Road Angel Navigator 6000
Discussion
I am not a lawyer and I am not a Vulcan that loves to have always the last word... however!
www.snooper.fr/snooper-faq.php#quest_2
SNOOPER est-il légal ?
Oui, il est légal de posséder et d’utiliser un SNOOPER dans toute l’Europe. D’après l’article R413-15 du code de la route, le SNOOPER ne détecte pas ni n’interfère avec les systèmes de contrôle de vitesse mobile.
I called them and emailed them in France to ask precisely what was their position being as skeptical as you are...
the idea is that if you can DETECT or CONFUSE the speed traps that are NOT fixed then you are in trouble.
but what do I know?
A67
www.snooper.fr/snooper-faq.php#quest_2
SNOOPER est-il légal ?
Oui, il est légal de posséder et d’utiliser un SNOOPER dans toute l’Europe. D’après l’article R413-15 du code de la route, le SNOOPER ne détecte pas ni n’interfère avec les systèmes de contrôle de vitesse mobile.
I called them and emailed them in France to ask precisely what was their position being as skeptical as you are...
the idea is that if you can DETECT or CONFUSE the speed traps that are NOT fixed then you are in trouble.
but what do I know?
A67
Detection, that's a big no, no. Or should I say Non, Non. GPS however, is now fine.
According to ukspeedtraps, the Road Angel 2 sold in france has had the laser detector removed, and that's what makes it legal.
www.roadangel.fr/
According to ukspeedtraps, the Road Angel 2 sold in france has had the laser detector removed, and that's what makes it legal.
www.roadangel.fr/
Robin Hood said:
Detection, that's a big no, no. Or should I say Non, Non. GPS however, is now fine.
According to ukspeedtraps, the Road Angel 2 sold in france has had the laser detector removed, and that's what makes it legal.
www.roadangel.fr/
According to ukspeedtraps, the Road Angel 2 sold in france has had the laser detector removed, and that's what makes it legal.
www.roadangel.fr/
I would forget anything on UKSPEEDTRAPS web site as Steve Warren works for Road Angel!LOL
Robin Hood said:
Detection, that's a big no, no. Or should I say Non, Non. GPS however, is now fine.
According to ukspeedtraps, the Road Angel 2 sold in france has had the laser detector removed, and that's what makes it legal.
www.roadangel.fr/
According to ukspeedtraps, the Road Angel 2 sold in france has had the laser detector removed, and that's what makes it legal.
www.roadangel.fr/
Yes Laser Detection is 100% illegal in France but also so is having a device with a database of known speed traps.
The French can get away with it but if you have that nice GB sticker on the back of your car you are 100% a target.
Robin Hood said:
So what you are saying is that if I drive to France and purchase a Road Angel 2 (one that is modified to be sold in France) it's illegal becuase I am English?
Surely this can't be the case. Your nationality cannot be an issue with regards the law. It's either legal or it isn't.
Surely this can't be the case. Your nationality cannot be an issue with regards the law. It's either legal or it isn't.
LOL your almost right but you try arguing with a JD at the road side and see how far you get,
Apart for Euro500 worse off!LOL
Its mad that having a system for identifying speed traps is illegal in France,The law is that its legal to sell but illegal to use and thats how they get round it,Same as radar detectors used to be here many years ago.
Its Ok for the French to do what they like but they will target UK motorists as they know there is not much you can do and UK drivers are not used to on the spot road side fines either(Unless you can back hander a copper at a speed trap in the UK)
Edited by frankferter on Sunday 25th June 10:06
Edited by frankferter on Sunday 25th June 10:08
err... what IF one does not put the GB sticker?
besides I can suggest to print all of the snooper.fr website material and all the references of the French law mentioned and keep it in the car, just in case one is stopped. Then one can reply in a full informed way.
Otherwise it is abuse but that would be a different story...
besides I can suggest to print all of the snooper.fr website material and all the references of the French law mentioned and keep it in the car, just in case one is stopped. Then one can reply in a full informed way.
Otherwise it is abuse but that would be a different story...
aston67 said:
err... what IF one does not put the GB sticker?
besides I can suggest to print all of the snooper.fr website material and all the references of the French law mentioned and keep it in the car, just in case one is stopped. Then one can reply in a full informed way.
