Dash Cameras

[M4cruiser]

garreth64 said:

Does anyone else with a Mobius have issue with loop-on recording?

I've tried two separate cards now, both 32GB, one Kingston and one Samsung, but when the card fills up the Mobius just stops recording and won't overwrite existing files. Loop recording is set to On.

I have found the Mini 0801 sometimes plays up in this department, the file which gets deleted isn't always the oldest one. I'm guessing the processor has quite a lot to do at that moment when it needs space, to decide which is the oldest file, delete it, and save the new one without losing and data.

So every now and then I take the card out and do a manual clean-up.

Not a big problem considering the price of the thing.

[JumboBeef]

I've got a 0806. Long story, but I'm looking for a decent replacement.

Any ideas for front and rear cameras, must be reliable! Happy to spend couple of hundred quid or so....

[irocfan]

Yabu said:

paulcdb said:

i'm surprised no-one has made one yet with dual camera's which are separate to the main recorder.

Permanently fix it in the boot with live feed and then you'd be able to hide the cameras a lot better from prying eyes but all the ones i've found have to be stuck on the window so only a matter of time before someone takes a fancy to it around here.

I know the 1 time i forget to remove it would be the 1 time some scrote spots it!

K1s does this, but you still have cameras to mount, there are very small discreet cameras as an alternative option.

review of K1S...

http://www.techmoan.com/blog/2015/3/1/k1s-the-firs...

seems quite interesting

[garreth64]

All that jazz said:

When did you do the last software update? Interestingly, mine has started doing the same and it only seems to have happened since I last had it hooked up to my PC where I will have done a software update at the same time. I've not used mine for a few months now as I haven't gotten round to looking into it. I've used the same Sansung XHS1 card in mine since I got it and it's performed near flawlessly for 2.5 years now so something is amiss.

I only purchased mine a few weeks ago, and it came with v2.37 so I haven't updated it at all, as the only update is v2.41 which only has a few minor fixes. It's never worked from the day I had it. I've just re-formatted the card as ExFAT instead to see if that helps.

[Negative Creep]

Ok, I've been browsing for hours and if anything I'm more confused. I'm looking for a budget, discreet camera without a screen. Möbius ones look good but are a bit out of my price range at the moment. Any suggestions?

[Spare tyre]

Negative Creep said:

Ok, I've been browsing for hours and if anything I'm more confused. I'm looking for a budget, discreet camera without a screen. Möbius ones look good but are a bit out of my price range at the moment. Any suggestions?

Get a mobius

Buy cheap buy twice and all that

[Negative Creep]

Spare tyre said:

Negative Creep said:

Ok, I've been browsing for hours and if anything I'm more confused. I'm looking for a budget, discreet camera without a screen. Möbius ones look good but are a bit out of my price range at the moment. Any suggestions?

Get a mobius

Buy cheap buy twice and all that

Bit too much for me pre Christmas. Unfortunately I have a 600 mile round trip to a family funeral coming up so wouldn't mind getting one before then

[ColdoRS]

Gents,

I'm getting my old man a dashcam for christmas. I've browsed this thread however still not really sure what to go for...

Discreet
No screen
Easy to use (don't want to be getting called to go and fix it every other day)
On and off with ignition
Budget: Up to £100

Mobius? Roadhawk? Any input appreciated.

[liner33]

Radio interference

I fitted a G1w to my mums Skoda Fabia last week and its the same model as I have in my Octavia, I deliberately chose a non GPS model for my Octavia as cameras like the Blackvue for example have a rep for impacting the DAB reception and the G1w is great , no issues at all

However in my mums non DAB car the G1W is knocking out the radio , pretty much unusable

I think it may be that the power feed for the camera is routed close to the aerial cable in the drivers pillar

Any suggestions before I rip everything apart to route the power down the passenger side ?

[threadlock]

JumboBeef said:

I've got a 0806. Long story, but I'm looking for a decent replacement.

I've been thinking of buying an 0806 since it was recommended by Techmoan. Could you tell me what your thoughts are on yours please?

.... alternatively ...

If I didn't buy an 0806 (either because it's got issues or because availability is limited) what would others recommend?
I've been using an 0801 and I like the screen and the small size, but the battery has died. My dad wants the Transcend for Christmas, but it looks too big for me.

[Targarama]

threadlock said:

JumboBeef said:

I've got a 0806. Long story, but I'm looking for a decent replacement.

I've been thinking of buying an 0806 since it was recommended by Techmoan. Could you tell me what your thoughts are on yours please?

