The future of Advanced Driving.

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SVS said:

Von, I agree. However, this thread was titled "The future of advanced driving".

Sadly I think we're all on the nail about this, very little we do or say is going to encourage many imo, plus the Sales & Marketing dept for IAM/RoSPA have very little success in this field either.

This thread hasn't evolved as I envisaged, even petty squabbles from other threads have spilled into here now, but if this is the area where the future of AD or just driving generally lies then it does have to be discussed here.

I agree the discussion will encourage very few, that is probably an over-estimation.

Best wishes.

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johnao said:

This is the problem. It is not easy or straightforward for drivers, either new or old, to see the relevance of working on GDE levels 3 & 4 if their existing coping strategies are adequate (just) for 99.99% of the time. The average driver, or more realistically, the 98.5% of drivers who don't take up any further post-DSA-test training, are simply not going to be bothered with navel gazing about their lifestyles and values and how these impinge upon their driving. Even if GDE levels 3 & 4 are built in to DSA training and the DSA test I'm sceptical that they will have the sort of profound effect that will be necessary to make a difference to the 17 to 25 year old group that are most at risk.

Leads me back to my question, what is it that is going to motivate the desire to get good at driving in the first place? Once the license is obtained? Drivers know it has to be something pretty serious to result in it being taken from you, merely being not very good isn't enough.

The problem as I see it is this, a very large percentage of drivers see the car as nothing more than a convenient mode of transport. The small percentage who see driving as an interest, art form, something in which to be interested in, are very few, and these are easily got, they come to AD of their own volition, many hardcore driving enthusiasts here on PH have tens of thousands of posts driving related to their name yet very few even venture to look at these 'AD' threads, those that do post, apart from us lot aka 'the usual suspects', are likely to just post put-downs and criticism. They are not remotely interested in what WE term good driving.

Why would that percentage who view driving as nothing more than a mode of transport ever have any interest apart from gaining a license? Why are the driving enthusiasts themselves mostly not interested in AD?

Compulsory driver re-testing, whatever the method used to train, the compulsory part is the important one. The DSA driving test needs to be harder, would it be too much to have the DSA test the same standard as a current AD test?

A great many drivers are just hoping their luck holds out, and for a great many it probably will, reinforcing their belief that they are efficient, how to get them interested I have no idea, IAM/RoSPA don't know either. Tbh I don't think switching methods of instruction is going to make much difference in that respect either, you have to motivate them first before these new methods will have any positive effect, that is the bit that isn't coming through to me.

Apologies for yet more repetition from me, but this question comes up in my mind continuously.

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vonhosen said:

I won't be in this line of work for much longer

You've mentioned this a couple of times. What's happening Von? Are you retiring from this job or changing career path?

Best wishes with this whichever it is.