Indication on roundabouts - please clarify for me

[7mike]

WD39 said:

Thank you 7mike. I think I got out just in time.Reminds me of the time.......

Now that's cleared up, the offside rule? never did understand that.......

[SK425]

WD39 said:

Far too cerebral for me.I think I will now move quietly on to the football page of PH, indicating/signalling as I go.

Not really. It's easy to make it sound over-complicated but it's only the difference between saying things and talking to people.

[RobM77]

WD39 said:

R0G said:

Good senario is this current one -

The only two cars are the one in the junction waiting to emerge and the one intending to turn left into that junction

Whether the one intending to turn in indicates or not, the sensible car waiting to emerge will not start to do so until it is certain about the other and that will always be when they see it slow down and start to turn the wheels ..... so what is the point of the indicator in that senario for either car?

I often indicate in that situation but I've wondered what the point of doing so is because if I am the car waiting to emerge then once the other has gone they will not need to know and I am going to let them do whatever before I do my thing and if I am the one turning in then the other will not move until it is certain of where I am going.

Driving is difficult enough without adding further complications.By not indicating in certain situations we are in danger of creating decision overload.As stated in my previous post it is far better and safer to indicate at all times.Let those around you know your intentions,and take the guessing out of motoring.

Plus the people that only choose to signal when someone they can see would benefit are forgetting that their observation isn't perfect. What if in the above example there was a pedestrian waiting to cross the road up ahead and they can cross easily if the car is turning left, but it'll be a bit of a hurry, but still safe, if that car goes straight on? In that situation a signal would be courteous and help the pedestrian's decision. Can drivers who choose when and when not to signal honestly say that they reliably spot pedestrians 50 metres on from a junction they're taking every single time? I doubt that a 100% hit rate is possible, or even a 75% hit rate. It's not just pedestrians, it's the motorbike you didn't see, or the cyclist, or the half hidden driver waiting to pull out of their driveway etc etc. The only use for selective signalling is to demonstrate to an IAM assessor that you're thinking about your signalling. To be honest though, if you give it some thought, selective signalling just demonstrates an arrogance in one's observation. Advanced driving should be about layers of safety, so if one thing fails, there's a backup and then another backup, like three points of contact climbing a ladder. Stripping back the layers of safety to demonstrate your ability isn't too clever.