.... alternatively ...

If I didn't buy an 0806 (either because it's got issues or because availability is limited) what would others recommend?
I've been using an 0801 and I like the screen and the small size, but the battery has died. My dad wants the Transcend for Christmas, but it looks too big for me.

Get an 0805? They just seem to work and work. I have 2 and have had no issues. Toying with another for the rear of 1 car.

[rich888]

threadlock said:

JumboBeef said:

I've got a 0806. Long story, but I'm looking for a decent replacement.

I've been thinking of buying an 0806 since it was recommended by Techmoan. Could you tell me what your thoughts are on yours please?

.... alternatively ...

If I didn't buy an 0806 (either because it's got issues or because availability is limited) what would others recommend?
I've been using an 0801 and I like the screen and the small size, but the battery has died. My dad wants the Transcend for Christmas, but it looks too big for me.

I have used several dash cams over the years including Blackvue, Mi Witness, 0801, 0806 and Mobius, I stopped using the Mi Witness and the Blackvue because the video quality wasn't good enough despite these units being far more expensive.

The eprance 0801 which I purchased from Amazon has to record some of the best quality video for the money and has been supremely reliable to date, unlike the more expensive 0806 which is now starting to play up. I actually purchased the 0806 because I was led to believe that it's video quality was superior to the 0801, and yes, it is a little better in the daytime when set to maximum resolution, though very annoyingly, the 0806 tends to blur the number plates of oncoming vehicles which the 0801 doesn't do. The 0806 is certain better at night-time, but it costs double the 0801 so it really ought to be better.

The advantage of the 0806 to the 0801 is that far larger capacity SD cards can be fitted than 32GB cards which is the max for the 0801 due to the processor used, this may or may not be a problem to you if you only do short runs to work and back, but if you want to record a weeks worth of driving then unfortunately you will have to eject the card and copy the files very often. The twin SD card facility of the 0806 doesn't actually work in the way you would expect, in that it doesn't fill up the first card then record to the second card, it merely fills up the first card then loops round and overwrites the contents and totally ignores the second card!!!

Both the 0801 and 0806 are extremely compact in stature and when fitted on the windscreen they do hide behind the rear view mirror very well. Having a small LCD screen does enable them to be positioned very easily, this screen switches off after a few seconds so isn't a distraction when driving. If you're not doing long distance driving then the 0801 would be my choice for reliability over the 0806. Unfortunately neither of these dash cams has been designed to be taken to pieces by the owner, say when the battery dies.

The Mobius is in a different league to the 080* cameras, it's been designed to be taken to pieces as and when necessary, and everything can be replaced including the lens, motherboard and the battery, it really is a great little camera and is used by many owners of drones and the RC community.

The Mobius also works very well as a dash cam though is infinitely more adjustable, the settings of which can be changed using the MobiusManager software that can be freely downloaded. Its video resolution is better than the 0801 and not far off the 0806 (when the 0806 is set to its very best resolution), but set at 1080p is a little better than the 0806 in the daytime but not so good in lower light conditions. It's physically quite small but when used as a dash cam isn't so discreet due to the lanky windscreen mount, having said that, many owners have made up fittings using magnets to attach the body to the car interior, and of course the camera lens can be remotely fitted.

The Mobius isn't limited to 32GB cards and can be used with 64GB or larger micro SD cards, I personally have used a 64GB card without problems and have been using a 128GB card for several months now without issues.

It can be used in the car as a dashcam, or outside of the car as a helmet-cam if the battery is fitted, though note it's not waterproof. All parameters are set on your PC or Mac because no LCD screen is fitted on the body. Positioning is best guess though you can connect it to a laptop for initial positioning though I've found that it's quite easy to just point it slightly downwards when attached to the windscreen. It's been totally reliable to date. Apparently the best lens to buy at the monument is with the C2 lens. Best place to buy from is direct from the manufacturer who has a shop on ebay, link is http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/eletoponline365/m.html?_...

I feel that long-term the Mobius will be the more reliable unit to use, but the 0801 and 0806 are just so compact, if the 0801 was available for use with a larger capacity SD card I would be my ideal choice compared to the more expensive 0806 any day of the week. If the Mobius had a more compact windscreen mount I would choose it over the 080* range of dashcams.

The 0801 and 0806 dash cams are certainly very easy to set up and affix to the windscreen, whilst the Mobius needs a little bit more effort in order to achieve the desired results purely because the Mobius is more than just a dashcam and can be used in a multitude of ways.

