RE: Thieves target satnavs
Discussion
Strange, I've never felt the need to buy these contraptions. Call me old fashioned but I've always found the £1.99 map from a garage perfectly adequate. Given that most people make the same journey every day I've always felt these are just "gadgets" that people want becasue they're the latest thing.
I'm sure they'll be many who may disagree?
I'm sure they'll be many who may disagree?
agent006 said:
If you leave your satnav in full view, then you almost deserve to have it stolen.
what a stupid thing to say, people should be able to leave things in there car without some lowlife smashing the window an stealing it.
just because crime is high and rising is no reason to tolerate it or accept it as part of everyday life, does the country have to turn into a crime hellhole before we get zero tolerance policing were precisly this type of thing is cracked down on hard.
Rather than a letter saying terribly sorry old chap no chance of catching the buggers, but count yourself lucky its just your car
xxplod said:
Strange, I've never felt the need to buy these contraptions. Call me old fashioned but I've always found the £1.99 map from a garage perfectly adequate. Given that most people make the same journey every day I've always felt these are just "gadgets" that people want becasue they're the latest thing.
I'm sure they'll be many who may disagree?
Fair enough if you do but, plenty of people have to make lots of one off journeys. A map is fine for route planning in advance but where these devices really come into their own is when you’re trying to find a particular street in a town you don’t know. It’s not easy to find a safe place to stop in a town centre, find the nearest street name, identify that street on a map (assuming you have a map with street level detail for a town you’ve never visited) and then work out a route to the street you want to get to. IME you may have to reiterate the aforementioned sequence several times before you actually get to your final destination. Satnav talks you to the door (right down to house numbers) without you having to stop or take your eyes off the road.
Surely this is good news - who would want to live in a society that does keep up with technology? At least the professional scumbag is updating his stock like all other businesses in a bid to stay ahead of the competition.
Even ten years ago the advice of the Stoke Newington Police was to remove all car audio from your car(inc speakers), take everything else out of the car when you park up and leave all the doors unlocked. This was their solution to crime.
They don't seem to have this problem in Saudi for some reason
Even ten years ago the advice of the Stoke Newington Police was to remove all car audio from your car(inc speakers), take everything else out of the car when you park up and leave all the doors unlocked. This was their solution to crime.
They don't seem to have this problem in Saudi for some reason
DanH said:
What annoying is having to remove the screen mount too, because so many idiots put the units in the glove box that any sign of one is enough to make someone take a hammer to your window.
Why not remove the TomTom unit, take it with you, and leave the glovebox wide open, proving that there's nothing of value in it? I've done this several times when parking on side streets in London. No need to remove the PDA mount or clean the suction mark off the windscreen.
Or am I missing some blindingly obvious reason why this isn't a good idea?
xxplod said:
Strange, I've never felt the need to buy these contraptions. Call me old fashioned but I've always found the £1.99 map from a garage perfectly adequate. Given that most people make the same journey every day I've always felt these are just "gadgets" that people want becasue they're the latest thing.
I'm sure they'll be many who may disagree?
I'm another one who disagrees with you, Mr xxplod
Delayed buying a TomTom thingy for my phone until last Christmas (being unable to justify the expense) but now wish I'd bought one years ago. For regular commuting-type journeys I agree it's kinda pointless but for anything else it's utterly fantastic.
My wife and I no longer argue about navigation. I don't have to stop the car or try and navigate while driving. I don't have to wind the window down and speak to any wierd-looking locals either.
Another major advantage for me is that there's no guesswork on the timing when driving to a meeting somewhere new. The machine tells you how long the journey's going to take and it's usually slightly pessimistic, so I always arrive slightly early. No more apologising to clients!
How very depressing. I just got a Tom Tom Go 700 this week and it is sensationally good. I was wondering about removing the sucker arm from the windscreen, but I can't be arsed. Obviously I always take the Tom Tom out of the car with me.
How nice to hear that the crime wave is rife in MY area. Bloody hell.
