100mph. Wicked or not wicked??
Discussion
MatrixXXx said:
the most dangerous drivers on the roads are the slow drivers.
Surely the more dangerous drivers are the ones who fail to safely negotiate the slow drivers.The slow drivers might be the most 'frustrating' drivers, and their lack of confidence may be an issue, but they're certainly not the most dangerous ones out there.
Volvo club did some calculations on speed vs stopping distance.
The thing that stood out to me is as follows.
Two cars travelling on a road, one is doing 70mph the other is doing 100mph. Both notice a hazard at the same time and stomp on the brakes. At the point where the car doing 70 has stopped, the car originally travelling at 100 is still doing 77mph.
Increase the speed of the faster car to 140mph and it would be travelling at 128mph at the point where the car doing 70 has stopped. Made me think that's all.
https://www.volvoclub.org.uk/pdf/SpeedStoppingDist...
The thing that stood out to me is as follows.
Two cars travelling on a road, one is doing 70mph the other is doing 100mph. Both notice a hazard at the same time and stomp on the brakes. At the point where the car doing 70 has stopped, the car originally travelling at 100 is still doing 77mph.
Increase the speed of the faster car to 140mph and it would be travelling at 128mph at the point where the car doing 70 has stopped. Made me think that's all.
https://www.volvoclub.org.uk/pdf/SpeedStoppingDist...
Edited by Jon999 on Wednesday 12th November 16:50
jacksplat said:
Do any of you know of any (true) safety videos or warning videos that one can watch to scare me into slowing down? I did watch some once that referred to texting and/or use of mobiles, where both persons convicted/jailed and also those severely injured by other irresponsible drivers spoken openly as to the way the accidents caused had severely damaged their lives. I would like to make it very clear that this is not one of my crimes but..
...speeding is still a killer!
Anyone know of a video that will 'encourage' me / scare me into slowing down?
This is a genuine question from someone addicted to speed and I mean over 100mph every day. Please don't tell me to get rid of the car - that won't work. I want help with self control!
"I made a mistake"...speeding is still a killer!
Anyone know of a video that will 'encourage' me / scare me into slowing down?
This is a genuine question from someone addicted to speed and I mean over 100mph every day. Please don't tell me to get rid of the car - that won't work. I want help with self control!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvLaTupw-hk
how about that one?
polycote said:
Why is it that driving at 100 or 125 or 150mph or ... regarded as so wicked when I can go to Germany and drive at 170mph pefectly happily?
Why can I drive in Germany at such speeds with no problem at all, yet here in England, when caught at such speeds you are regarded as one of the most terrible people that ever walked the earth? I thought we were all part of Europe. Surely if they are allowed to do it over there, we should be allowed to do it over here.
I live an extremely busy life and own a business in three countries. I have no time or waste 'trundling along an open road. I have a car that is built for safety and for speed and 100mph+ is second nature.
I believe we could remove the speed limits on large amounts of motorways! Yes, I can hear some of you do-gooders shouting and screaming already. I don't mean you do it everywhere and/or where it is busy, but why not where there are clear stretches of road and/or at night. The Germans haven't been right at everything but this is certainly one thing they have done to help their country.
I'm sorry, people that drive slowly are often far more of a menace on the roads. They don't concentrate, they don't look in their mirrors, wander all over the road and hog either the middle or third lane without a care in the world. They pull out to overtake with barely a wink at their rear view mirror. they pull out of side turnings without a single thought of joining the existing flow of the traffic, but chug off down the road causing everyone else to brake. These mostly seem to be the people with a chip on their shoulder and slam their brakes on or widely gesticulate, spending most of their time glaring into the rear view mirror rather than concentrating on their own eractic movements! Frankly, they cause all sorts of problems for just about every other road user.
Long live the autobahns, long live the people that enjoy using them and ban the wasters that cause 95% of the accident by driving at 50mph without due care and attention as mentioned above!!
I will enjoy the response, good, bad and indifferent!!
I am not a do-gooder or anywhere close, but there is no excuse, in any form, for your style of driving.Why can I drive in Germany at such speeds with no problem at all, yet here in England, when caught at such speeds you are regarded as one of the most terrible people that ever walked the earth? I thought we were all part of Europe. Surely if they are allowed to do it over there, we should be allowed to do it over here.