Hope this helps...

[M4cruiser]

Negative Creep said:

Unfortunately I have a 600 mile round trip to a family funeral coming up so wouldn't mind getting one before then

As a temporary solution a mobile phone works quite well. No "app" needed if you're happy to manually delete the older files from time to time, just set it to Video and make up a holder for a suitable part of the dash itself.

This will give you more time to make up your mind on a more permanent solution.

[threadlock]

rich888 said:

[Lots of good stuff]

Hope this helps...

Yes, thank you very much indeed. It seems there's little benefit paying double the price for the 0806.

I think I'll replace my 0801 with the same again, since they're not very expensive and (when they're working) they're very good. Mine has lasted almost two years. I'll get Dad the Transcend 200 and hope it's a more reliable unit generally.

[rich888]

M4cruiser said:

Negative Creep said:

Unfortunately I have a 600 mile round trip to a family funeral coming up so wouldn't mind getting one before then

As a temporary solution a mobile phone works quite well. No "app" needed if you're happy to manually delete the older files from time to time, just set it to Video and make up a holder for a suitable part of the dash itself.

This will give you more time to make up your mind on a more permanent solution.

Hope you don't mind me commenting on your idea which sounds fantastic in principle, but I thought that cameras and mobile phones had a 30 minute recording limit due to licensing regulations, unlike camcorders which aren't restricted. Dashcams get round this issue by recording in sequential 1, 3, or 5 minute, etc. blocks. Aside from which, a single 30 minute 1080p video recording is going to be one hefty file size to deal with. To give you some idea, a 3 minute video file recorded using the Mobius is 415MB which is far less than the 0806 which used over 545MB for the same 3 minute file which was recorded at its highest resolution.

[spikey78]

For anyone looking at a road angel halo i managed to get a new one pretty cheap. It's nice that it's got two cameras, but the quality of footage is poor. It comes with some nice software but it's actually not that adjustable, certainly not a patch on the mobius one.
Overall not that impressed, and would have been even less so had I have paid full price.
Should have got two mobius instead

[Rich135]

threadlock said:

Yes, thank you very much indeed. It seems there's little benefit paying double the price for the 0806.

I think I'll replace my 0801 with the same again, since they're not very expensive and (when they're working) they're very good. Mine has lasted almost two years. I'll get Dad the Transcend 200 and hope it's a more reliable unit generally.

Where's the best place to get an 0801 from, and what sort of price should I be paying?
Thanks

[smithyithy]

Guys, does this look okay? Not sure which 08xx model it's supposed to be?

I currently use my Drift helmet cam as a dash cam, so just need something to use as a rearview now.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Newest-Ambarella-smalles...

[chopper602]

threadlock said:

I think I'll replace my 0801 with the same again, since they're not very expensive and (when they're working) they're very good. Mine has lasted almost two years.

Have a look at a unit with a capacitor rather than a battery, they don't tend to die as soon as the battery models, but still have enough excess power to shut down properly when you turn the engine off. I have one fitted in each of the cars (different models G1W in the Jag and the 'Wedge' in the Polestar) and they seem to be working fine.

[M4cruiser]

rich888 said:

M4cruiser said:

Negative Creep said:

Unfortunately I have a 600 mile round trip to a family funeral coming up so wouldn't mind getting one before then

As a temporary solution a mobile phone works quite well. No "app" needed if you're happy to manually delete the older files from time to time, just set it to Video and make up a holder for a suitable part of the dash itself.

This will give you more time to make up your mind on a more permanent solution.

Hope you don't mind me commenting on your idea which sounds fantastic in principle, but I thought that cameras and mobile phones had a 30 minute recording limit due to licensing regulations, unlike camcorders which aren't restricted. Dashcams get round this issue by recording in sequential 1, 3, or 5 minute, etc. blocks. Aside from which, a single 30 minute 1080p video recording is going to be one hefty file size to deal with. To give you some idea, a 3 minute video file recorded using the Mobius is 415MB which is far less than the 0806 which used over 545MB for the same 3 minute file which was recorded at its highest resolution.

It's something I have actually done many times, i.e. when I upgrade the phone I use my previous mobile as the dashcam. The quality isn't quite up there with the Mobius or even an 0801, but it's as good as many dashcams. I have personally done a 2-hour recording in one file, which is just over 2Gb on my old Nokia. The battery just lasts this long, but I can also plug the charger in whilst it's in place (not whilst driving along!!).

My latest phone has much higher quality video, and also no limit on length, but it would fill up the card quicker.