Blocked overtake on dash cam.
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Speaking personally, the Q7 was completly wrong and dangerous, but as has been generalised earlier, fairly typical of Q7 drivers everywhere. (From a pig, you expect a grunt)
Years ago, it was Volvos who thought they owned the road, then BMWs, and now mostly Audis.
However my pet hate is the X5, which fills a rear view mirror like no other. Little man, big car.
In fact, there's far too many cars that arouse strong feelings of hate and aggression, why can't we all just have Renaults?
Years ago, it was Volvos who thought they owned the road, then BMWs, and now mostly Audis.
However my pet hate is the X5, which fills a rear view mirror like no other. Little man, big car.
In fact, there's far too many cars that arouse strong feelings of hate and aggression, why can't we all just have Renaults?
You caught him napping... Probably day dreaming of his own self importance. It's clear he tried to block the OP overtake by cutting across. I drive for a living and am not shocked by the Audi drivers tactics. I am not stereotyping, a large number of drivers of premium German cars do the rest no favours whatsoever as a result it's the 'tarnished with the same brush syndrome.' I have come to the conclusion that AUDI stands for Ar$eholes Usually Drive Inconsiderately. And BMW stands for Brainless Moronic W***ers.
At the moment I have a fiat stilo abarth (mock away) and a gsx-r750. A change is needed so I'm looking for a Mitsubishi evo 6.5. I did say that most spoil it for the rest, I have come across a few courteous Audi and BMW drivers but in the main 9 out 10 cars that will cut you up at slip roads, junctions, roundabouts are Audi and BMW drivers. You call it stereotyping, I call it experience. I'm guessing you drive an Audi or BMW?
Personally I find that the rule of "every other driver on the road has just passed their test and is trying to kill you" a much better way of avoiding situations which could involve bad driving of any car.
I own a car and a bike and have access to several others however I dont change my driving habits due to the vehicle I'm controlling.
Which makes your theory of car make = driving style complete nonsense.
I own a car and a bike and have access to several others however I dont change my driving habits due to the vehicle I'm controlling.
Which makes your theory of car make = driving style complete nonsense.
hman said:
Personally I find that the rule of "every other driver on the road has just passed their test and is trying to kill you" a much better way of avoiding situations which could involve bad driving of any car.
I own a car and a bike and have access to several others however I dont change my driving habits due to the vehicle I'm controlling.
Which makes your theory of car make = driving style complete nonsense.
I have the same attitude about other drivers, people will still find amazing ways to surprise you with their stupidity.I own a car and a bike and have access to several others however I dont change my driving habits due to the vehicle I'm controlling.
Which makes your theory of car make = driving style complete nonsense.
I have driven everything from 125cc two strokes to turbo sportscars to HGVs.
This afternoon northbound on the M6 around junction 17 the traffic was slowing in lanes two and three, I saw three drivers go from lane three to lane one undertake then dive and I do mean dive straight back into lane three and have to slam on to avoid rear ending the cars in front, the culprits one Audi two Mercs. The Audi A6 tdi nearly clipped some poor lady in the middle lane in her red Suzuki ignis and put her off reading her map on the steering wheel.
Personally you can't blame the car manufacturer, I actually like some Audis. It's all about image and ego. It used to be reps in vauxhalls, Ford's and bmw's. But brand and image has meant many companies now issue Audi's and BMW's. The company I work for provides Audis to the varied managers of departments you've never understood why the exist except the name sounds 'bluesky'
Nuttypaco said:
At the moment I have a fiat stilo abarth (mock away) and a gsx-r750. A change is needed so I'm looking for a Mitsubishi evo 6.5. I did say that most spoil it for the rest, I have come across a few courteous Audi and BMW drivers but in the main 9 out 10 cars that will cut you up at slip roads, junctions, roundabouts are Audi and BMW drivers. You call it stereotyping, I call it experience. I'm guessing you drive an Audi or BMW?
