Can you be too big to heel and toe?
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MC Bodge said:
...unless there is some sort of throttle-brake interlock...
Very minor point. Using brakes and throttle on some BMWs produces an error code on the ECU. Nothing else, nothing is changed as far as I know, just a report in the script.It maybe so BMW know if you've been using brake and throttle together (and how many times).
pingu393 said:
Very minor point. Using brakes and throttle on some BMWs produces an error code on the ECU. Nothing else, nothing is changed as far as I know, just a report in the script.
It maybe so BMW know if you've been using brake and throttle together (and how many times).
Maybe it is to tell BMW just how well and smoothly you can drive?It maybe so BMW know if you've been using brake and throttle together (and how many times).
MC Bodge said:
Maybe it is to tell BMW just how well and smoothly you can drive?
They like to spy on the driver. They count the race starts on M3s with SMG. More than seven and transmission warranty ist kapput, apparantly.Anyway, I've been practising. Getting the hang of it, but I can do it faster by braking then double-de-clutching. I suppose that as I practise I'll get faster
.MC Bodge said:
pingu393 said:
Getting the hang of it, but I can do it faster by braking then double-de-clutching. I suppose that as I practise I'll get faster .
Faster than heel-toe single-de-clutching?.Get that clutch foot moving quickly and get that brake and throttle foot movement smooth.
.OP, your a big bloke to be driving an MX5, I'm only 6ft, and 17st ( think prop forward )and I sold ours as it was too cramped for me to drive properly.I couldn't get the seat back far enough and had no elbow room etc. I found I couldn't get a driving position comfortable enough for H&T down changes. The BMW Z4 I had after that was better for leg room, but the throttle was so lazy as to make the blip to slow to react to make it useful. I now have a 996 and it is fine as long as I'm braking fairly heavily. The best/easiest car to H&T in, Toyota GT86. I am lucky enough to have one as a company car and it is amazing to drive like that. Everything is where it should be and so easy to do.I think feet size has something to do with it, mine are small at a 9 ,and fairly narrow,for someone my height, I'd imagine that will bigger plates,you'd find it easier.
O/T I know, but I can't see the point of doing this on the road unless you're getting some practice in for when on track, in which case do it on a very quiet road with no-one around!
To be a bit more on-topic though, some (older) cars have the accelerator pedal mounted on nothing but a piece of thin metal bar, I have in the past just bent this until it suits me.
To be a bit more on-topic though, some (older) cars have the accelerator pedal mounted on nothing but a piece of thin metal bar, I have in the past just bent this until it suits me.
Zombie said:
devnull said:
I'm a fairly large chap - >> 6"2' and 16 and a bit stone, with a 55/45 bias towards my leg length. I've studied lots of videos, practiced and there is no way in hell that I can heel and toe in my MK2 MX5 (or any other of my manual cars that I've driven).
Is this normal? I'm perfectly capable of rev-matching on downshifts and can even do it on deceleration and light braking, but not in the way I see on videos.
Am I alone in this??
6"7' and size 13. I don't have any problems 'heel and toeing' although I use the side of the my foot rather than my heel.Is this normal? I'm perfectly capable of rev-matching on downshifts and can even do it on deceleration and light braking, but not in the way I see on videos.
Am I alone in this??
Doesn't work in the 5er though.
I'm very much in the same boat, at 6'4 with hefty long legs, and my size 10 feet don't help!
I managed to do it in my old car a couple of times but now I cant manage it. Pedals aren't spaced enough and my feet feel to long to pull it off.
I can blip the throttle on downshifts easily but I do have to lift from brake momentarily.
I managed to do it in my old car a couple of times but now I cant manage it. Pedals aren't spaced enough and my feet feel to long to pull it off.
I can blip the throttle on downshifts easily but I do have to lift from brake momentarily.
MC Bodge said:
226bhp said:
MC Bodge said:
Why do you say that?
Because it is what I believe and what was on my mind at the time.Apart from that profound, insightful response, why did you believe:
226bhp said:
in which case do it on a very quiet road with no-one around!
?Because it's quite an alien and strange thing to do at first when you've been used to doing something else for many years. It would be very easy to hit either pedal a bit too hard doing this and either accelerate into someone or brake too hard and cause someone to run into the back of you.
Today I had a quick go in a new manual Porsche Cayman S. In Sport Plus mode it has an auto-blip feature - previously seen on the Nissan 370Z. I don't understand why people would want this feature - if you don't want to practise rev matching why would you not get a PDK version? However, my big disappointment was that in my brief drive I could not make my H & T rev matching as accurate as the perfectly matched blip done by the system. If I buy this car, I don't expect to make much use of Sport Plus.
SVS said:
I suspect that most people who buy these cars don't rev match.
Yes. My drive was at the Silverstone Porsche Experience Centre. An instructor told me that many customers like the feature 'because they like the noise of the blip, without really understanding what it is for', let along wanting to use H & T.Gassing Station | Advanced Driving | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff