T350 Engine blown?

T350 Engine blown?

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yzf1070

814 posts

232 months

Friday 18th November 2005
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macdeb said:
yzf1070 said:
macdeb said:

Fair but wasn't just valve train problems pointed out by Melling.



WHAT....either you were not there or you fell asleep for half of the venue......rods, pistons, crank, block design, engine capacity, oil delivery and distribution.....to add just a few additional alterations he discussed on the S6 vs his AJP6.

Err, isn't that what I said? NOT just valve train. PS. Was there and awake.


My apologies please, I read it as you were saying that just valve train problems were discussed. I am quite passionate about this because it DOES go so much deeper than just the top end. And I am keen to know what others are doing if at all to address it. Coz I reckon there are gonna be engines still failing after having being repaired albeit at perhaps higher mileages. IMO replacing items with improved materials will only extend the life by a small margin, where as re engineering components to work together and to an improved design can only improve matters further still. I read somewhere on here someone suggesting that TVR are now fitting teflon coated valves.....I assume the stem.....that could just be a red herring but if true; well that's gonna last init...?!?

Rgds
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sogifted

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10 posts

227 months

Friday 18th November 2005
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Keep everything crossed, preliminary checks point to a throttle pot failure - should know more on Monday.

From previous threads this looks like a common problem around the 15k miles mark, so its a bit premature, but I'll settle for that any day over a new or rebuilt engine!

chris watton

22,477 posts

261 months

Friday 18th November 2005
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sogifted said:
Keep everything crossed, preliminary checks point to a throttle pot failure - should know more on Monday.

From previous threads this looks like a common problem around the 15k miles mark, so its a bit premature, but I'll settle for that any day over a new or rebuilt engine!



Hope that's the case for you, I too feared the worse when my throttle pots worn - they are not really up to the job, being little plastic-cased Ford componants, I have said this many times before on P/H, but it's worth saying again, Dom at TVR Power told me that, realistically, these throttle pots last about 14K miles before they show signs of wear, i.e. stuttering under acceleration, I have made a point of getting them changed at every big 12K service.

Keep us posted! Hopefully you'll be by this time next week!

hwassall

280 posts

285 months

Monday 21st November 2005
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One of the throttle pots on my car went at about 9500 miles. It was not wear as such, it just stuck full open.

macdeb

8,512 posts

256 months

Monday 21st November 2005
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yzf1070 said:
macdeb said:
yzf1070 said:
macdeb said:

Fair but wasn't just valve train problems pointed out by Melling.



WHAT....either you were not there or you fell asleep for half of the venue......rods, pistons, crank, block design, engine capacity, oil delivery and distribution.....to add just a few additional alterations he discussed on the S6 vs his AJP6.

Err, isn't that what I said? NOT just valve train. PS. Was there and awake.


My apologies please, I read it as you were saying that just valve train problems were discussed. I am quite passionate about this because it DOES go so much deeper than just the top end. And I am keen to know what others are doing if at all to address it. Coz I reckon there are gonna be engines still failing after having being repaired albeit at perhaps higher mileages. IMO replacing items with improved materials will only extend the life by a small margin, where as re engineering components to work together and to an improved design can only improve matters further still. I read somewhere on here someone suggesting that TVR are now fitting teflon coated valves.....I assume the stem.....that could just be a red herring but if true; well that's gonna last init...?!?

Rgds
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No probs' bloke. Agree with all you say too.

sogifted

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10 posts

227 months

Monday 28th November 2005
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Heard from Castle - it wasn't a throttle pot problem after all, it was a failed injector! Anyway, they've sorted the problem out and a whole host of new-car niggles without batting an eye-lid, which has restored my faith in after-sales and maintains the TVR love-affair!


Roll on the weekend...

nelly1

5,630 posts

232 months

Monday 28th November 2005
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Oooh, you lucky b*stard!

From failed engine to throttle problem to dodgy injector: what a relief!!

Tell me, did you pick your PH nickmane by chance, or should I ask you for next weeks Lottery numbers now ?!?!?

Seriously, really glad this turned out to be something minor, and that you haven't been 'put off' as more than a few others have surely been.

Keep on Tivving mate!!

sideways mostly

2,681 posts

242 months

Tuesday 29th November 2005
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sogifted said:
Heard from Castle - it wasn't a throttle pot problem after all, it was a failed injector! Anyway, they've sorted the problem out and a whole host of new-car niggles without batting an eye-lid, which has restored my faith in after-sales and maintains the TVR love-affair!


Roll on the weekend...



Great news! Happy driving

the pits

4,289 posts

241 months

Tuesday 29th November 2005
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Glad to hear it's minor but it was very interesting how so many people rushed to put the boot in on the S6. I'm guilty myself of assuming the worst when reading this thread and I'm a huge fan of the engine. I understand that some people have had bad experiences but it's clear that there is a psychological component to the S6 and it's very damaging to TVR. Still, the throttle bodies shouldn't have failed either, so definitely room for improvement there. But I agree with one of the earlier threads, if you're buying used the horror stories have pushed the prices down of these hand built british supercar slayers well beyond the price of a rebuild. Budget for 20k, buy one for 15k and if it goes pop you'll still end up with a bargain and one with a freshly rebuilt to boot. If it doesn't go pop then it could be time to start giving the S6 a break.

the pits

4,289 posts

241 months

Wednesday 30th November 2005
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Now, how about a 'Sorry S6, 2005 t350 engine NOT blown afterall but running just fine' thread with a big thumbs up next to it?

If a new comer came to this section and saw all the thumbs down and crying smiley icons he'd run for the hills!

sideways mostly

2,681 posts

242 months

Wednesday 30th November 2005
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What we could really do with is a flag for all those who pile into the Speed Six forum with no new information,no helpfull advice and offer schadenfreunde sympathy before using it as an opportunity to dis a fine engine.

How about it Ted- a 'my trolls' button to go with the 'my mates' one?

_DeeJay_

4,898 posts

255 months

Wednesday 30th November 2005
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Am I allowed to say "I told you so" yet?

bjwoods

5,015 posts

285 months

Wednesday 30th November 2005
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that sounds fair enough..

But a quick look at the pistonheads classified section. Shows a high % of the private adds admitting to rebuilds. vs no dealer adds, stating rebuilds ( !? ).

Perhaps, if we all step outside the TVR world/ph world, this may explain why a number of buyers are frightened off. I will get atuscan myself at some point, waiting for autocraft rebuilld or warrant schemes to settle down a bit first. Then have to time it well, to but before used prices stabilise, start to go up.... which they must, given potential classic, and supercar statis.

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>> Edited by bjwoods on Wednesday 30th November 19:59