Indicating at roundabouts

Indicating at roundabouts

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Skyedriver

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17,856 posts

282 months

Saturday 28th October 2023
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Family discussion
Approaching a roundabout, lets say 10m diameter with one exit left and one straight ahead do you indicate right for straight ahead, then left after passing the exit on your left?
Similarly approaching same roundabout from the other direction and travelling straight ahead do you indicate left?
I know what I tend to do and what my son, currently under tuition does but another member of the family acts differently.

ClaphamBoxS

330 posts

64 months

Saturday 28th October 2023
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Skyedriver said:
Family discussion
Approaching a roundabout, lets say 10m diameter with one exit left and one straight ahead do you indicate right for straight ahead, then left after passing the exit on your left?
Similarly approaching same roundabout from the other direction and travelling straight ahead do you indicate left?
I know what I tend to do and what my son, currently under tuition does but another member of the family acts differently.
Scenario one….stay in right hand lane ,(assuming two lanes) do not indicate until past left hand exit then signal left to leave the roundabout even though it’s straight on( DO NOT SIGNAL RIGHT YOU ARE NOT GOING RIGHT)

Scenario two…approach roundabout in left hand lane ( assuming there are two lanes) as you enter the roundabout signal left as you are taking the first exit off the roundabout even though it’s straight on.

End of family discussion…

Edited by ClaphamBoxS on Saturday 28th October 10:14

dxg

8,203 posts

260 months

Saturday 28th October 2023
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As above, but only signal left when exiting if there is someone approaching the roundabout in the road you're about to enter.

Otherwise you're just wearing out the bulb.

Pica-Pica

13,796 posts

84 months

Saturday 28th October 2023
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No. Indicating right in the first circumstances is pointless, and could confuse people into thinking you are going all the way round to come back where you came from (a common possibility on some retail parks near me). I may or may not indicate left when exiting, it would depend on traffic that is around. For example in the first circumstances, I would probably indicate left to exit, so that any driver approaching can have timely advice on whether they can enter without stopping.

In the second circumstances, I would also not indicate right, and would indicate left so that other road users around are aware I was leaving at that exit. They can then avoid stopping, and can enter the roundabout smoothly. Again, presence of other road users would be relevant. No signal should be automatic, it should be made with observation and drivers always need to think:-

Is the signal needed?
What I am trying to inform and to whom?
Could it be misinterpreted?

ClaphamBoxS

330 posts

64 months

Saturday 28th October 2023
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dxg said:
As above, but only signal left when exiting if there is someone approaching the roundabout in the road you're about to enter.

Otherwise you're just wearing out the bulb.
Absolutely…

Debaser

5,848 posts

261 months

Saturday 28th October 2023
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If I’m going straight ahead at a roundabout I don’t indicate on approach. Once on the roundabout, as I approach my exit I indicate left.

Raging Bu11

128 posts

181 months

Saturday 28th October 2023
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Why Indicate right ?? That would indicate that you are intending to go all the way around the roundabout and head back the other way, causing traffic coming in the other direction to stop assuming you are about to do that !!
It infuriates me when people do this as you end up coming to a standstill, only to watch the thicko indicating right go straight on !!! furious

HTP99

22,553 posts

140 months

Saturday 28th October 2023
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Raging Bu11 said:
Why Indicate right ?? That would indicate that you are intending to go all the way around the roundabout and head back the other way, causing traffic coming in the other direction to stop assuming you are about to do that !!
It infuriates me when people do this as you end up coming to a standstill, only to watch the thicko indicating right go straight on !!! furious
I have seen this and it is very odd. I have mentioned before the woman I was behind once, she made a point of getting into the right hand lane of 2 roundabouts when I was behind her, indicating right, I thought "oh she is likely taking the 3rd exit, or possibly doing a 180", nope as she gets to the first exit she indicates left and goes straight on to exit at the 2nd exit, if I happened to have bern next to her in lane 1, going straight ahead, she would have likely taken the side of my car off.

Sherpa Kev

31 posts

70 months

Saturday 28th October 2023
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Rule 186
Signals and position. When taking the first exit to the left, unless signs or markings indicate otherwise

signal left and approach in the left-hand lane
keep to the left on the roundabout and continue signalling left to leave.
When taking an exit to the right or going full circle, unless signs or markings indicate otherwise

signal right and approach in the right-hand lane
keep to the right on the roundabout until you need to change lanes to exit the roundabout
signal left after you have passed the exit before the one you want.
When taking any intermediate exit, unless signs or markings indicate otherwise

select the appropriate lane on approach to the roundabout
you should not normally need to signal on approach
stay in this lane until you need to alter course to exit the roundabout
signal left after you have passed the exit before the one you want.
When there are more than three lanes at the entrance to a roundabout, use the most appropriate lane on approach and through it.