Otherwise it is abuse but that would be a different story...
besides I can suggest to print all of the snooper.fr website material and all the references of the French law mentioned and keep it in the car, just in case one is stopped. Then one can reply in a full informed way.
Otherwise it is abuse but that would be a different story...
You could try your luck,So you think you would win the argument at the side of the road?LOL
I had the Navigator when it first came out and had 2 subsequent units when the others failed.
Very diff to get sat lock, kept freezing, appalling mapping. In short an appalling unit- it should never have been released.
I would love to hear from ANYONE that thinks this unit is good- oh and WHY!
Bought a snooper indago and very pleased with what it does
Very diff to get sat lock, kept freezing, appalling mapping. In short an appalling unit- it should never have been released.
I would love to hear from ANYONE that thinks this unit is good- oh and WHY!
Bought a snooper indago and very pleased with what it does
octane said:
I had the Navigator when it first came out and had 2 subsequent units when the others failed.
Very diff to get sat lock, kept freezing, appalling mapping. In short an appalling unit- it should never have been released.
I would love to hear from ANYONE that thinks this unit is good- oh and WHY!
Bought a snooper indago and very pleased with what it does
Very diff to get sat lock, kept freezing, appalling mapping. In short an appalling unit- it should never have been released.
I would love to hear from ANYONE that thinks this unit is good- oh and WHY!
Bought a snooper indago and very pleased with what it does
I think its good. Sat Lock is not a problem, frozen one in 6 months (turn off and on again to sort) mapping never an issue, warned me of every camera I've come across.
Robin Hood said:
I have emailed Blackspot and Snooper and aksed them for clarification on this. Will report back.
Blackspot never answer e-mails in fact they have terrible customer service via e-mail and it takes hours to get through on the telephone,Well it did when I tried getting through when I had the doggy Road Angel Navigator.
Got mine - blooming marvellous - mapping is amazing and clearer than any others i have seen - for 250 quid its pretty - took me a while to register it with BS online - gave them a call - sorted!
The map is quite bright though. but the night screen is really good. Does take a few seconds to load into different parts of the device. It does say something about UV screens somewhere, i have a UV screen and the 6000 locks onto them almost instantly without an aerial. Directions are clear and can be quite funny at times "Stay on the motorway - for a while"
Easy to programs in locations and there a loads of POIs on the 6000. It updates the camera database in a matter of 2 minutes at most.
Fingers Crossed - i know there were probs with the original Navigator!!
Pete
The map is quite bright though. but the night screen is really good. Does take a few seconds to load into different parts of the device. It does say something about UV screens somewhere, i have a UV screen and the 6000 locks onto them almost instantly without an aerial. Directions are clear and can be quite funny at times "Stay on the motorway - for a while"
Easy to programs in locations and there a loads of POIs on the 6000. It updates the camera database in a matter of 2 minutes at most.
Fingers Crossed - i know there were probs with the original Navigator!!
Pete
Firstly the biggest difference is the functionality of the mapping. The 6000 is basic where you put in a destination and it tells you where to go. The Navigator allows you to view your journey turn by turn and avoid specific parts of that journey if you so wish, and allows you to choose to optimise your journey if you have multiple destinations, e.g. you can say you want to end at one point via here, here, and here and the Navigator will calculate an optimised route for you. On the 6000 though to avoid a part of road you have to choose a diversion based on a given distance for a road block, e.g. 1/2 mile, 1 mile or 3 miles and it looks at your journey and guesses where that roadblock could be. Which to be honest isn't the easiest thing to use. The only other way to avoid a specific road is to know an alternative yourself and put in a destination to go via. They're the main differences I can work out so far.
Hope that helps
Hope that helps
Hi all! Had a RAN when it 1st came out and in 3 weeks had my money back. Bought a Tom Tom One and have not looked back. The reason for my post is this. 6 weeks ago I attended Company Car in Action at Milbrook. In one of the show areas, like a factory unit, were Road Angel. I asked them if they had changed the Road Angel Navigator,I had and returned, as it was my way of having a poke at themn for all the grief it gave me! In his hand showing a lock on, inside a building, was the new RAN. This he said was the new unit and had been completely redesigned fromlistening, more like sheltering from customers comments. Its smaller then the TT1 and although I cannot comment on how good it is I cannot believe they got it wrong this time. Has anyone else got any experiences with it?
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