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Jon999

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391 posts

36 months

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Tuesday 24th July 2012 quote quote all
S. Gonzales Esq. said:
Overtaking defensively would probably involve assessing the target a bit more than was the case here.

Waiting until the NSL to see how the Audi reacts would have been good, as would the classic 'triangle' overtake. Using this technique, you get a good indication of how the target will react to being overtaken before committing to anything.
Mmm disagree. By pulling out early I had plenty of time to react whatever the q7 did hence even though he intentionally blocked me there was no danger as I still had a clear line of sight to the road ahead. You can kind of tell in the video that the bend is slight with good visibility so in theory I could have kept going but was sensible to first come off the accelerator then moderarely apply the brakes (you can see the car pitch down then down a little more in the video this is when the Audi hoots off) as it was clear at that point the Audi was playing games. Attempting later would have just made the situation worse as I guarantee he would have reacted in the same way leaving me with very little time to decide what to do.

Don't think this thread will ever end. Interesting to get everyone's opinions though.

Edited by Jon999 on Tuesday 24th July 13:11

Track Rod

78 posts

35 months

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Tuesday 24th July 2012 quote quote all
Is this thread still going? Hasn't anyone got any work to do?

rev-erend

18,272 posts

172 months

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Tuesday 24th July 2012 quote quote all
The video had shades of Hamilton vs Maldonardo in it ..


Cyrus1971

819 posts

127 months

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Tuesday 31st July 2012 quote quote all
Audi was out of order for sure, increasing risk and danger to himself, you and the oncoming stream of traffic, in the wet. Clearly a retard in need of a physics lesson and a larger dick.

To be honest I probably have and would overtake in the same way as you did but perhaps not in a diesel Mondeo. To be sure this is not a go at your motor BTW, fine cars that they are.

I do also think that with a bit less haste on your part coming off the roundabout, say just 25 feet more before beginning your overtake would have shown a "respect" (what ever that is) for the Audi driver, and your haste would not have been open an interpretation of " you are my inconvenience " in quite the same way.

Overall though if one drives one has to be tolerant of mistakes and weirdness’s on the road, regardless of rules and the highway code. Placing others in genuine danger though is not forgivable. As a test - if you were an undercover police car and he did that he would be 100% done for it I think.

Cyrus1971

819 posts

127 months

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Tuesday 31st July 2012 quote quote all
BTW OP what dash cam are you using please ? Quality is pretty good. Might get one for myself.
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Jon999

Original Poster:

391 posts

36 months

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Tuesday 31st July 2012 quote quote all
Cyrus1971 said:
BTW OP what dash cam are you using please ? Quality is pretty good. Might get one for myself.
DOD gs300. Think I'm going to sell it as I've had a company car for a couple of months now and it's just sat on the shelf doing nothing in its box as I'm not allowed to hard wire it into my new car and I'm not a fan of wires all over. Pm me if you want (if it's allowed on here).

Blackvue hd is another good camera as is DOD gs600 (adds gps speed overlay to mine ).

MC Bodge

6,650 posts

63 months

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Wednesday 1st August 2012 quote quote all
This thread began in March and is still going.

So, was the blocked overtake out of order then?

S. Gonzales Esq.

1,972 posts

100 months

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Wednesday 1st August 2012 quote quote all
MC Bodge said:
So, was the blocked overtake out of order then?
I'd be happy to try to summarise:

• Starting an overtake before reaching the NSL was not ideal behaviour by the OP.
• Accelerating whilst being overtaken, and moving out towards the centre line was extremely poor behaviour from the Audi driver.
• Engaging with the Audi driver afterwards was possibly the biggest error of all.

Looking at the OP's other YouTube videos, he does seem to have a habit of making basic errors whilst complaining about the actions of others.



MC Bodge

6,650 posts

63 months

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Thursday 2nd August 2012 quote quote all
S. Gonzales Esq. said:
MC Bodge said:
So, was the blocked overtake out of order then?
I'd be happy to try to summarise:

• Starting an overtake before reaching the NSL was not ideal behaviour by the OP.
• Accelerating whilst being overtaken, and moving out towards the centre line was extremely poor behaviour from the Audi driver.
• Engaging with the Audi driver afterwards was possibly the biggest error of all.

Looking at the OP's other YouTube videos, he does seem to have a habit of making basic errors whilst complaining about the actions of others.
Thanks. I thought that this had been established months ago though.



JM

2,180 posts

94 months

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Thursday 2nd August 2012 quote quote all
S. Gonzales Esq. said:
Looking at the OP's other YouTube videos, he does seem to have a habit of making basic errors whilst complaining about the actions of others.
Also a pretty poor taste in music.




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Linus27

152 posts

100 months

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Saturday 11th August 2012 quote quote all
My view is the driver overtaking did not show enough respect to the Audi driver by not making his intentions clear and by carrying out the overtake move too quickly and with too much aggression. He had made his mind up he was going to overtake pre roundabout as he accelerates hard upon exiting the roundabout, across it and then pulls out without warning before the NSL zone. The Audi driver was not given any opportunity to increase his speed as by the time he got to the NSL he had the Mondeo pull out alongside.

The Audi driver however reacted very badly to the situation and reacted with aggression rather than acting passively and backing down.

Both drivers were at fault. The overtaking driver being too eager and inpatient, not making his intentions clear and not showing enough respect to other road users. There really was not need for the pass. The Audi driver reacted aggresivly and put both road users at risk. Two wrong's in my book.