You should give priority to cyclists on the roundabout. They will be travelling more slowly than motorised traffic. Give them plenty of room and do not attempt to overtake them within their lane. Allow them to move across your path as they travel around the roundabout.

Cyclists, horse riders and horse drawn vehicles may stay in the left-hand lane when they intend to continue across or around the roundabout and should signal right to show you they are not leaving the roundabout. Drivers should take extra care when entering a roundabout to ensure that they do not cut across cyclists, horse riders or horse drawn vehicles in the left-hand lane, who are continuing around the roundabout.

Skyedriver

Original Poster:

17,856 posts

282 months

Saturday 28th October 2023
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Thanks everyone, pretty convincing argument there.
Need to discuss this with his Instructor.


BOR

4,702 posts

255 months

Saturday 28th October 2023
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I can see the logic in indicating right, in order to emphasise to traffic entering at 9 o'clock, that you are continuing past the 9 o'clock exit.

HTP99

22,553 posts

140 months

Saturday 28th October 2023
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BOR said:
I can see the logic in indicating right, in order to emphasise to traffic entering at 9 o'clock, that you are continuing past the 9 o'clock exit.
If I was at their 9 o'clock and to my right I saw someone indicating right, I'd assume they were going round to exit at their 3 o'clock or doing a 180, so therefore I'd likely pull out if I was exiting to my left at their 12 o'clock.

There is literally no reason to indicate right if going straight over!

Sunday Drive

164 posts

20 months

Saturday 28th October 2023
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HTP99 said:
If I was at their 9 o'clock and to my right I saw someone indicating right, I'd assume they were going round to exit at their 3 o'clock or doing a 180, so therefore I'd likely pull out if I was exiting to my left at their 12 o'clock.

There is literally no reason to indicate right if going straight over!
Snap

Pica-Pica

13,796 posts

84 months

Saturday 28th October 2023
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BOR said:
I can see the logic in indicating right, in order to emphasise to traffic entering at 9 o'clock, that you are continuing past the 9 o'clock exit.
No. Just no.

Gary C

12,441 posts

179 months

Saturday 28th October 2023
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I actually got pulled over for indicating right then going straight on (changed my mind and it was safe to do so in my opinion)

Ok, I had just overtaken an unmarked car in my STi and they wanted any reason...

wyson

2,074 posts

104 months

Saturday 28th October 2023
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Depends on what I’m driving to be honest. I tend not to indicate for any reason behind the wheel of a prestige German motor. For some reason indicated religiously driving a Volvo the other day.

OP you didn’t indicate tongue out what car the person traversing the roundabout would be driving?

Edited by wyson on Saturday 28th October 23:01

Smint

1,713 posts

35 months

Sunday 29th October 2023
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I would never indicate right to go straight on at a standard roundabout, but if that's what passes for driving ideals these days and the driving examiner is expecting to see in order to pass the test then maybe wait until the test is passed and then put the person right.

In the real world so hopeless has indicating and road positioning become that i find myself raising a hand in acknowledgement if someone indicates and positions well allowing me to maintain progress, sadly my ackowledgments are becoming less frequent year on year.

The one shining danger of indicating right when going straight on is that as you approach the roundabout, someone waiting to turn left from the left turn will pull out assuming correctly that you are turning right, which is exactly what has been indicated, yes we know there is a school of thought that says you shouldn't take notice of indicators but if that was the case the roads would grind to a halt in minutes and there would be no point in indicating.

Lack of good indication is my pet hate, along with the complete lack of manners and courtesy from people who have presumably been dragged up, it isn't being clever or 'tough' to totally ignore someone who has shown you a courtesy ie letting you pull out, failing to do so shows exactly what that person is.

Gary C

12,441 posts

179 months

Sunday 29th October 2023
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and whats with new drivers sticking to the outside kerb on small (ie single 'lane') islands ?

Ive noticed it more and more and can only assume its now taught.

7mike

3,010 posts

193 months

Sunday 29th October 2023
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Gary C said:
Ive noticed it more and more and can only assume its now taught.
I've noticed more and more drivers flooring it when green lights turn to amber, I can only assume it's now taught rolleyes



Gary C

12,441 posts

179 months

Sunday 29th October 2023
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7mike said:
Gary C said:
Ive noticed it more and more and can only assume its now taught.
I've noticed more and more drivers flooring it when green lights turn to amber, I can only assume it's now taught rolleyes
Why would you think that ?