Using Waze satnav in Europe

[CYMR0]

Mike335i said:

Will the EU abolishing of international roaming charges apply to us though? Given as we are leaving that particular party?

When we leave, we'll probably have all the legislation for an initial period, although there's no guarantee. Eventually the government would be free to abolish it but that doesn't mean that charges will instantly come back.

By that time, the 'no roaming' thing will become established and it will be difficult for the networks to impose it... it already works, commercially, with Three, so it's doubtful the networks would have the market strength to pull it even if the legislation is abolished.

[phil1979]

Shaoxter said:

It will easily fall inside that for a 2 day road trip. 100MB max I'd say.

Thanks

[CYMR0]

phil1979 said:

Thanks

Maybe plan the route before you leave the hotel, when you're connected over WiFi, just in case. Unlikely to be a problem though.

[blueacid]

CYMR0 said:

Maybe plan the route before you leave the hotel, when you're connected over WiFi, just in case. Unlikely to be a problem though.

I'm pretty sure that Waze does download the map tiles in advance when you do this. Of course, if you set off & subsequently re-route it'll need to download the new tiles (plus it'll invariably use data to know about reports on the road ahead).

On a 4 hour drive to London from Manchester, without a wifi preload, it used around 50-60MB, recalculating once or twice.

[phil1979]

blueacid said:

I'm pretty sure that Waze does download the map tiles in advance when you do this. Of course, if you set off & subsequently re-route it'll need to download the new tiles (plus it'll invariably use data to know about reports on the road ahead).

On a 4 hour drive to London from Manchester, without a wifi preload, it used around 50-60MB, recalculating once or twice.

Thanks - good info.

[CYMR0]

blueacid said:

CYMR0 said:

Maybe plan the route before you leave the hotel, when you're connected over WiFi, just in case. Unlikely to be a problem though.

I'm pretty sure that Waze does download the map tiles in advance when you do this. Of course, if you set off & subsequently re-route it'll need to download the new tiles (plus it'll invariably use data to know about reports on the road ahead).

On a 4 hour drive to London from Manchester, without a wifi preload, it used around 50-60MB, recalculating once or twice.

Oh, absolutely. But if you can download and cache the bulk over WiFi, you're safer.

[hairyben]

CYMR0 said:

Mike335i said:

Will the EU abolishing of international roaming charges apply to us though? Given as we are leaving that particular party?

When we leave, we'll probably have all the legislation for an initial period, although there's no guarantee. Eventually the government would be free to abolish it but that doesn't mean that charges will instantly come back.

By that time, the 'no roaming' thing will become established and it will be difficult for the networks to impose it... it already works, commercially, with Three, so it's doubtful the networks would have the market strength to pull it even if the legislation is abolished.

3 feel at home predates the eu ruling and applies to many non eu countries australia america etc, eu ruling was a bit behind the curve.

[CYMR0]

hairyben said:

3 feel at home predates the eu ruling and applies to many non eu countries australia america etc, eu ruling was a bit behind the curve.

While this is true, it's only just been rolled out across the entire EU and I'm sure the deals that allow that would have been harder to close if there wasn't the legislative pressure to do so.

Three's competitors didn't exactly rush to follow suit, even within the EU, so it would not be surprising if they preferred to withdraw those offers if and when the option is open to them. What would stop them is either replacement legislation (or not repealing what we currently have) or simply the fact that the market will have got used to it.

[hairyben]

CYMR0 said:

hairyben said:

3 feel at home predates the eu ruling and applies to many non eu countries australia america etc, eu ruling was a bit behind the curve.

While this is true, it's only just been rolled out across the entire EU and I'm sure the deals that allow that would have been harder to close if there wasn't the legislative pressure to do so.

Three's competitors didn't exactly rush to follow suit, even within the EU, so it would not be surprising if they preferred to withdraw those offers if and when the option is open to them. What would stop them is either replacement legislation (or not repealing what we currently have) or simply the fact that the market will have got used to it.

Perhaps. Networks have been profiteering by hiding behind outdated concepts to mug their customers off when travelling and frankly operating as a cartel in this aspect, 3 obviously saw a market oppertunity that would appeal to the social media generation and now the cats out the bag theres no going back, the other networks will have to fall in line.

Now loads of phones are dual sim and you can have cheap global sims etc, call via apps using data, people can easily choose not to rinsed by their networks, what the eu are doing is the right thing just at least 5 years too late

[AW10]

Mike335i said:

Careful though, use it in France and you may have your phone confiscated due to the speed camera location (if you get caught that is).

Not an issue - in France it merely says something along the lines of "you are entering a speed enforcement zone" some 1-2 km before the camera and then tells you you're leaving the zone some 1-2 km later - it never pinpoints the camera location. All rather different than in the UK and presumably done in accordance with French regs to keep the app and its users legal?