JamesR32

534 posts

84 months

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Tuesday 14th August 2012 quote quote all
Jon999 said:
I also have the part where we pulled over and had a little discussion about his antics and he insisted that he was "trying to save my life" by preventing me overtaking. Crazy.

View for yourselves anyway smile

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LR5aummuFjw
I have to say that overtake looked totally kosher. As for his excuse, he put you in more danger by keeping you on the opposite side of the road for longer than necessary so his argument is invalid.
Typical cock Audi driver (not stereotyping of course)

Observer2

722 posts

113 months

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Friday 17th August 2012 quote quote all
Linus27 said:
My view is the driver overtaking did not show enough respect to the Audi driver by not making his intentions clear and by carrying out the overtake move too quickly and with too much aggression. He had made his mind up he was going to overtake pre roundabout as he accelerates hard upon exiting the roundabout, across it and then pulls out without warning before the NSL zone. The Audi driver was not given any opportunity to increase his speed as by the time he got to the NSL he had the Mondeo pull out alongside.

The Audi driver however reacted very badly to the situation and reacted with aggression rather than acting passively and backing down.

Both drivers were at fault. The overtaking driver being too eager and inpatient, not making his intentions clear and not showing enough respect to other road users. There really was not need for the pass. The Audi driver reacted aggresivly and put both road users at risk. Two wrong's in my book.
+1

buymeabar

73 posts

77 months

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Saturday 25th August 2012 quote quote all
Utter fk monkey in the Q7. I quite liked the music though, which track is it, please?

KimZ

225 posts

102 months

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Saturday 25th August 2012 quote quote all
Efbe said:
what a complete nob that audi driver is.
+1.

Good visibility - no reason not to go for that o/t imo. Vorsprung durch tosspot!

k99

283 posts

56 months

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Thursday 30th August 2012 quote quote all
Agreed the Q7 was wrong but we don't know what might have happened beforehand that could change the mentality of the Q7 driver and put more responsibility on the incident on the Mondeo.
Just say for instance that long before the village the Q7 was travelling at quite a pace and overtook a Sunday driver in a Mondeo. The Mondeo driver takes umbrage with the overtake, speeds up and eventually catches up the Q7 in the village.
As they exit the village the Q7 is waiting for the NSL before accelerating away. Meanwhile the Mondeo is trying to overtake him. What would you do?
Of course you should let the Mondeo overtake but if what I had described had happened beforehand - would you hand on heart do that?
All the above is hypothetical but may explain why the Q7 driver acted the way he did or why sometimes a driver may try and block your overtake. I not trying to defend his dangerous driving but sometimes people will do this if they have had their hackles raised by another driver.
Whenever I overtake cars, I always keep an eye on the car afterwards in case they have taken umbrage and want revenge.
Often happens you will get flashed for carrying out a completely safe overtake within the speed limits but others drivers don't see it that way and will try and overtake you because you have had the ordacity to pass them.

matthias73

2,197 posts

38 months

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Friday 21st September 2012 quote quote all
So you want to get in front of a someone, and he decides he would rather be in front. Rather than let you pass, and then overtake you where there might not be an opportunity, he just boots it to let you know that actually, he is staying in front. That might seem selfish and foolish of him, but its no worse than your desire to be in front of him.

Given the fact you started before the NSL, he was probably waiting for the sign until he gave it propper gas, I can't actually blame him.

Had it been later in the NSl, he wasn't doing speed, you went to overtake and he blocked, then yes, it wouldn't be excusable in the slightest.

In my opinion, two large egos on a small road.

(Thats not to say you are a bad person, or that the audi driver is bad. I'm sure you are quite agreeable, albiet in a hurry)


simoid

13,312 posts

46 months

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Friday 21st September 2012 quote quote all
matthias73 said:
So you want to get in front of a someone, and he decides he would rather be in front. Rather than let you pass, and then overtake you where there might not be an opportunity, he just boots it to let you know that actually, he is staying in front. That might seem selfish and foolish of him, but its no worse than your desire to be in front of him.

Given the fact you started before the NSL, he was probably waiting for the sign until he gave it propper gas, I can't actually blame him.

Had it been later in the NSl, he wasn't doing speed, you went to overtake and he blocked, then yes, it wouldn't be excusable in the slightest.

In my opinion, two large egos on a small road.

(Thats not to say you are a bad person, or that the audi driver is bad. I'm sure you are quite agreeable, albiet in a hurry)
Are you trolling?

That's all very well, but you should either maintain a constant speed when being overtaken, or slow down a bit to allow the overtaker safe passage. Certainly you shouldn't accelerate and potentially leave them stranded in the face of oncoming traffic.

zygalski

2,133 posts

33 months

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Friday 21st September 2012 quote quote all
Linus27 said:
...and by carrying out the overtake move too quickly...
Not nearly quickly enough, imo.

Jon999

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391 posts

36 months

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Friday 21st September 2012 quote quote all
zygalski said:
Not nearly quickly enough, imo.
It was flat out. I apologise if a mapped 2.2 litre diesel Mondeo isn't fast enough for you. IMO it is more than capable of overtaking swiftly as demonstrated here (despite the overtaken c2 having a hissy fit prompting me to save the clip and review it) http://youtu.be/F5_lgMPyoHM just no match for a 4.2 litre Audi.
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