How nice to hear that the crime wave is rife in MY area. Bloody hell.
john_p said:
That's what happened to my mate. Had a tomtom, with the suction cup fixed to the windscreen. When parking, he'd remove the tomtom and put it in the glovebox, but leave the suction cup fitted. Lo and behold, back from work one day and smashed window, no tomtom
Even if you have taken it with you, you would still get a broken window - bad enough.
Even hiding all in the boot out of sight is not foolproof - a colleague had his laptop stolen from the boot, and the police commented that thieves watch for people doing this in carparks. Suggested you stop somewhere else and remove from view, then drive to the destination. Unfortunately this somewhat defeats the object of TomTom or Road Angel.
Need more coppers catching said scrotes, and proper court sentences for those apprehended - instead of just concentrating on speeding cars!
sublimatica said:
What annoying is having to remove the screen mount too, because so many idiots put the units in the glove box that any sign of one is enough to make someone take a hammer to your window.
Why not remove the TomTom unit, take it with you, and leave the glovebox wide open, proving that there's nothing of value in it? I've done this several times when parking on side streets in London. No need to remove the PDA mount or clean the suction mark off the windscreen.
Or am I missing some blindingly obvious reason why this isn't a good idea?
Quite sensible - BUT... Would need to put any vaguely interesting items from glovebox elsewhere so it was obviously empty, and then there is always the risk they would break into the car to see if anything is in the boot. In a estate/hatchback I suppose you could leave the luggage cover open and remove everything from the boot, but mightly inconvenient to lug all that stuff around with you.
(Morning - I am here to see Mr Smith - is it OK if I leave my toolkit, spare wheel, jack etc with you in reception?)
I might be new to this thread, but for God's sake.... I need to rant...
If someone is so STUPID as to leave their £500 unit on display in their car then there is no helping them.
It is not necessary for police resource that my taxes have paid for to be wasted on pointing out the bleeding obvious.
Surely if the police are as under-resrouced as we keep hearing, they should stop the namby-pamby cr*p like advising
wits to lock the door on their car / to not leave handbags on the seat / to not leave your DVD in your front garden with a sign saying "please take me".
I'm not one to say that someone "deserved" to be a victim of crime, but bad people exist in the world and if you're just stupid then you should be ignored. The insurance companies have established a legal precedent for leaving your car with the keys in it (ie. if it gets stolen) as you had a reasonable duty of car... well its the same thing!
Stupid people should pay more tax...
I thank you!
Pikey
PS. Ooo - just remembered, stupid people DO pay more tax, its called the National Lottery.. or is that a tax on peolpe who're bad at maths? Jury's still out on that one!
If someone is so STUPID as to leave their £500 unit on display in their car then there is no helping them.
It is not necessary for police resource that my taxes have paid for to be wasted on pointing out the bleeding obvious.
Surely if the police are as under-resrouced as we keep hearing, they should stop the namby-pamby cr*p like advising
wits to lock the door on their car / to not leave handbags on the seat / to not leave your DVD in your front garden with a sign saying "please take me". I'm not one to say that someone "deserved" to be a victim of crime, but bad people exist in the world and if you're just stupid then you should be ignored. The insurance companies have established a legal precedent for leaving your car with the keys in it (ie. if it gets stolen) as you had a reasonable duty of car... well its the same thing!
Stupid people should pay more tax...
I thank you!
Pikey
PS. Ooo - just remembered, stupid people DO pay more tax, its called the National Lottery.. or is that a tax on peolpe who're bad at maths? Jury's still out on that one!
xxplod said:
Strange, I've never felt the need to buy these contraptions. Call me old fashioned but I've always found the £1.99 map from a garage perfectly adequate. Given that most people make the same journey every day I've always felt these are just "gadgets" that people want becasue they're the latest thing.
I'm sure they'll be many who may disagree?
I've got a TomTomGo700 (the one with the whole of Europe in) and its staggeringly good.
Most of my driving is pleasure mileage and often my journies are to different destinations. In the last 2 weeks its done a tiny village in Staffordshire and then, France, Germany, Belgium, Luxuemborg with precision accuracy that makes you drive like a local.
Next week I'm on a driving holiday going to Lugano, Florence, Positano, Capri, Ravello, Sienna, Lake Como, Stelvio, St.Anton, Saulon de Rue... and I bet you it takes me round that lot as good as a local.
