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MC Bodge
3,812 posts
44 months
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...Discuss barely relevant minutiae of driving at enormous length.
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7mike
2,053 posts
62 months
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MC Bodge said: ...Discuss barely relevant minutiae of driving at enormous length. Considering the number of; “How should I have dealt with this?” “Whose fault would this have been?” “Was I wrong to overtake 96 cars in one go?” “Is it ok to drive with one hand whilst picking my nose?” type threads on here it’s hardly surprising is it!
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blueg33
Original Poster
10,730 posts
93 months
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7mike said: Considering the number of; “How should I have dealt with this?” “Whose fault would this have been?” “Was I wrong to overtake 96 cars in one go?” “Is it ok to drive with one hand whilst picking my nose?” type threads on here it’s hardly surprising is it! inflated sense of superiority QED 
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7mike
2,053 posts
62 months
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blueg33 said: inflated sense of superiority QED Or just bored and should be getting on with some paperwork, fair enough though.
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MC Bodge
3,812 posts
44 months
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The mark of the truly ADVANCED driver... To negotiate a slight bend in the road:  To negotiate a long sweeping curve: To negotiate an oil slick covered ice rink:
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Pugsey
5,665 posts
83 months
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Anyone who thinks they can spot an 'advanced' (yuk) driver without actually being in the car with them at the time...............................
In fact anyone who can be bothered to look out for 'advanced' drivers.
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AW8
248 posts
80 months
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The steering illustration for varying situations did make me chuckle.
Roadcraft manuals of recent years have clearly indicated a need for more modern thinking, be it brake gear overlap, hands past 12 o'clock or driving todays cars as designed to be driven, (ie. Not like a 1960's Wolseley on empty roads).
Sadly some advanced folk fail to embrace above & this which merely fuels the cynics who regard many advanced techniques as uncool.
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juliethotel
72 posts
18 months
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The one's who, when walking through the supermarket, slow almost to a halt when approaching the end of an aisle, treating it like a t-junction or crossroads (or is it just me that does that?).
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goldblum
6,777 posts
36 months
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From what I've seen on the AD threads I'm glad the posters and contributors have taken the opportunity to sharpen their skills.Judging by the incredible length and mundanity of some of the discussions they don't seem to possess either the energy or common sense most other people do to make important decisions promptly and avoid trouble in a car.Make no mistake..most of them need the extra training.
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MC Bodge
3,812 posts
44 months
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goldblum said: From what I've seen on the AD threads I'm glad the posters and contributors have taken the opportunity to sharpen their skills.Judging by the incredible length and mundanity of some of the discussions they don't seem to possess either the energy or common sense most other people do to make important decisions promptly and avoid trouble in a car.Make no mistake..most of them need the extra training. Much of the debate does seem to lose sight of the fact that observation, awareness (of surroundings and vehicle), smoothness, giving yourself space and planning/avoidance of difficult situations are the important aspects of driving/riding. How exactly you achieve these things, When exactly you depress the clutch, whether or not you shift into a lower gear before stoppping whether or not you brake, change gear, steer entirely separately at all times (apart from when you don't) how exactly you grip the wheel whether you always pull the wheel before pushing or vice-versa etc. are actually quite minor issues and arguably make very little difference to safety or 'fluid', harmonious driving or interaction with other road users. As for a debate about whether you pass a very slow moving car on a slip-road on the left. Is it that difficult to decide?
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Pugsey
5,665 posts
83 months
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MC Bodge said: goldblum said: From what I've seen on the AD threads I'm glad the posters and contributors have taken the opportunity to sharpen their skills.Judging by the incredible length and mundanity of some of the discussions they don't seem to possess either the energy or common sense most other people do to make important decisions promptly and avoid trouble in a car.Make no mistake..most of them need the extra training. Much of the debate does seem to lose sight of the fact that observation, awareness (of surroundings and vehicle), smoothness, giving yourself space and planning/avoidance of difficult situations are the important aspects of driving/riding. How exactly you achieve these things, When exactly you depress the clutch, whether or not you shift into a lower gear before stoppping whether or not you brake, change gear, steer entirely separately at all times (apart from when you don't) how exactly you grip the wheel whether you always pull the wheel before pushing or vice-versa etc. are actually quite minor issues and arguably make very little difference to safety or 'fluid', harmonious driving or interaction with other road users. As for a debate about whether you pass a very slow moving car on a slip-road on the left. Is it that difficult to decide? Absolutely spot on. If I passenger with someone who gets me from A to B smoothly, safely, swiftly and decisively, never commenting or seeming to be effected by (or indeed effecting) other road users and probably chatting about anything OTHER than driving then I frankly don't give a monkey's what'sit HOW he/she does all those mundane things you mention.
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wst
1,064 posts
30 months
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A lot of the AD threads tend to turn into micromanaging exercises and ignore the bigger picture. "Sorry I hit your kid but did you see my lack of brake/gear overlap?!"
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yorkshirephil
85 posts
28 months
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Anyone who somehow thinks driving is difficult.
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Webber3
1,061 posts
88 months
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Easy, just look out for someone wearing the following...  and  and 
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rumple
2,523 posts
20 months
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MC Bodge said: The mark of the truly ADVANCED driver... To negotiate a slight bend in the road: To negotiate a long sweeping curve: To negotiate an oil slick covered ice rink: 
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ExFiF
18,397 posts
120 months
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juliethotel said: The one's who, when walking through the supermarket, slow almost to a halt when approaching the end of an aisle, treating it like a t-junction or crossroads (or is it just me that does that?).  Plus positioning to improve sightlines on corners, such as the blind square 90 right/lefts when jamming round Thiefrow heading for the gents. Plus as mentioned by another earlier, the over the shoulder lifesaver when "changing lanes" on the pavement.
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Triumph Man
2,158 posts
37 months
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ExFiF said: juliethotel said: The one's who, when walking through the supermarket, slow almost to a halt when approaching the end of an aisle, treating it like a t-junction or crossroads (or is it just me that does that?). Plus positioning to improve sightlines on corners, such as the blind square 90 right/lefts when jamming round Thiefrow heading for the gents. Plus as mentioned by another earlier, the over the shoulder lifesaver when "changing lanes" on the pavement. I have to admit I do the lifesave blindspot check when on the pavement, I also plan ahead as I would when driving.
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mybrainhurts
71,627 posts
124 months
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The one through the wall, in the field, saying but I didn't brake and change gear at the same time...
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Huff
1,129 posts
60 months
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Orange cardigan and Hillman Avenger. 
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Pints
14,698 posts
63 months
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Webber3 said: Easy, just look out for someone wearing the following... and and Is it wrong that makes me warm and fuzzy?
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