I live an extremely busy life and own a business in three countries. I have no time or waste 'trundling along an open road. I have a car that is built for safety and for speed and 100mph+ is second nature.
I believe we could remove the speed limits on large amounts of motorways! Yes, I can hear some of you do-gooders shouting and screaming already. I don't mean you do it everywhere and/or where it is busy, but why not where there are clear stretches of road and/or at night. The Germans haven't been right at everything but this is certainly one thing they have done to help their country.
I'm sorry, people that drive slowly are often far more of a menace on the roads. They don't concentrate, they don't look in their mirrors, wander all over the road and hog either the middle or third lane without a care in the world. They pull out to overtake with barely a wink at their rear view mirror. they pull out of side turnings without a single thought of joining the existing flow of the traffic, but chug off down the road causing everyone else to brake. These mostly seem to be the people with a chip on their shoulder and slam their brakes on or widely gesticulate, spending most of their time glaring into the rear view mirror rather than concentrating on their own eractic movements! Frankly, they cause all sorts of problems for just about every other road user.
Long live the autobahns, long live the people that enjoy using them and ban the wasters that cause 95% of the accident by driving at 50mph without due care and attention as mentioned above!!
I will enjoy the response, good, bad and indifferent!!
I am sure that you exceed the speed limit in all situations, 30, 40 50, etc and scare the hell out of a lot of drivers, cyclists and pedestrians.
This is outrageous behaviour by any standards and you should take a long hard look at yourself for performing what are anti-social and not least law breaking manoevres.
It seems to me that everybody 'Got themselves into a God damn hurry' (Shawshank Redemption quote), but the truth is that they are not, they just addicted to speeding.
Since I chose to become a 'slower driver' some years ago,(but not tortoise speed),I have become a more confident and relaxed driver, and enjoy every journey.
I can imagine that most of your journeys are full of stress, angst and not a little fear.
To quote the late Michael Winner, 'Calm Down Dear', and forget what they do in Germany, which is always quoted in any post by drivers who speed.
WD39 said:
Since I chose to become a 'slower driver' some years ago,(but not tortoise speed),I have become a more confident and relaxed driver, and enjoy every journey.
That's interesting. I think being relaxed helps me be fast. When I'm not relaxed, I tend to try and drive fast and it doesn't go very well. When I am relaxed, I tend to try and drive well and pace and enjoyment come about naturally. I guess I'm thinking of driving on all different types of road though, not specifically motorways.WD39 said:
I am not a do-gooder or anywhere close, but....
you do like to resurrect old threads of no good reason. What is clear from delving into your posting history is that you are quite an opinionated driver with a very strong believe in your own self-righteousness. As a driver trainer I have a strong belief that other road users have varied beliefs and values and to expect others to behave in accordance with my own beliefs and values is not only arrogant but, at times dangerous. Whilst I would not condone any of my clients driving at 100mph down the motorway I would also encourage them to consider the risks involved in driving everywhere else at 40
Hugo a Gogo said:
jacksplat said:
Do any of you know of any (true) safety videos or warning videos that one can watch to scare me into slowing down? I did watch some once that referred to texting and/or use of mobiles, where both persons convicted/jailed and also those severely injured by other irresponsible drivers spoken openly as to the way the accidents caused had severely damaged their lives. I would like to make it very clear that this is not one of my crimes but..
...speeding is still a killer!
Anyone know of a video that will 'encourage' me / scare me into slowing down?
This is a genuine question from someone addicted to speed and I mean over 100mph every day. Please don't tell me to get rid of the car - that won't work. I want help with self control!
"I made a mistake"...speeding is still a killer!
Anyone know of a video that will 'encourage' me / scare me into slowing down?
This is a genuine question from someone addicted to speed and I mean over 100mph every day. Please don't tell me to get rid of the car - that won't work. I want help with self control!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvLaTupw-hk
how about that one?
Bradley1500 said:
jacksplat said:
This is a genuine question from someone addicted to speed and I mean over 100mph every day. Please don't tell me to get rid of the car - that won't work. I want help with self control!
