Moving for Blues
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Find the twitter comment interesting. #shouldvemovedover
Much is made of the 'attitude' test police often administer.
I think if it was the other way round, they would have failed.
Regardless of what followed in that particular case surely is the trained officers job to pass safely.
Would be interesting to see the video replay whether is was a driving skill or road infrastructure which made passing difficult.
http://www.yorkpress.co.uk/news/14291543.Police_re...
Much is made of the 'attitude' test police often administer.
I think if it was the other way round, they would have failed.
Regardless of what followed in that particular case surely is the trained officers job to pass safely.
Would be interesting to see the video replay whether is was a driving skill or road infrastructure which made passing difficult.
http://www.yorkpress.co.uk/news/14291543.Police_re...
So a Traffic Car would just sit behind a vehicle unless it moved over?
Isn't it the trained drivers responsibility (and job) to be able to pass safely?
I for one had never had much problem passing other slow moving traffic. Struggling to see why a car on blues is getting stuck. Would be interesting to see the video.
Deliberate obstruction is a different thing. In this case it seems they were stoned and not as alert as they should be.
Isn't it the trained drivers responsibility (and job) to be able to pass safely?
I for one had never had much problem passing other slow moving traffic. Struggling to see why a car on blues is getting stuck. Would be interesting to see the video.
Deliberate obstruction is a different thing. In this case it seems they were stoned and not as alert as they should be.
I don't do facepalm or twitter, so Im confused at what the issue is.
Blues and twos are put on because the emergency vehicle (from whichever service) is in a hurry to get to an emergency.
That could be a fire, someone drowning, somebody bleeding out, or someone in danger of being attacked.
Why would anyone, NOT think it correct to get of their f
king way at the earliest safe opportunity?
Blues and twos are put on because the emergency vehicle (from whichever service) is in a hurry to get to an emergency.
That could be a fire, someone drowning, somebody bleeding out, or someone in danger of being attacked.
Why would anyone, NOT think it correct to get of their f
king way at the earliest safe opportunity?Completely agree.
I'm sure you are aware of stories about crossing stop lines, moving into box junctions etc.
Regardless of the outcome of this example, the officer and I assume his bosses as it's on Twitter agree it's for the traffic to move over to allow the officer to pass. Surely they teach navigating through traffic at the Police driving schools. I've never known it to be the case if they get stuck behind a slow moving vehicle they just sit there and wait for it to move over.
In the AD driving I have done, I have been told it for the emergency services to get around you safely. Of course you should assist them if you can, but my responsibility as a driver is a best endeavour, theirs is a job requirment.
. Find the reaction to sirens quite annoying. Half of drivers are daydreaming and just sit there looking gormless, the other half think they are super police assistant drivers and swing over and mount the kerb with great enthusiasm sending cyclists and pedestrians flying even though the EV is 2 streets away
For me the best course of action is a safe, legal and clearly understood one.
I'm sure you are aware of stories about crossing stop lines, moving into box junctions etc.
Regardless of the outcome of this example, the officer and I assume his bosses as it's on Twitter agree it's for the traffic to move over to allow the officer to pass. Surely they teach navigating through traffic at the Police driving schools. I've never known it to be the case if they get stuck behind a slow moving vehicle they just sit there and wait for it to move over.
In the AD driving I have done, I have been told it for the emergency services to get around you safely. Of course you should assist them if you can, but my responsibility as a driver is a best endeavour, theirs is a job requirment.
- should'vecheckedmirrors would have been more apt.
. Find the reaction to sirens quite annoying. Half of drivers are daydreaming and just sit there looking gormless, the other half think they are super police assistant drivers and swing over and mount the kerb with great enthusiasm sending cyclists and pedestrians flying even though the EV is 2 streets awayFor me the best course of action is a safe, legal and clearly understood one.
Based on the facts I can see.
The Police were waiting for him to do what every other member of the public whose parents didn't procreate with their siblings. which is to move out of the way.
That's the safest approach and avoids the subsequent finger pointing and legal claims that would have occurred if they had tried to overtake and he had side swiped them (because he is an obvious retard after all).
The Police were waiting for him to do what every other member of the public whose parents didn't procreate with their siblings. which is to move out of the way.
That's the safest approach and avoids the subsequent finger pointing and legal claims that would have occurred if they had tried to overtake and he had side swiped them (because he is an obvious retard after all).
