I can't comment on the newer cars, they may be great/new improved/free from sin/best thing since sliced bread.
Isn't it time you took the leap to a Tuscan anyway?
Tuscan...? ummm maybe but I wont be selling Poser. Just need something else to complement her oh and the funds to be able to do that
DJC - no its definately walls, well an extension anyway, oh and there are plans for a hottub in the garden...!
Claire
Didnt know about the hot tub!
I thought tree house was a little strange, but hey, I was only half listening at the time and frankly it was Ravenscroft, it could have been anything!
SXS said:
john i said:
trackcar said:
johni and myself must have the same sort of brain functionality (or lack thereof) as i read his post and understood it first time .. thanks,most of the stuff written by those people can be heavy going i had to read some of it 3 or 4 times and still had to ask as a lot of it went over my head,smokey yanick has written 3 books,he is classed as must read if your into tunning,died awhile back,i like to read alot but i do find some of it hard going,another one for interesting reading by alan allard about super charging & turbo charging,anyway i think i have said enough
Andrew Graham and Allan Allard are well respected chaps, and I have the books and more. But I'm afraid there are others that go well above and beyond their knowledge. Books are books, what some tuners out there have achieved is another thing altogether. Not forgetting the 750+horses the yanks are pulling out of the NA SBC's powering the Nassers.
Theres a lot of science behind forced-induction, and Bugatti, Mercedes and Audi currently have it wrapped very nicely and have shown whats possible. FFS Mercedes have gone back to a SOHC-16 valve jobby on their Mc'SLR 1mill super.
But when it comes to NA engineering, thats when MAJOR science and engineering marvelry comes into play, getting an engine to pump every last hp at top volumetric efficiency and ample flow with efficient combustion is nothing simple - Ferrari been at it for years. You think a simple head job is all thats needed?
If you are gonna spend a lot on a 400bhp engine just on the head, then you're mad, why? Because theres the exhaust side to think about, theres the fuelling, theres the vacuum to take into account, soooo many variables - its not something to be taken lightly. Companies/top-tuners spend years and from 100s of 1000s to millions to get things right, you honestly think an outfit can deliver the world from a NA setup without even testing multiple engines and parameters on a dyno?
The point is, theres no point wasting dosh on something unless its 'proven' and supported by other similar work - to work hand in hand - the engine from the fuel tank through to the clutch is one big chain.
Exhaust, Intake, Fuelling, Ignition, Bottom-end, lubrication, top-end - the list goes on and on. One of the reasons why tuners like TopSecret's engines costs normally float around the 30k mark, and they're proven - on the strip, on the dyno.
You think TVR just sat around and did nothing with the SP6? The engine has progressed, better components etc. This engine is simple enough to work with, but a lot of what is being suggested to do here, is overkill for a 400bhp engine which rarely touches that if anything.
So why waste money?
The whole point behind a TVR is bang-for-buck - not to continually throw money at a modded engine which is unproven - its all about faith isnt it?
and in all honesty, trying to help keep costs down for the owners should be the number one thing. Which is why soooo many people are using Austec/APM/TVRPower because they now stock the newer components which are better as well as custom bits where needed if requested, because they are doing whats needed and thats it. Endof.
cant argue with most of that,I've just rebuilt my engine,carb,heads,exhaust,cam,at the end of the day an engine is just a pump,so the head was where i had most of the work done,as for speed six engines if i had to get one done,from what i can see i would not be looking for more power just get the thing reliable,I would get the head modded as per the one that was at wallop,as a lot of the mods were done to make the thing more reliable,and to give it more torque,there are alot of other mods i would make but thats just me,austec, craft,seem to be doing most of the work that the factory should be doing,be interesting to see how they all pan out,as for books what i like about alan alard is he explains things in words even i can understand,granted there are people who go alot further,I've also got books from the fifties and sixties on tuning i find them really interesting,just started reading on how to run dynos properly,as i got to get power figures on my engine as ph engineering like to keep figures of what they do,so i dont want to look too thick when its on the dyno,by the way i only mentiond about allan allard as its an interesting book to read not really to do with TVR's
SXS said:
john i said:
sorry missed abit out the job i just had done is really cracking and was real value for money,as for the rest my view is i dont like 3 angle but if it works for you go for it and i hope I'm wrong about your TVR engine because I would love to see it crack 1000bhp and be reliable but i think it will be closer to 750-800 bhp but good luck,before i started my engine i did alot of reading and talking to people as research cost me only time no money,then went the way i did,any way thats enough from me love to see you do it,hope it all works out for you
What the hell you on about? this is the SP6 forum, I'm not even talking about my engine. I'm talking about circa 400bhp engines. And FYI my engine is being sent off to a specialist team who spend 200mill+ a year on design/tech - Austec is no micky-mouse outfit, they are the real deal and are taking NO risks with my engine. Cant disclose anymore on this, nuff said, and quite honestly its non of your business. Btw, I'm aiming for well over a 1000 - not a period at 1000. When she hits prime-time, then I'll wait for the comments, until then go and tickle someone elses nuts ffs.
* I dont go cheap charlies.
* I just dont like feckin delays and poor workmanship!
* And I dont like to throw MORE money at someone who keeps promising to deliver when they dont. And those who say something is done, when it IS NOT!
I was patient, VERY patient, for nearly 2 feckin years. Have you seen the shitty differential install in my cerbie? I'll put a pic up here and show you what all the drag-racers have been laughing at when I showed them what I was given!
You pay your money and you expect QUALITY, not mr-bodge it it'll do. The injector bodies and intake flanges+trumpets are a joke!!!! Totally unusable for the job in hand! Have I said enough? or shall I say more?
And what the hell you on about? Again, talking about F1 as if you're clued up in that area? Listen mate, F1 engines are NA short-stroke 20kRPM engines with top-dollar fuelling/ignition systems and exhaust/intake systems which could never hit a road car in this day - different ball game. Like I said before - DONT COMPARE F1 TO 400BHP STRAIGHT6 ROAD ENGINES!
Edited by SXS on Tuesday 27th June 11:59
as soon as some one says some thing you dont like you go off at the deep end if you dont like them dont read them,at no time have i slagged you off,I went back through some of the threads and you just lose it grow up you put things on here which i replied to dont like the the answers tough, one min your singing there praises next your slagging them off,I dont like that but thats just me,by the way I'm nothing to do with auto craft dont know any off them,I just don't change my opions like the weather
john i said:
as soon as some one says some thing you dont like you go off at the deep end if you dont like them dont read them,at no time have i slagged you off,I went back through some of the threads and you just lose it grow up you put things on here which i replied to dont like the the answers tough, one min your singing there praises next your slagging them off,I dont like that but thats just me,by the way I'm nothing to do with auto craft dont know any off them,I just don't change my opions like the weather
Deep end? do I look like I give a toss? you went in and started talking about my engine when it had nothing to do with this thread - of course I'm gonna go off into the deep end, blurdy heck what do you expect? praises? you have no clue about whats happening with my engine so why bother talking of it?
And you say you have nothing to do with craft? could have had me fooled.
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