Road Angel Navigator 6000

[cptfantastic]

Afternoon guys, hope we all enjoyed Le Mans,

Blackspot have amazed me £250 for a satnav system, why is it so much cheaper than the original Navigator, the maps look better, it has better functionality, MP3 player - not necessary tho i dont think.

http://road-angel.intranetics.co.uk/r

Getting one of those immediately

[cjs]

This looks a great deal, I am looking at buying a new Sat Nav at the moment, I was going to get a Tom Tom One, anyone know how the Road Angel compares on Sat nav performance?

Chris.

[BO55 VXR]

There's no mention of this on the official Black Spot Website

No reason to believe it's not cosha...but as the original RANav was £500, it seems extremely cheap.

I have emailed Blackspot just to make sure.

[beano500]

Looks just the ticket!

Seems to be £249 everywhere. Like the look of the speed screen and generally the spec seems everything you'd need.

Like everyone else, just one question. Is there a catch?

We need to know if anyone's got hold of one yet.....

[cptfantastic]

They do have the 3.99 subscription per month after 6 months but that is what they do with all their products and i dont think you have to fill out the direct debits until after the 6 months if you dont want to. waiting on delivery for mine

[emicen]

I think the catch is quite probably the £143 for european maps!

It looks to be a good unit, can help but wonder though, could one "obtain" the european maps via bit torrent?

[frankferter]

www.drive-smart.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=569

Just saw the guys at Drivesmart are about to Launch the first wide/screen Nav/camera detector system DS MERCURY priced at around £299 with free camera updates for life!
European speed camera data is included and full EU maps half the price of Road Angel or Snooper.
Full MP3/MP4 support and also USB host which is really cool!

Edited by frankferter on Friday 23 June 11:19

[cptfantastic]

is the EU mapping on Bit Torrent for the "old" navigator do you know

[aston67]

I bought a RA and then moved to Snooper Indago for one reason

QUALITY

the RA is rubbish and the warranty is 1 year only. My RA2 packed up after 18 months

the Snooper Indago has a 5 year warranty and it seems to be better built

Avoid the Road Angel products... they are poorly built

A67

[frankferter]

I used a Road Angel Navigator for about 2 weeks and it really was a piece of crap,The satellite lock is also appaling which means its totally usless most of the time for anything.
ASTON how the Fxxx could have you owned a RA navigator for 18 months?
It was only launched end of last summer so thats less than a year ago?
I was really pissed off as UKSPEEDTRAPS said it was the dogs bollox only to find out that site is totally corrupt and the guy who runs it Steve Warren actually works for Road Angel!LOL
I did a deal for the Snooper Indago and that was a big improvement over the RA but still its not all that good.
Misses lots of cameras around London and the SAT lock is also not brilliant.
I sold it a few weeks ago on ebay as no way am I going to get ripped off for £4.00 a month subscription for a database that leaves a lot to be desired.
Anyway my money is on the DS MERCURY right now and looking forward to it as I purchased there Defender2 laser jammer a few weeks ago and its a brilliant bit of kit.

Edited by frankferter on Friday 23 June 17:56

[aston67]

my mistake - I was referring to the RA2 not the navigator

I wanted to upgrade to the Navigator (using the option allowed by the firm) but then the RA2 died slowly (contacts, sat lock...) and I was totally pissed off.

Hence I moved to the Indago and so far so good

apologies for the misunderstanding

A67

[frankferter]

Hi Aston I bet your enjoying all this nice weather with that roof down!
Yes the Road Angel Navigator is the biggest piece of crap and its disgusting that it can even be called a Navigation system.
What is really funny is how people still buy this unit and if there expectations are met with this system it would be like taking a step out of the stone age buying another system!LOL
I had all the horrible GPS reception problems and the screen was going blue all the time and kept making the "Clicking" noise all the time as well,And actually trying to use it was almost impossible as the screen is totally unreadable in sunlight.
I would urge anyone considering buying a Road Angel Navigation unit to seriously take notice of all the criticism that is all over the internet and steer well clear,Don't get suckered in to some marketing hype the end result is a real piece of unusable crap.

[beano500]

Ok - thanks for the feedback, 6000's out...


...back to the drawing board as to which one to get!

[Robin Hood]

Do you not think that they would have sorted out any problems they may have had with the first one before bringing out the new one? There is nothing on their website that explains the differences between the first one and the new one.

My mate bought a Tom Tom 910 the weeks ago and is on his third one. He is taking it back to get his money back which proves that they are not all infallable.

[DennisTheMenace]

Ive got the speed camera database on my tom tom , and my RA2 is sat here on the desk , havent bothered using it since , might as well flog it .

[aston67]

dear PH friends

there are only 2 things in life that are very difficult to buy

a) the right Sat Nav

b) the right DVD recorder

it is a friggin' nightmare!

A67

PS: I recently went to France with the Aston to visit Omaha beash, Juno and all these important historical locations (St. Marie Eglise, etc): people were stopping in all places...

I am going this month in Italy via the Monte Bianco pass to visit Lake Como, Lake Maggiore then a move down to Portofino, bit on the right to Montecarlo then up on the Millau Bridge back to London.

Will take some pics

[frankferter]

Robin Hood said:

Do you not think that they would have sorted out any problems they may have had with the first one before bringing out the new one? There is nothing on their website that explains the differences between the first one and the new one.

My mate bought a Tom Tom 910 the weeks ago and is on his third one. He is taking it back to get his money back which proves that they are not all infallable.

Put it this way if your friend is not happy with the Tomtom he would throw up if he used the Road Angel Navigator products.
I am talking from experience of using the system,Its also terrible and slow for updating(When its actually working)while you are driving,You end up missing your turning as the unit is so slow.
Its also impossible to get through to there technical support on the telephone and they also do not answer e-mails and if they do its like 1 week later.
The company I got the Navigator from told me that the phones lines were engaged at Road Angel because of all the problems and complaints with the Navigator.

[frankferter]

aston67 said:

dear PH friends

there are only 2 things in life that are very difficult to buy

a) the right Sat Nav

b) the right DVD recorder

it is a friggin' nightmare!

A67

PS: I recently went to France with the Aston to visit Omaha beash, Juno and all these important historical locations (St. Marie Eglise, etc): people were stopping in all places...

I am going this month in Italy via the Monte Bianco pass to visit Lake Como, Lake Maggiore then a move down to Portofino, bit on the right to Montecarlo then up on the Millau Bridge back to London.

Will take some pics

LOL
DVD recorders I would forget and go for a high end Hard Disc recorder in fact even the cheaper asain low end ones have progressive scan and component or DVI output.
Wait for a while as all the HD(High Definition)stuff is just round the corner.
Also I would seriously take a look at the DS Mercury for the Navigation.
I would keep the speed camera detection stuff of the dash borad in France with all the over zelous JD'S waiting to bust the nice English people!LOL

[aston67]

if you go on snooper.fr there is a clear reference to the snooper legality. It is not a radar detector. Being a GPS only one is in the clear. You can browse their website and print the necessary material

Ciao!

A67

[frankferter]

aston67 said:

if you go on snooper.fr there is a clear reference to the snooper legality. It is not a radar detector. Being a GPS only one is in the clear. You can browse their website and print the necessary material

Ciao!

A67

Actually the Law in France is that its illegal to have any data that can show you where speed traps are located.