Following the Highway Code vs Fitting In
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bmw535i said:
RegMolehusband said:
Thank you. I will continue to drive with due regard to all road users.
At the same time as disregarding the law Edited by RegMolehusband on Thursday 7th April 07:55
Genius. I had a bit of a deja vu moment when I read this thread - it's the same concept I outlined in detail a couple of years ago when I asked pretty much the same question:
We make the standards and we make the rules...
This thread has reminded me of seeing a car coming towards me just a few days ago clearly sticking rigidly to the 30 limit, and there was a fully liveried police car 15 ft from his rear bumper.
I believe that even police drivers recognise there's the limit, and then there's common sense.
I believe that even police drivers recognise there's the limit, and then there's common sense.
RegMolehusband said:
The OP has already admitted to soliciting road rage. Let's hope the next one doesn't step out of the car at the traffic lights armed with a baseball bat. Good enough reason to drive in the real world.
"I was speeding in case someone hit me with a baseball bat" Brilliant 
RegMolehusband said:
This thread has reminded me of seeing a car coming towards me just a few days ago clearly sticking rigidly to the 30 limit, and there was a fully liveried police car 15 ft from his rear bumper.
I believe that even police drivers recognise there's the limit, and then there's common sense.
Checks mirror, sees police car, checks speed, speed ok, ah I'll speed up to please him. I believe that even police drivers recognise there's the limit, and then there's common sense.
Still, much better to receive a fine and points than receiving a Rodney King esque beating at the next traffic lights.
bmw535i said:
RegMolehusband said:
The OP has already admitted to soliciting road rage. Let's hope the next one doesn't step out of the car at the traffic lights armed with a baseball bat. Good enough reason to drive in the real world.
"I was speeding in case someone hit me with a baseball bat" Brilliant How ,if the guy is doing 30 in a 30 is HE soliciting road rage. Road rage is only created by the inability of the person doing it, to keep his feelings under control. nothing more nothing less
Yes i see lots of idiots doing what i may consider stupid things, but i dont get to point where i want to physically harm them. Just shrug my soldiersnd let them carry on. I find people like that are incapable of being reasoned with, and i am not going to wast my time trying to alter nature.
So ... off you toddle
Where did 'soliciting' come from? Eliciting, possibly - unintentionally attracting road rage - but not going out of his way to create it.
I don't imagine I'd get much sympathy from a police driver behind me if I exceeded a 30 limit for his imagined benefit. I'm in the '30 means 30' camp too (although there are some rural 30s on my Oxfordshire-Berkshire patch that stretch my will to comply) and I've found police cars behind me too. Never had a hint that they found my driving unacceptable.
I don't imagine I'd get much sympathy from a police driver behind me if I exceeded a 30 limit for his imagined benefit. I'm in the '30 means 30' camp too (although there are some rural 30s on my Oxfordshire-Berkshire patch that stretch my will to comply) and I've found police cars behind me too. Never had a hint that they found my driving unacceptable.
I think this is a really interesting topic!
I understand what you mean RE 30 mph limits but I stick to 30s pretty intensely and don't get much issue. Usually slowing down combined with a stare into the rear view mirror sorts it out.
I think flashing headlights as a means of communicating (for example, give way) is common practise.
The problem with the HC in my view is that it doesn't have any element of reality to it. For example, it still has emphasis on hand signals for vehicles without indicators... lol.
It's also worded in a complex way, in some cases, and is not clear.
There is also pointless information, for example, what reflective colour of cats-eye are used depending on whether you're on a motorway, or if it's a layby, or an exit on a motorway, etc... WHO CARES?!
An updated, no nonsense, real world highway code should be written, you can keep all the signs and stuff but the bulk of the book shouldn't need to be more than 10 or 11 pages IMO.
I understand what you mean RE 30 mph limits but I stick to 30s pretty intensely and don't get much issue. Usually slowing down combined with a stare into the rear view mirror sorts it out.
I think flashing headlights as a means of communicating (for example, give way) is common practise.
The problem with the HC in my view is that it doesn't have any element of reality to it. For example, it still has emphasis on hand signals for vehicles without indicators... lol.
It's also worded in a complex way, in some cases, and is not clear.
There is also pointless information, for example, what reflective colour of cats-eye are used depending on whether you're on a motorway, or if it's a layby, or an exit on a motorway, etc... WHO CARES?!
An updated, no nonsense, real world highway code should be written, you can keep all the signs and stuff but the bulk of the book shouldn't need to be more than 10 or 11 pages IMO.
Only an example, I know, but the coloured studs are far from pointless - in fog, for example, they might be your only clue as to where you are.