Think of it as a Magix box!!
Pikey
Who takes his TomTom and suction (hell, its only 1 release lever) out of the car and with him when he leaves it!
tvr_nut said:
Why not remove the TomTom unit, take it with you, and leave the glovebox wide open, proving that there's nothing of value in it? I've done this several times when parking on side streets in London. No need to remove the PDA mount or clean the suction mark off the windscreen.
Or am I missing some blindingly obvious reason why this isn't a good idea?
Quite sensible - BUT... Would need to put any vaguely interesting items from glovebox elsewhere so it was obviously empty, and then there is always the risk they would break into the car to see if anything is in the boot. In a estate/hatchback I suppose you could leave the luggage cover open and remove everything from the boot, but mightly inconvenient to lug all that stuff around with you.
There's nothing interesting in my glovebox, unless the scrote is desperate to blow his nose or find his way around London.
On the Merc you can't open the boot from inside the car so there's no point in the scrote breaking a window to steal something from the boot. They might not know this until they try though...
Surely a good rule of thumb, as Pikey suggests, is to leave nothing of interest in yer motor. Surely scrotes won't break a window to steal a spare wheel and jack??
pikey said:
I've got a TomTomGo700 (the one with the whole of Europe in) and its staggeringly good.
Next week I'm on a driving holiday going to Lugano, Florence, Positano, Capri, Ravello, Sienna, Lake Como, Stelvio, St.Anton, Saulon de Rue... and I bet you it takes me round that lot as good as a local.
I'm sure it will .......... mine just took me around Germany, Switzerland and France without a hitch .............. well, ONE hitch:
Switzerland - about to climb up to the Furka Pass when the TTGo told me to turn left in 100 yards and take the Ferry. Of, course, I did as I was told but the road ended within a few yards at a farm. No lake, no river, no sea ....... and certainly no Ferry!
pikey said:
I might be new to this thread, but for God's sake.... I need to rant...
If someone is so STUPID as to leave their £500 unit on display in their car then there is no helping them.
It is not necessary for police resource that my taxes have paid for to be wasted on pointing out the bleeding obvious.
Surely if the police are as under-resrouced as we keep hearing, they should stop the namby-pamby cr*p like advising
I'm not one to say that someone "deserved" to be a victim of crime, but bad people exist in the world and if you're just stupid then you should be ignored. The insurance companies have established a legal precedent for leaving your car with the keys in it (ie. if it gets stolen) as you had a reasonable duty of car... well its the same thing!
Stupid people should pay more tax...
I thank you!
Pikey
PS. Ooo - just remembered, stupid people DO pay more tax, its called the National Lottery.. or is that a tax on peolpe who're bad at maths? Jury's still out on that one!
Brilliant idea lets focus all our energy on the victim after all it must be there fault there obviously stupid or somthing, so after you get burgled the police should come round and charge you a stupidity tax for not fitting that high teck burglar alarm or forgetting to take your stereo out the car.
Heaven forbid we should punnish the crimnals for a change
xxplod said:
Strange, I've never felt the need to buy these contraptions. Call me old fashioned but I've always found the £1.99 map from a garage perfectly adequate. Given that most people make the same journey every day I've always felt these are just "gadgets" that people want becasue they're the latest thing.
I'm sure they'll be many who may disagree?
Indeed for daily journeys you know well they are utterly pointless.
However mine has got me around various far-flung parts of the UK and more importantly to the Czech Republic and back twice since i got it, and will shortly be taking me east once again.
Within the UK, the speed camera overlays can be a godsend on unfamiliar roads too
This is quiet funny really, sat-nav, as we all know, doesnt work, but you dont find that out until you've bought one So imagine nicking something that doesnt work 
and then trying to flog it down the pub only for scrotes in the know to take the piss.
I wish someone would nick mine, then I can get my money back, I cant get my money back as it stands because although it doesnt work, it's not faulty, they just DONT work!
So imagine nicking something that doesnt work and then trying to flog it down the pub only for scrotes in the know to take the piss. I wish someone would nick mine, then I can get my money back, I cant get my money back as it stands because although it doesnt work, it's not faulty, they just DONT work!
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