Evo 6 you say? Now that's an overtake car.VinceFox said:
Evo 6 you say? Now that's an overtake car.
Bought Stilo as needed a car for work, I need a car that can transport 3 kids and the wife and has the ability to put a smile on my face and do the odd track day/sprint. Was looking at the VXR8... But put off by mpg as I pay the tax man enough money already. hman said:
I own a car and a bike and have access to several others however I dont change my driving habits due to the vehicle I'm controlling.
Which makes your theory of car make = driving style complete nonsense.
It doesn't though, does it. Car manufacturers, just like every other manufacturer of consumer goods invest a lot of money in finding out what "sort" of person buys what. Ergo, broadly speaking, the "sort" of person driving one car will have particular tastes/personality traits. No, they won't all be exactly the same but there will be similarities.Which makes your theory of car make = driving style complete nonsense.
Besides, this morning, blocked overtake. The berk had been dawdling all journey up until I decided that in order to go faster than 40mph in the 60 limit I'd have to go round him. Then he turns into Ari Vatanen.
Cheers, Jim
PS The car? Custard-yellow Audi S3. The penis? peanut-sized, I'm guessing.
I haven't read all the other 7 pages of posts
Driving well isn't about doing things by the rule book.
The road ahead might have been clear etc etc but you were going into an NSL, he had a fairly rapid audi and was likely to accelerate. Maybe he was a prat for accelerating and putting you in danger but you should also anticipate this. Big engine'd Audi going into an NSL.
I also thought you were too close to him on the overtake and he had no time to judge your intentions. You saw the road ahead was clear on the inside as you came off the roundabout but he didn't know that, you squeezed through the hatching and him which perhaps angered him and also there is the possibility of missing that split second blind spot between him and the other lane. Plus you gunned it before the NSL.
A safer approach would have been keeping good distance behind, edging out and waiting for his speed to settle.
Your move was quite aggressive i thought and it's a 50/50 which could go either way. You did this against a Q7 which is a "power" I'm important car. I'm not surprised at the outcome.
Safe good driving is more about anticipation than rule following.
Driving well isn't about doing things by the rule book.
The road ahead might have been clear etc etc but you were going into an NSL, he had a fairly rapid audi and was likely to accelerate. Maybe he was a prat for accelerating and putting you in danger but you should also anticipate this. Big engine'd Audi going into an NSL.
I also thought you were too close to him on the overtake and he had no time to judge your intentions. You saw the road ahead was clear on the inside as you came off the roundabout but he didn't know that, you squeezed through the hatching and him which perhaps angered him and also there is the possibility of missing that split second blind spot between him and the other lane. Plus you gunned it before the NSL.
A safer approach would have been keeping good distance behind, edging out and waiting for his speed to settle.
Your move was quite aggressive i thought and it's a 50/50 which could go either way. You did this against a Q7 which is a "power" I'm important car. I'm not surprised at the outcome.
Safe good driving is more about anticipation than rule following.
DJ_AS said:
O/T: used to be really bad in my Ka sometimes: I'd pass someone on the motorway only for them to immediately tailgate as there was clearly now way they were going to get 'done' by a cheap little Ka.
I'm reading through the whole thread (and learning) but will just break off to agree with this. The Ka is the worst car I've had for provoking reactions from other drivers, to the extent that it was often impossible to get past anyone in it. The SportKa was quite bad for it too, but at least you could get past some people in it!
This thread.So many "advanced drivers”, looking into their tarot cards, to see what the other driver will do next.
The OP did a perfectly well executed overtake on a road he knew well. The Q7 driver was a cock, there is no excuse for what he did.
The OP mentions earlier on in his first post that the Q7 driver was trying to "trying to save my life" by preventing him overtaking.
Well done OP with showing restraint.
I think we can come the conclusion that the overtake was fine and regardless if the Audi was more powerful or not he should have NEVER booted it to stop an overtake. OP knew the road as it was his regular route and normally it's safer to do overtakes when the driver is unaware. I think Audi driver woke up and flat out refused to be passed.
