Is it just me that doesn't WANT built in sat nav?
Discussion
Magic919 said:
You can probably order your Boxster without satnav.
KevinCamaroSS said:
It might make a difference when selling the car?
Sure. So reduce the sale price. Nav is a £1k option. How much will it reduce the sale price by? A grand or more? Just tick the box and never use it. Less than a grand? Then you're quids in for not ticking it.This is my biggest bug while deciding on what car to get next. Since having it on my Scirocco and now my A4, i think i'd have to have inbuilt sat-nav. The sad thing is that i don't really do that many unknown trips to justify it but i just like to have it there ready, working within the car, if and when i need it.
Phones and things like tomtom/garmin have limited size GPS receivers because they are small devices. Cars can have huge aerials.
Car systems can (and on my car, do) measure wheel speed so the car knows where it is when I'm driving in a tunnel, even if I stop.
If those two things could be used with a smartphone app like google maps, I'd be a happy bunny - for example, if the wheel speed was available via bluetooth, and if the car's GPS antenna was available to the phone.
Nobody allows casting with something like miracast of a phone screen onto an in-car display.
Unfortunately nobody bothers with that sort of integration.
Car systems can (and on my car, do) measure wheel speed so the car knows where it is when I'm driving in a tunnel, even if I stop.
If those two things could be used with a smartphone app like google maps, I'd be a happy bunny - for example, if the wheel speed was available via bluetooth, and if the car's GPS antenna was available to the phone.
Nobody allows casting with something like miracast of a phone screen onto an in-car display.
Unfortunately nobody bothers with that sort of integration.
Roger Irrelevant said:
I don't get the '5 year old satnav is hopelessly out of date' thing - mine is from 2004 (so practically the dark ages), and granted I don't need to use it that much but when I do I put the postcode in, it gives me directions, I get there. What am I missing?
£15 on EBay and an update from TomTom....as you say, it gives directions/lanes, shouts at me for exceeding the speed limit and screams CAMERA when it should.CraigyMc said:
Phones and things like tomtom/garmin have limited size GPS receivers because they are small devices. Cars can have huge aerials.
Car systems can (and on my car, do) measure wheel speed so the car knows where it is when I'm driving in a tunnel, even if I stop.
If those two things could be used with a smartphone app like google maps, I'd be a happy bunny - for example, if the wheel speed was available via bluetooth, and if the car's GPS antenna was available to the phone.
Nobody allows casting with something like miracast of a phone screen onto an in-car display.
Unfortunately nobody bothers with that sort of integration.
I know it will be a nice feature to have, but is tunnel position really that important? Worried about missing your turnoff?Car systems can (and on my car, do) measure wheel speed so the car knows where it is when I'm driving in a tunnel, even if I stop.
If those two things could be used with a smartphone app like google maps, I'd be a happy bunny - for example, if the wheel speed was available via bluetooth, and if the car's GPS antenna was available to the phone.
Nobody allows casting with something like miracast of a phone screen onto an in-car display.
Unfortunately nobody bothers with that sort of integration.
kennydies said:
I only ever use google maps. Ideally I want the inbuilt sat nav to be Android based and is self updating.
Until that point I will always use my phone...
and that's the crux of the matter, car manufacturers are just so slow at modernising and updating tech / codeUntil that point I will always use my phone...
recently they have changed the layout of lewisham roundabout a several times because of the development there, the next day Waze had the new roads / changes loaded automatically
I think they should put an industry standard HD touchscreen in there with a standard micro hdmi + USB connector in the glovebox.
Then you could use it to add whatever aftermarket audio/nav device you wanted to... or add an android auto/car play interface.... whatever you like. I bet the aftermarket would step in and make many fantastic products that put the OEM stuff to shame.
Then you could use it to add whatever aftermarket audio/nav device you wanted to... or add an android auto/car play interface.... whatever you like. I bet the aftermarket would step in and make many fantastic products that put the OEM stuff to shame.
TooMany2cvs said:
spookly said:
I think they should put an industry standard HD touchscreen in there with a standard micro hdmi + USB connector in the glovebox.
Mmm. Whose product gets to become that standard?It's been done before with ICE: DIN and double-DIN slots. PCs and components have operated on standards for, what? 30 years? Almost every TV has been able to communicate with every DVD player (and vice versa; and VHS recorder, digibox, etc. etc.) via SCART, component, coax, HDMI (or whatever at the time) for decades without being restricted to a particular manufacturer. TV broadcasts could be received and interpreted by TVs from every manufacturer.
TooMany2cvs said:
spookly said:
I think they should put an industry standard HD touchscreen in there with a standard micro hdmi + USB connector in the glovebox.
Mmm. Whose product gets to become that standard?Have a look on ebay you'll find loads of touchscreens which you can use with almost any OS or system, most support native touch drivers, and of course USB.
I've used one of these universal touchscreens with a raspberry Pi, Linux, microcontrollers and Windows.... in fact I bet I could build a better sat nav unit with a Raspberry Pi and a few online traffic data sources than many manufacturers manage.
rampageturke said:
CraigyMc said:
Phones and things like tomtom/garmin have limited size GPS receivers because they are small devices. Cars can have huge aerials.
Car systems can (and on my car, do) measure wheel speed so the car knows where it is when I'm driving in a tunnel, even if I stop.
If those two things could be used with a smartphone app like google maps, I'd be a happy bunny - for example, if the wheel speed was available via bluetooth, and if the car's GPS antenna was available to the phone.
Nobody allows casting with something like miracast of a phone screen onto an in-car display.
Unfortunately nobody bothers with that sort of integration.
I know it will be a nice feature to have, but is tunnel position really that important? Worried about missing your turnoff?Car systems can (and on my car, do) measure wheel speed so the car knows where it is when I'm driving in a tunnel, even if I stop.
If those two things could be used with a smartphone app like google maps, I'd be a happy bunny - for example, if the wheel speed was available via bluetooth, and if the car's GPS antenna was available to the phone.
Nobody allows casting with something like miracast of a phone screen onto an in-car display.
Unfortunately nobody bothers with that sort of integration.
my A4 has Android Auto for the screen, as well as playing your music etc.
My experience has been generally great, voice activated directions, always updated maps, no issue with losing GPS (can download route prior to journey) with the added bonus that I can use my work phone so zero data cost.
My experience has been generally great, voice activated directions, always updated maps, no issue with losing GPS (can download route prior to journey) with the added bonus that I can use my work phone so zero data cost.
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