There's nothing wrong with speed it's the situations in which you speed which can be the problem. If you feel the need to drive at 100MPH+ everyday then read the thread I've linked below.http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
The posts from 10 pence short (I believe they start on page 3) are very sobering to read and they certainly slowed me down. I still like to drive fast and have fun but there's a time and a place for it.
Personally I usually drive slightly below the limit on motorways now. I don't find it enjoyable at all to do 100MPH+ on these roads, I find it much more relaxing to cruise along with the aircon on and music up and I don't arrive any later than I would have trying to VMAX between the traffic jams.
It also means I have more fuel when I'm on a nice clear B road I can actually enjoy!
One of the reasons why I am very happy with my old merc is that it doesn't goad you into driving faster and faster. Even my 4.2 A8 felt boring until doing non-sensible speeds.
Personally I get where you're coming from, but it could never happen. The saying goes anyone can drive a car at 150mph, but only a few can control one if something goes wrong.
Although I drive a fast car that can comfortably handle high speeds, not everyone does., which would mean other drivers would become more of a risk.What happens when you get new drivers in hatchbacks trying to do 120mph in a car that's unstable at 90mph, you're just asking for trouble and I wouldn't feel safe using the roads.
Although I drive a fast car that can comfortably handle high speeds, not everyone does., which would mean other drivers would become more of a risk.What happens when you get new drivers in hatchbacks trying to do 120mph in a car that's unstable at 90mph, you're just asking for trouble and I wouldn't feel safe using the roads.
The fundamental issue with the roads in this country is not necessarily the speed limits but the ethos that a majority of joe public have when it comes to driving. People have no idea what lane discipline means, which is why you see 80% of the traffic in rush hour sat in the outside lane, barely trundling past the rest of the cars on the road. If everybody used the lanes properly the traffic in this country would flow so much more efficiently. People take things far too personally over here, you see people in the outside lane refusing to move over because they don't like the fact that somebody wishes to drive faster than they do, people intentionally blocking other drivers on roads where two lanes merge into one, nobody let's people out of junctions just out of principal, the list could go on and on..... Even if the speed limit was increased or unrestricted, due to the poor level of driving ability and ridiculous ethos, there really wouldn't be much of an improvement. I travelled across most of the major roads in Germany a few months back and the way people drive is completely different. Yes you see people tailgating and flashing but for the most part, if somebody wants to overtake or pass through, the car in front will move over at the first opportunity. I don't recall being stuck in traffic at any point, other than perhaps entering one or two of the major cities, and even then it was for maybe 10 minutes at the most. The problem isn't the speed limits, it is the people on the road and the way they drive. Increasing the speed limit in the UK would be dangerous without first forcing everybody to drive in a different way.
Jon999 said:
Volvo club did some calculations on speed vs stopping distance.
The thing that stood out to me is as follows.
Two cars travelling on a road, one is doing 70mph the other is doing 100mph. Both notice a hazard at the same time and stomp on the brakes. At the point where the car doing 70 has stopped, the car originally travelling at 100 is still doing 77mph.
Increase the speed of the faster car to 140mph and it would be travelling at 128mph at the point where the car doing 70 has stopped. Made me think that's all.
I came across your contribution and it made me think of two of my own cars.The thing that stood out to me is as follows.
Two cars travelling on a road, one is doing 70mph the other is doing 100mph. Both notice a hazard at the same time and stomp on the brakes. At the point where the car doing 70 has stopped, the car originally travelling at 100 is still doing 77mph.
Increase the speed of the faster car to 140mph and it would be travelling at 128mph at the point where the car doing 70 has stopped. Made me think that's all.
Possibly the results could be the other way around.
Presumably this Volvo data is comparing two identical vehicles.
The car that I tend to use for every day transport, is what used to be a very common 'repmobile'. The brakes function as they should do, and slow the car in the normal way.
However, in comparison with another car that I occasionally drive (it is said to do, zero to 100mph to zero in 15 secs., and top at 180mph), you would think the everyday car had bicycle brakes.
Maybe though, if all cars had enormous Brembo brakes, there would be many more rear end collisions, because of the 'drive too close' habit.
So perhaps the moral of this tale is;
LOSING SPEED QUICKLY IS DANGEROUS, IF EVERYBODY CAN DO IT. -
Edited by Jon39 on Thursday 11th December 23:13
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