Hand signals - well, yes, my dad used to give them occasionally but I never have. But you never know when you might find yourself driving an incapacitated vehicle and needing to improvise - or following someone on a vintage tractor whose signals you'll need to understand.
Hand signals - well, yes, my dad used to give them occasionally but I never have. But you never know when you might find yourself driving an incapacitated vehicle and needing to improvise - or following someone on a vintage tractor whose signals you'll need to understand.
bmw535i said:
RegMolehusband said:
This thread has reminded me of seeing a car coming towards me just a few days ago clearly sticking rigidly to the 30 limit, and there was a fully liveried police car 15 ft from his rear bumper.
I believe that even police drivers recognise there's the limit, and then there's common sense.
Checks mirror, sees police car, checks speed, speed ok, ah I'll speed up to please him. I believe that even police drivers recognise there's the limit, and then there's common sense.
Still, much better to receive a fine and points than receiving a Rodney King esque beating at the next traffic lights.
bmw535i said:
Nor would I, I was being sarcastic at the expense of Reg and his stupidity
Yeah I know, was just agreeing. Ever since the police did a road safety thing at my work I'll always be cautious as one of the officers there said he'd pull someone creeping past him if he was already sat at 70. Not sure how that would work out in practice with speedos over-reading.
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A car i intend buying was built in 1955 and has semaphore indicators, possibly something you have never seen ,nor would undetand what they mean.
So when i intend to turn right or left, the indicator will be activated and a ferking grat hand signal added to emphasise it.
Oh, and i find that if you are using a modern indicator (flashing lights) to perhaps pass a vehicle in L1, and other drivers are just nipping past, thinking, he has left his indicator on, just stick your arm out, you will be surprised at the reaction
A car i intend buying was built in 1955 and has semaphore indicators, possibly something you have never seen ,nor would undetand what they mean.
So when i intend to turn right or left, the indicator will be activated and a ferking grat hand signal added to emphasise it.
Oh, and i find that if you are using a modern indicator (flashing lights) to perhaps pass a vehicle in L1, and other drivers are just nipping past, thinking, he has left his indicator on, just stick your arm out, you will be surprised at the reaction
silverfoxcc said:
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A car i intend buying was built in 1955 and has semaphore indicators, possibly something you have never seen ,nor would undetand what they mean.
So when i intend to turn right or left, the indicator will be activated and a ferking grat hand signal added to emphasise it.
Oh, and i find that if you are using a modern indicator (flashing lights) to perhaps pass a vehicle in L1, and other drivers are just nipping past, thinking, he has left his indicator on, just stick your arm out, you will be surprised at the reaction
Do you know what, I think I would be surprised if someone stuck their arm out of a car window on a motorway.A car i intend buying was built in 1955 and has semaphore indicators, possibly something you have never seen ,nor would undetand what they mean.
So when i intend to turn right or left, the indicator will be activated and a ferking grat hand signal added to emphasise it.
Oh, and i find that if you are using a modern indicator (flashing lights) to perhaps pass a vehicle in L1, and other drivers are just nipping past, thinking, he has left his indicator on, just stick your arm out, you will be surprised at the reaction
bmw535i said:
Checks mirror, sees police car, checks speed, speed ok, ah I'll speed up to please him.
Still, much better to receive a fine and points than receiving a Rodney King esque beating at the next traffic lights.
You don't seem to be able to comprehend what I'm saying. The police car was tailgating as a result of his frustration at the driver rigidly sticking to his speedo at 30mph, which was probably 27-28mph in reality. I probably would have done an indicated 33-34.Still, much better to receive a fine and points than receiving a Rodney King esque beating at the next traffic lights.
RegMolehusband said:
You don't seem to be able to comprehend what I'm saying. The police car was tailgating as a result of his frustration at the driver rigidly sticking to his speedo at 30mph, which was probably 27-28mph in reality. I probably would have done an indicated 33-34.
Of course I comprehend, you've been very clear. 1. You would exceed the speed limit if the Police were following you.
2. You think that by speeding in these or similar circumstances you will avoid getting beaten up with a baseball bat.
You can say these things in as many ways as you like, it doesn't mean I'm going to stop thinking you're a "thicko" or "moron". (Your words, not mine).
RegMolehusband said:
The police car was tailgating as a result of his frustration at the driver rigidly sticking to his speedo at 30mph,
How do you know that? Perhaps he was following an unmarked car in close convoy. Or just driving badly. Most explanations would involve the police driver being at fault.Gassing Station | Advanced Driving | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff