Overtaking in corners - why the objection?
Discussion
titian said:
Mike7 - I believe it's on the list to get the average speed camera treatment some time in the future, not so bad so long as they keep it to national speed limit, however, that isn't guaranteed.
That doesn't surprise me, and the first thing that crops up on a Google search is: http://www.dangerousroads.org/europe/england/3852-...NSL is fine but you're probably right, I guess a reduction is on the cards unfortunately. Still, plenty more good roads not too far away
nonsequitur said:
NNH said:
nonsequitur said:
NNH said:
Dr Jekyll said:
nonsequitur said:
Dr Jekyll said:
nonsequitur said:
Reckless and rash.
Why?Why?
As a follow-up question, if you haven't overtaken anything quicker than a tractor in years, why are you even qualified to comment?
How can you pass judgement on an overtaking manoeuvre described only on the number of cars and the fact that there is a bend in the road?
Not all Welsh A roads are twisty narrow affairs. Road in question is wide, bendy but well sighted (heading down into a valley so miles of visibility over the road ahead)
Good daylight, dry road, wire fences at side of road so no more risk of sheep on road than a normal country road...
I didn't count the cars at the time, I checked back on the dash cam.
I'd much rather overtake a whole line of cars than dart in and out hesitantly which you see all too often, causing dangerous breaking in the line of cars.
saying something is 'reckless and rash' is just pointless when you have no idea about the situation and it doesn't add anything to an otherwise interesting discussion.
Edited by antiok on Tuesday 7th March 22:29
I don't know if it is still available on YouTube, but there was a Reg Local video 'A few more overtakes', in which he overtakes a car and a car/caravan (all in one go) round a left hand bend. That was a cracker; but not one for the novice! I don't mind admitting that I wouldn't have had the confidence to do it.
It sure is.From way back in 2007 under his previous username.
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
Video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wvrhb1mDkYs
From 8.00 onwards.
Red Devil said:
It sure is.From way back in 2007 under his previous username.
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
Video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wvrhb1mDkYs
From 8.00 onwards.
I was out for a run with Reg last Sunday and I got quite a few overtakes in on right handers. All with good sight lines and hazard free. I didn't get honked or flashed at once but I didn't do the move until I knew the target had seen me and I was positive that they were not planning on cutting the corner
I was behind a queue of traffic following a slow wood lorry, the road was bendy and uphill. Most cars were nose to tail, I hung back. At a crucial point I could observe the road ahead through the inside as it bent left. It was clear, with no traffic and no hedgerows or hidden entrances. In third gear, I pulled out, got a clearer view of the nearer distance that was previously hidden. Knowing the rest was clear, I overtook it and passed 3 cars and the wood lorry. That was driving my wife's 1.2 Fabia. My wife, who hates me overtaking, did not bat an eye-lid. Planning, gear, and making the best of all opportunities for forward vision is key here. I was also prepared if one of the other cars were to pull out, and there were no turnings or tracks to the right or left. The traffic I passed did not hoot or flash, so I assume they were comfortable with it, I certainly was.
I performed an overtake whilst crossing a hump-back bridge last week. It nestles in the dip between two hills and is completely sighted for a fair distance either side. I clearly signaled my intent to the other road users and fully committed to the manoeuvre. The driver of the Zetec S behind me looked a bit shocked, but showed his approval when he eventually caught me about 5 miles later. No one else seemed bothered by it. If it's safe, clear and legal, overtake away.
I was over near Snowdonia on Saturday and can safely say that if it were not for the Alcon 380mm brakes my car has that it would have been much shorter and me and my passenger rather poorly in hospital because of the idiot in a white transit van that over took a small bus on a blind left hander going down hill.
Overtaking on bends is good if you can see the road and its safe to do so, this idiot wasnt and could have killed me with a head on collision (i was doing an indicated 44mph in a 60 zone for those interested)
Overtaking on bends is good if you can see the road and its safe to do so, this idiot wasnt and could have killed me with a head on collision (i was doing an indicated 44mph in a 60 zone for those interested)
I've only done one overtake on bends, the lorry was moving slowly enough that I could observe the road ahead for long enough to make the judgment - it's kind of a kink in an otherwise straight road with areas of clear vision and areas of obstructed vision. Crucially, the furthest point had good sight lines. I wouldn't try something like that on a road that I don't know.
If it's safe, people shouldn't object. Unfortunately, a lot of people do dodgy overtakes, and others can't tell the difference.
If it's safe, people shouldn't object. Unfortunately, a lot of people do dodgy overtakes, and others can't tell the difference.
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