Where can I play with oversteer?

Where can I play with oversteer?

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rix

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2,780 posts

190 months

Friday 28th June 2013
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I have had advanced driver training and am happy with roadcraft driving generally. However that style of driving is not about driving at (or past) the limits of grip, so would love the opportunity to explore such things... Despite an abundance of roundabouts near me the roads are probably not the best place, and likewise i cant imagine many trackdays would put up with silly oversteer (and more likely the more than occasional spin!).

Any recommendations for where I could safely 'play' in my own car? Not fussed about instruction as such but i'm guessing it would be par for the course on these types of events... Ideas?

simon1987

401 posts

135 months

Friday 28th June 2013
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just go out at daft oclock and razz it about for a bit in a quiet area

S. Gonzales Esq.

2,557 posts

212 months

Friday 28th June 2013
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I think Oulton Park has a dedicated low-grip drift circuit.

MC Bodge

21,627 posts

175 months

Friday 28th June 2013
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Loose surfaces (or snow) are the places to try it. Be discrete and don't hang around for too long wink

jeremyc

23,453 posts

284 months

Friday 28th June 2013
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Mercedes Benz World (though not in your own car).



Goodwood also have a skid pan training facility, but again in their own cars.


Munter

31,319 posts

241 months

Friday 28th June 2013
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S. Gonzales Esq. said:
I think Oulton Park has a dedicated low-grip drift circuit.
Yep. A little circuit with bit's of gradient and corners and stuff. Not been on it but it looked great fun.

Synchromesh

2,428 posts

166 months

Friday 28th June 2013
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Munter said:
S. Gonzales Esq. said:
I think Oulton Park has a dedicated low-grip drift circuit.
Yep. A little circuit with bit's of gradient and corners and stuff. Not been on it but it looked great fun.
It was!

Here's my video from the day; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSgHGzCqEIQ

A good way of getting a feel for oversteer, albeit at low speeds.


BertBert

19,035 posts

211 months

Friday 28th June 2013
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go to a drift day somewhere!

EmmaJ

4,525 posts

146 months

Monday 1st July 2013
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I'm thinking of doing a day with driverdp.com. The course looks fun and you can do it in your own car. One of the VXR8 owners has done this event though and wasn't all that complimentary about it so PM me and I'll let you know who it was if you want to seek their opinion before booking up. Next course is on the 20th of July which is when I'm hoping to go just depends on work and if I'm oncall.

waremark

3,242 posts

213 months

Tuesday 2nd July 2013
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Andy Walsh of Car Limits or Don Palmer. You will find both easily online. Both are excellent for your purpose. A 4 person day with Andy Walsh is a good start. But do not expect to become expert in one session.

TrackMegane

615 posts

143 months

Wednesday 3rd July 2013
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Rockingham have a wet area to do this on

james_gt3rs

4,816 posts

191 months

Wednesday 3rd July 2013
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The Caterham drift day is an absolute riot!

Snowboy

8,028 posts

151 months

Tuesday 9th July 2013
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Pro drive track just outside Kenilworth have a track and skidpan.

RichB

51,564 posts

284 months

Tuesday 9th July 2013
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When I was a teenager you could go to a quiet airfield of an evening and practice on the huge Tarmac aprons around the edge. These days they are all fenced off because of Elf n' Safety.

Craikeybaby

10,408 posts

225 months

Thursday 11th July 2013
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Snowboy said:
Pro drive track just outside Kenilworth have a track and skidpan.
How would one go about playing with oversteer there? Do you need to book on a course, or can anyone just turn up?

pthelazyjourno

1,848 posts

169 months

Thursday 11th July 2013
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TrackMegane said:
Rockingham have a wet area to do this on
Thing I don't like about the wet skidpans is everything is so much slower and easier - a bit like driving on snow.

Yes, it's handy for the *very* basics, but it's a different kettle of fish when the back lets go at 70mph.

As above, I'd go for Car Limits or Don Palmer. Although spending a day at Rockingham is still a giggle.

SVS

3,824 posts

271 months

Thursday 11th July 2013
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How about a Performance Driving & Car Control course with RideDrive?

www.ridedrive.co.uk/performance-car-hps03pm.htmthumbup

"At the private driving venue you begin the session with a short safety briefing and a familiarisation tour of the facility. A programme of activities then begins, building from relatively simple manoeuvres to more technical applications of the car.

The purpose of the exercises will be to help you develop an understanding of the effects you have upon your car when you drive by the manner in which you operate the driving controls. This is where you learn to feel the car as you drive, as wherever possible, any electronic driving aids are switched off.

We talk about the drive configuration of your car, whether it be front–wheel drive, rear–wheel drive or four–wheel drive, and about the adverse effects this may have upon its behaviour if not driven with understanding.

Everything we practice here has a direct relationship with how you make safe progress on the public road and is not a track day. The venues we visit for the car control sessions tend to be disused airfields and which are not accessible by the general public. We avoid the use of motorsport track venues, as the risk of car damage is too high."

Or, if you can afford it, a two-day Performance Driving course with both Car Control and Skid Pan: www.ridedrive.co.uk/performance-car-hpy05pm.htm

MC Bodge

21,627 posts

175 months

Thursday 11th July 2013
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pthelazyjourno said:
it's a different kettle of fish when the back lets go at 70mph.
First rule: don't suddenly step off the gas.

BertBert

19,035 posts

211 months

Thursday 11th July 2013
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MC Bodge said:
pthelazyjourno said:
it's a different kettle of fish when the back lets go at 70mph.
First rule: don't suddenly step off the gas.
Here at 4:16, on the dirty side of the track, lifting off at 200kph biggrin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4HZ-AGUeQE

JBliss

1,145 posts

157 months

Saturday 20th July 2013
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