Blocked overtake on dash cam.

Blocked overtake on dash cam.

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Distant

2,343 posts

193 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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Mad Chemist said:
....we have all done both of these during our driving careers.....
I have NEVER tried to out accelerate someone overtaking me. That sort of behaviour is utterly appalling and reserved for complete spacktards who should be charged with attempted murder. I am sure few on here have ever tried such a stupid move.

No matter the rights and wrongs of the OPs overtake, (and I don't think it was that bad) the Audi driver reacted in the worst possible way, making the situation much more dangerous. Full credit to the OP for aborting so promptly.

Mad Chemist

30 posts

157 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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Distant,

I wasn't clear enough. I have put my foot down on a dual carriage way when some idiot tried to undertake me when I was making good progress in a queue of other traffic in the overtaking lane - I did feel badly about this. However, I HAVE NEVER put my foot down whilst someone was overtaking me. Sorry for the confusion.

Mad.

Mikebentley

6,097 posts

140 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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Jon999 said:
Mikebentley said:
Jon999 if my comments seemed off then I apologise as new to forums. I've calmed a lot nowadays with kids etc. but I've driven far worse myself. Why do you run the camera? Is it just to catch the crazy things we all see?
Mike
Don't worry no offence taken smile

I run the camera to have a proper record in the event of an accident and to hopefully catch any parking damage etc. Provides CCTV coverage of the house whilst the car is parked up too. Also is a good educational tool like in this instance - I should have backed off earlier and should not have flashed it achieved nothing (but it is quite hard to control yourself in these situations!). I'd post up more videos but they'd turn into massive never ending threads like this one.

The Q7 wasn't just making progress he was flat out like myself - but only once he realised he was being overtaken. When he pulled over further up the road he said that he was trying to save my life by preventing the overtake, not that he was making normal progress. what camera do you use, like the idea of the CCTV aspect when car on drive facing house

As stated previously the Mondeo wasn't exactly slow (in my eyes anyway) and had more than adequate power to overtake in the distance given no silly antics. Vision is good right round the bend hence no danger posed despite the Q7's reaction.

Edited by Jon999 on Thursday 8th November 20:28


Edited by Jon999 on Thursday 8th November 20:30

XTR2Turbo

1,533 posts

231 months

Friday 9th November 2012
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Op completely in the wrong.

It was an aggressive, inconsiderate and illegal overtake.

The audi was clearly not delaying the op and actually entered the roundabout at a speed that showed me he was going to be making progress.

But he respected the speed limit and waited correctly before accelerating.

I suspect he would have accelerated just as hard as he did with the op behind him still.

The op wanted to force himself past rather than needed to and drove aggressively as he knew it was the only way it would allow him to stand a chance of getting past the quicker car.

There are lots of posts on here about getting flashed when overtaking and wondering why. This is a good example. You are exceeding a restricted speed limit and your actions shout aggression that rightly or wrongly other drivers will more often than not respond to.

If you had sat behind him after the nsl and he didn't accelerate until you attempted to overtake then you may have something to complain about. As it is your need to reflect on your own driving before worrying about someone else.

Guvs

38 posts

142 months

Saturday 10th November 2012
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XTR2Turbo said:
Op completely in the wrong.

It was an aggressive, inconsiderate and illegal overtake.

The audi was clearly not delaying the op and actually entered the roundabout at a speed that showed me he was going to be making progress.

But he respected the speed limit and waited correctly before accelerating.

I suspect he would have accelerated just as hard as he did with the op behind him still.

The op wanted to force himself past rather than needed to and drove aggressively as he knew it was the only way it would allow him to stand a chance of getting past the quicker car.

There are lots of posts on here about getting flashed when overtaking and wondering why. This is a good example. You are exceeding a restricted speed limit and your actions shout aggression that rightly or wrongly other drivers will more often than not respond to.

If you had sat behind him after the nsl and he didn't accelerate until you attempted to overtake then you may have something to complain about. As it is your need to reflect on your own driving before worrying about someone else.
As I said in the first thread on top of this page, but I must admit written in a lot more detail.
Guvs.

RJJ

360 posts

198 months

Saturday 10th November 2012
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A tough one this IMO.

No way should the Audi have accelerated to block your overtake, puts you at risk overtaking & also the Audi, as a collision there could have collected you both.

Flip side, I personally would have not chosen to overtake there, seems you were making good progress anyway.

Not sure how it would have gone down in the view of a police traffic officer ?

IAM Joe

16 posts

166 months

Sunday 11th November 2012
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Both totally in the wrong. Poor judgement from the OP attempting the overtake and terrible reaction from the Audi driver (although I'm not surprised from someone driving one of those). Both drivers should have the book thrown at them for dangerous driving.