Afterwards you can see that it would have been a pointless overtake as there was traffic but he wouldn't have known that. It's a gamble you take as some overtakes save loads of time and others may save seconds.
Afterwards you can see that it would have been a pointless overtake as there was traffic but he wouldn't have known that. It's a gamble you take as some overtakes save loads of time and others may save seconds.
Edited by MartynVRS on Friday 8th June 16:33
I think the audi was in the wrong, but it is posible that it did not see you at first then just tried to get out of your way in case you both braked to avoid a head on with on comming cars.
I get this a lot and often wonder what i should do, here is my situation.
Small village lets call it Pirbright, 30 mph then 20mph past a school then back to 30 then open, all on narrow roads. When it goes to open there is a nice long very straight if slightly bummpy road.
I will do the speed limit through the village then accelerate to 60 in the open section. Lots and I mean lots of cars sit up my boot in the lower limits as they like to do 40 everywhere. When we get to the open they pull out to try and over take, at this point I am starting to speed up to 60, I should at this point say that I drive a very yellow TVR.
Should I keep my foot down and not let them get past up to 60 or should I lift off and then sit behind them at 40 for the next few miles. Or wait for them to pull in then overtake.
I have tried all three and which ever way you go you get flashed and the finger its a no win situation.
I get this a lot and often wonder what i should do, here is my situation.
Small village lets call it Pirbright, 30 mph then 20mph past a school then back to 30 then open, all on narrow roads. When it goes to open there is a nice long very straight if slightly bummpy road.
I will do the speed limit through the village then accelerate to 60 in the open section. Lots and I mean lots of cars sit up my boot in the lower limits as they like to do 40 everywhere. When we get to the open they pull out to try and over take, at this point I am starting to speed up to 60, I should at this point say that I drive a very yellow TVR.
Should I keep my foot down and not let them get past up to 60 or should I lift off and then sit behind them at 40 for the next few miles. Or wait for them to pull in then overtake.
I have tried all three and which ever way you go you get flashed and the finger its a no win situation.
pblake said:
I think the audi was in the wrong, but it is posible that it did not see you at first then just tried to get out of your way in case you both braked to avoid a head on with on comming cars.
I get this a lot and often wonder what i should do, here is my situation.
Small village lets call it Pirbright, 30 mph then 20mph past a school then back to 30 then open, all on narrow roads. When it goes to open there is a nice long very straight if slightly bummpy road.
I will do the speed limit through the village then accelerate to 60 in the open section. Lots and I mean lots of cars sit up my boot in the lower limits as they like to do 40 everywhere. When we get to the open they pull out to try and over take, at this point I am starting to speed up to 60, I should at this point say that I drive a very yellow TVR.
Should I keep my foot down and not let them get past up to 60 or should I lift off and then sit behind them at 40 for the next few miles. Or wait for them to pull in then overtake.
I have tried all three and which ever way you go you get flashed and the finger its a no win situation.
If you have loads of power, i would be inclined to accelerate as long as you do not increase the amount of time that the other car is in danger by being on the wrong side of the road, but you shouldnt wait until the car overtaking is alongside you.I get this a lot and often wonder what i should do, here is my situation.
Small village lets call it Pirbright, 30 mph then 20mph past a school then back to 30 then open, all on narrow roads. When it goes to open there is a nice long very straight if slightly bummpy road.
I will do the speed limit through the village then accelerate to 60 in the open section. Lots and I mean lots of cars sit up my boot in the lower limits as they like to do 40 everywhere. When we get to the open they pull out to try and over take, at this point I am starting to speed up to 60, I should at this point say that I drive a very yellow TVR.
Should I keep my foot down and not let them get past up to 60 or should I lift off and then sit behind them at 40 for the next few miles. Or wait for them to pull in then overtake.
I have tried all three and which ever way you go you get flashed and the finger its a no win situation.
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