Blocked overtake on dash cam.

Blocked overtake on dash cam.

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TheLordJohn

5,746 posts

145 months

Sunday 9th December 2012
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BertBert said:
It seems to me Jasper (if you don't mind me observing) that you have posted quite aggressively in an antagonistic and self-aggrandizing fashion. I'm not surprised at the reaction you have got!
Bert
Summed it up.

AlfaRSpider

152 posts

138 months

Sunday 9th December 2012
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jaspermolly said:
Mods you are going to see a lot more of me on here it makes me sick when I see someone get it wrong and then blame everyone else,take responsibility for you own actions.

Jaspermolly
I'd put money on this guy being the Audi driver wink

nick heppinstall

8,047 posts

279 months

Sunday 9th December 2012
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Which part of keep it on topic didn't you get ?

jaspermolly

19 posts

135 months

Sunday 9th December 2012
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nick heppinstall said:
Which part of keep it on topic didn't you get ?
Now that's funny wink

jaspermolly

19 posts

135 months

Sunday 9th December 2012
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quite aggressively in an antagonistic and self-aggrandizing fashion. I'm not surprised at the reaction you have got!

Is this a summery of how the op drives!

Jaspermolly

Bohally

943 posts

146 months

Sunday 9th December 2012
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jaspermolly said:
quite aggressively in an antagonistic and self-aggrandizing fashion. I'm not surprised at the reaction you have got!

Is this a summery of how the op drives!

Jaspermolly
Haven't you got homework due for tomorrow?

Rollcage

11,327 posts

191 months

Sunday 9th December 2012
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Both the overtakes the OP has linked to are verging on marginal, but for different reasons. The Q7 one is too aggressive IMO, and the other Renault/Citroen had no saftey margin from what I could see.

The thing is though, what was the point of either if them? Both were in a traffic flow that wasn't especially fast - it was/would have meant just cruising up to the next person in the queue.

I like to make progress whatever car I'm driving, but if an overtake means I'll just be one car ahead in a stream of traffic, I won't bother.

jaspermolly

19 posts

135 months

Sunday 9th December 2012
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Sorry son I am a little bit old to be doing homework.

nick heppinstall

8,047 posts

279 months

Sunday 9th December 2012
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jaspermolly is taking a break from the thread .... On topic please.

vonhosen

40,171 posts

216 months

Sunday 9th December 2012
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Rollcage said:
Both the overtakes the OP has linked to are verging on marginal, but for different reasons. The Q7 one is too aggressive IMO, and the other Renault/Citroen had no saftey margin from what I could see.

The thing is though, what was the point of either if them? Both were in a traffic flow that wasn't especially fast - it was/would have meant just cruising up to the next person in the queue.

I like to make progress whatever car I'm driving, but if an overtake means I'll just be one car ahead in a stream of traffic, I won't bother.
You take one now so that you are better placed should/when the next one becomes available. Just because the next isn't available right now isn't a reason to turn down one now. Traffic movement is dynamic & gaps/flow may change in the future. If you are intent on making all reasonable available progress then you take them as they become available.

(That's an aside from whether the OP's were available & reasonable, because I haven't looked at them).

Rollcage

11,327 posts

191 months

Sunday 9th December 2012
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Fair enough VH.

Sometimes I find it better (or easier) just to take a few minutes longer these days!

Allroader

6 posts

151 months

Monday 31st December 2012
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I'm sure the Q7 was an auto and they were making good progress and were going to speed up at the NSL, once they reached it. The OP possibly knew the road better than the Q7 driver and took an opportunity to obtain a better view ahead once the traffic ahead was reached. Given the road knowledge and timing, the overtake was on, in theory, but it's always a risk when the other car is entering a higher speed limit. The Q7 was always going to accelerate up to the NSL at least and if he hadn't slammed his foot down in a poor reaction to the OP reading the road ahead, the torque would have kept him ahead all the way. The kick-down by up to two gears is why the Audi didn't stay ahead and why it shot away eventually (coupled with OP sensible response).

Message to Audi driver; you should have let OP past as once someone's committed to an overtake and is actually ahead, even slightly, you must let them in. AKA, you've been caught with your pants down and your reaction was 'premature'. Use the OP's local knowledge to make progress in future overtakes if that's what you really want to do.

Lessons to be learnt:
Audi driver; use you mirrors first not your side window and avoid kick-down by using the paddles to be in the right gear if you intend accelerating properly (you did add the option?). I find one or two uses of 90% throttle in the right gears usually informs those following that I can be relied upon to make progress when the traffic ahead is under the speed limit and a safe overtake is on. It helps those following calm down a bit when behind nose-to-tail non-overtakers going 50 in a NSL.

OP; Overtaking a car that is also going to accelerate will continue to test your powers of restraint and one day, emergency braking.



Daggers89

905 posts

159 months

Monday 31st December 2012
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That looks like Curborough to me!

ModernAndy

2,094 posts

134 months

Wednesday 2nd January 2013
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cheddar said:
blueg33 said:
Unless that Q7 was the big petrol engine, my diesel saloon would out drag it smile
Don't think it would.

Even in 3.0tdi guise Q7's aren't slow, if it's the 4.2 oiler then you're done for.

And if the chip tuning brigade have been let loose on it then it's all over.

Oh, and did I mention the 738lbft V12 diesel Q7.......
Sorry to dig up one of the older posts on this thread but having driven both the 4.2 TDi Q7 and a chipped one too, they're not worth underestimating. They can absolutely fly in a straight line and the chipped one was able to make noticeable tyre squeal from all 4 corners under just moderate acceleration through town. You won't find a much more torquey car on the road.

piers703

2 posts

134 months

Wednesday 16th January 2013
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I have just been accused of dangerous driving by pulling in on a person like this when I was 7/8 the way past him . Both he and I were continuing to accelerate and soon there was a car coming in the opposite direction. I believed I had to pull in and did so rather agressivly and am now being done. Does anyone have any legal advice as to my position? There was no contact between the two of us but I seriously thought the guy was trying to kill me. No witnesses his word against mine.

k99

544 posts

167 months

Wednesday 16th January 2013
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How can you be done if there were no witnesses?

piers703

2 posts

134 months

Wednesday 16th January 2013
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I was interviewed by the police and told them the truth. Normal overtaking manouver within speed limit,to start. As I am just about to get past the guy starts to accelerate in line with meand holds me in the oncoming lane. Told the truth because I carn't believe I am in the wrong.

k99

544 posts

167 months

Wednesday 16th January 2013
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Oh dear, as Thumper the rabbit said, if you can't say something nice don't say anything at all.
You need to provide more info on the circumstances as from what you've said so far it difficult to see how a disagreement whilst overtaking with no witnesses ends up with the plod involved and you being done.
If you are being charged with dangerous driving - You need to get advice from a solicitor that specialises in this type of case.
Also get the thread moved over to SP&L as you've posted in the wrong forum. You'll get lots more response on there.

Wills2

22,612 posts

174 months

Monday 21st January 2013
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Yes OP was assertive and yes the Q7 looked to be making half decent progress through the preceeding footage, but there is no excuse for the Audi drivers actions.

Plainly you were committed to the overtake and he should have let you past.

Although I would be careful when you stop to discuss another drivers behaviour with them remember Kenneth Noye?