OP, I hope you don't think this is advanced driving or from your username, you're a Police Officer. The only good thing about this is to use as an example of how not to drive on both accounts. Also seen your double overtake on the other YouTube clip you have and that is equally dangerous. Lucky the motorcyclist coming the other way didn't decide to overtake the lead car!

The most dangerous thing about the whole situation was the fact you pulled over and 'had a chat'. It's examples like this were you see people getting knifed, especially with the sort of people you sometimes find driving cars like that in that manner.

A lucky escape and can only hope you learn from these 'experiences'

TheRacingSnake

1,817 posts

163 months

Monday 12th November 2012
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oh my......a Q7 driver behaving like King tt Who Owns All Roads. I would never have believed it if I hadn't seen it here.

silly Ahem.

This happens a lot. I started a thread here about it

http://pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f...

I think the general consensus was that a Q7 driver probably thinks that you and your Mondeo have no right to be overtaking King tt Who Owns All Roads.

You know what they say about a guy driving a biiiiiiig car.......

gangzoom

6,284 posts

215 months

Friday 30th November 2012
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Was there any need to try and overtake in the first place?

If some idiot comes steaming up my rear bumper barely after leaving a round about I say that's pretty aggressive/dangerous driving.

Speeding up to block a overtake is clearly worse but the video is an excellent demonstration of the rubbish standard of driving on our roads!


Edited by gangzoom on Friday 30th November 02:08

jgs82

51 posts

182 months

Friday 30th November 2012
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TheRacingSnake said:
You know what they say about a guy driving a biiiiiiig car.......
High fuel bills? Expensive servicing? Anyone can be a , it's got nothing to do with the size of the car ....

jaspermolly

19 posts

136 months

Friday 7th December 2012
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Very poor planning from the op,no anticipation of what the target vehicle driver might do , no pride in driving or road position.

Why drive through the hatch markings!yes you could enter them but only when safe and when you need too you did not need to,try showing some pride in your driving and keep you car in the correct road position.These hatch marking are also full of nails screws glass etc.punctures spring to mind.

You did not anticipate the action of the target vehicle you had made your mind up that the overtake was on before you had even exited the mouth of the roundabout,you started the overtake before you had even reached the NSL sign you where far to close to the target vehicle you pulled out very aggressive,did you bother to even indicate!did you not think the other driver might also try and make progress.Very very poor driving.

The other driver played a part in this too if he would have done a mirror check on approach to the roundabout which he did not or he would have signaled his intentions, and again when exciting he would have known you where there which makes me think he had not even checked his mirrors,in his defense he would not expect anyone to overtake as early as you did not excuse for him to close the door on you when you tried.


Mods you are going to see a lot more of me on here it makes me sick when I see someone get it wrong and then blame everyone else,take responsibility for you own actions.

Jaspermolly








TheLordJohn

5,746 posts

146 months

Friday 7th December 2012
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Mods you are going to see a lot more of me....!?

You sounds like a right barrel of laughs.

(Sorry, I meant utter gimp)

Crafty_

13,279 posts

200 months

Friday 7th December 2012
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Nice first post.

Not.

jaspermolly

19 posts

136 months

Sunday 9th December 2012
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Gimp that's a very brave statement to make while your sitting behind the safety of your key board I wonder if you would say that to my face if you ever met me!

I can imagine you to be someone who mouths off on the road and then when asked to pull over drive off I meet your type everyday all mouth and no Balls.I am just a normal guy who is very passionate and professional about driving,is that not what this forum is about.

Jaspermolly

jaspermolly

19 posts

136 months

Sunday 9th December 2012
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"Nice first post"

Thanks for the warm welcome sorry if you could not understand my post it must be a bit advanced for you.

Jaspermolly

nick heppinstall

8,073 posts

280 months

Sunday 9th December 2012
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jaspermolly said:
Mods you are going to see a lot more of me on here it makes me sick when I see someone get it wrong and then blame everyone else,take responsibility for you own actions.

Jaspermolly
Have the Mods anything to worry about then ?

Robb F

4,568 posts

171 months

Sunday 9th December 2012
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BertBert

19,025 posts

211 months

Sunday 9th December 2012
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It seems to me Jasper (if you don't mind me observing) that you have posted quite aggressively in an antagonistic and self-aggrandizing fashion. I'm not surprised at the reaction you have got!
Bert

nick heppinstall

8,073 posts

280 months

Sunday 9th December 2012
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Anyway ..... Lets keep it on topic shall we ?

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 9th December 2012
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better to close thread nothing new to discuss and it will probably end up going into a hang bags at dawn...