FWIW - my best guess is that the police car was 'blue lighting' to an incident and was behind the druggy's car. For some reason, their attendance was no longer required (incident downgraded, problem no longer there, other units in attendance, etc). But now they are "intrigued" by this chap's driving ability/attitude, and decide to have a closer look. The resultant stop furnishes them with evidence enough to seize the vehicle and bring charges for the drugs/no license/no insurance issues.
Re-reading the article it quotes the police as saying...
Whatever it was that led to the stop, it may well not just have been 'failing to move over' as it's not always safe to do that. Maybe it was 'possession of an offensive Vauxhall', or something in the manner of their driving. I think the #shouldhavemovedover thing has more to do with suggesting that, had the dope-fiend pulled over when he could, those officers would have taken no further interest in him, and he'd still have his car and not be needing a 'counsel for the defense'.
On the plus side, for us that pay what's due and like to be safe out there, one more arrogant ahole who isn't qualified or insured to drive is now off the roads, along with the car which will hopefully be crushed.
Re-reading the article it quotes the police as saying...
North Yorkshire Police traffic officers said:
The officer stopped the car eventually and the driver had no licence, no insurance and failed the drug wipe on cannabis...
...which could easily suggest that the officers managed to pass the Vectra, and were attending the blue light incident, or much closer to it when they were stood down, and they then re-found the Vectra driver to pull him over, or he could even have found them further along the road AT the incident site.Whatever it was that led to the stop, it may well not just have been 'failing to move over' as it's not always safe to do that. Maybe it was 'possession of an offensive Vauxhall', or something in the manner of their driving. I think the #shouldhavemovedover thing has more to do with suggesting that, had the dope-fiend pulled over when he could, those officers would have taken no further interest in him, and he'd still have his car and not be needing a 'counsel for the defense'.
On the plus side, for us that pay what's due and like to be safe out there, one more arrogant a
hole who isn't qualified or insured to drive is now off the roads, along with the car which will hopefully be crushed.I'd agree with yellowjack's take on the story too. As an aside the police social media accounts are sometimes administered by 20 year old fresh out of uni graduate "social media architects" or some bks who often get paid more than the officers they are writing about but haven't got a clue what they are actually talking about which often leads to some strange hashtags or points being made. The quality of spelling/grammar on some of the accounts is often quite embarrassing
ks who often get paid more than the officers they are writing about but haven't got a clue what they are actually talking about which often leads to some strange hashtags or points being made. The quality of spelling/grammar on some of the accounts is often quite embarrassing There are plenty of circumstances that would make it impossible or illegal to pass. A long stretch of solid white centrelines for instance. If the car in front doesn't do the police the courtesy of moving over, they have no exemption to cross the lines and pass.
Similarly, I once followed an ambulance response car for several miles up the A1 when it was stuck behind a VW Transporter with an obvious driver. I hope it was nothing too serious.
Similarly, I once followed an ambulance response car for several miles up the A1 when it was stuck behind a VW Transporter with an obvious driver. I hope it was nothing too serious.
Maybe we should look at this from another perspective .....
1. They stopped him...eventually because they were amazed a Vectra was still running!
2. or they stopped it because the driver had to be drunk/stoned to drive one in the first place?
When i used to drive for the Plod, we were sometimes "Held up" by stupid people day dreaming or what ever when on a blue light run.....it used to get very "interesting" when they eventually "woke up" and reacted by just slamming on the brakes....or as already mentioned turning violently onto pavements bouncing up the kerbs damaging their vehicles, and frightening the cr*p out of anyone unfortunate to be near by!
We as very correctly stated above used to use blue lights and two tones for all manor of shouts, most of the time to go to the aid of folk, not to bash them on the head.....well I suppose I can't speak for the Met Pol.....but that's London!
I hope the car in the article gets crushed, so at least there is one less uninsured vehicle on the road
1. They stopped him...eventually because they were amazed a Vectra was still running!
2. or they stopped it because the driver had to be drunk/stoned to drive one in the first place?
When i used to drive for the Plod, we were sometimes "Held up" by stupid people day dreaming or what ever when on a blue light run.....it used to get very "interesting" when they eventually "woke up" and reacted by just slamming on the brakes....or as already mentioned turning violently onto pavements bouncing up the kerbs damaging their vehicles, and frightening the cr*p out of anyone unfortunate to be near by!
We as very correctly stated above used to use blue lights and two tones for all manor of shouts, most of the time to go to the aid of folk, not to bash them on the head.....well I suppose I can't speak for the Met Pol.....but that's London!
I hope the car in the article gets crushed, so at least there is one less uninsured vehicle on the road
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