Too many points to be an Advanced Driver
Discussion
Gromit37 said:
Right Mark M and Mr TripleS... get this sorted out or I'll come roud and bat both of you round the head! 
. Life is too short to make this a long drawn out battle, so shake hands, agree to disagree and if necessary grit your teeth whilst doing it. TripleS you're old enough to know better. Yes... you can try and look innocent, but it won't work with me!
Never work with animals, children or Advanced drivers!
Curses, I've been recognised and me's cover's blown!. Life is too short to make this a long drawn out battle, so shake hands, agree to disagree and if necessary grit your teeth whilst doing it. TripleS you're old enough to know better. Yes... you can try and look innocent, but it won't work with me! Never work with animals, children or Advanced drivers!
BTW, what's this about working with Advanced drivers? I didn't know I was doing - well not very often - but it doesn't matter anyhow 'cos (as it has been pointed out to me) I ain't qualified to associate with such beings.
Best wishes all,
Dave.
TripleS said:
Yes, there certainly is, which is splendid; but it's always a shame when we get distracted away from the important stuff by excessive fuss over things that could well be left alone.Anyhow, I'm glad to see that you and I appear to reached an understanding.
) still learn something beneficial.markmullen said:
I am an IAM Qualified Observer and have just had my latest Associate refused to be tested for having 9 points on his licence.
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Your views would be appreciated
Its things like this that show just how far up their own a*se the IAM are. I was involved for years in a local group, was an Observer, Press Officer etc, but became very disillusioned with the holier-than-thou attitude....
Your views would be appreciated
You don't need a badge and a little laminated card to be an Advanced Driver, nor the approval of some condescending string-backs, you just need some common sense and an above average level of awareness of what’s going on around you.
And IME, the RoSPA lot were worse still (this was years ago mind).
On the subject of steering, something someone said makes me ask...:
In my daily runabout I use push-pull.
However in the Tiv with the more direct steering I can go lock-to-lock without moving my hands on the wheel or being in any way out of control. On the race track I keep my hands fixed and most of the time I do on the road to. Because the steering is so direct would that be acceptable if I took IAM in the TVR?
I quite understand why in most cars it would not be acceptable in most cars which is why I do not use it in the Ford
In my daily runabout I use push-pull.
However in the Tiv with the more direct steering I can go lock-to-lock without moving my hands on the wheel or being in any way out of control. On the race track I keep my hands fixed and most of the time I do on the road to. Because the steering is so direct would that be acceptable if I took IAM in the TVR?
I quite understand why in most cars it would not be acceptable in most cars which is why I do not use it in the Ford
chris_tivver said:
On the subject of steering, something someone said makes me ask...:
In my daily runabout I use push-pull.
However in the Tiv with the more direct steering I can go lock-to-lock without moving my hands on the wheel or being in any way out of control. On the race track I keep my hands fixed and most of the time I do on the road to. Because the steering is so direct would that be acceptable if I took IAM in the TVR?
I quite understand why in most cars it would not be acceptable in most cars which is why I do not use it in the Ford
"They" are unlikely to approve of a race approach to use of the steering wheel.In my daily runabout I use push-pull.
However in the Tiv with the more direct steering I can go lock-to-lock without moving my hands on the wheel or being in any way out of control. On the race track I keep my hands fixed and most of the time I do on the road to. Because the steering is so direct would that be acceptable if I took IAM in the TVR?
I quite understand why in most cars it would not be acceptable in most cars which is why I do not use it in the Ford
Ironically the first "Roadcraft" was written with the assistance of a racing driver of the time.
The purpose being to reduce the numbers of "accidents" Police drivers were having.
Well, racing has moved on.
chris_tivver said:
On the subject of steering, something someone said makes me ask...:
In my daily runabout I use push-pull.
However in the Tiv with the more direct steering I can go lock-to-lock without moving my hands on the wheel or being in any way out of control. On the race track I keep my hands fixed and most of the time I do on the road to. Because the steering is so direct would that be acceptable if I took IAM in the TVR?
Yes. IAM examiners are far more sensible and flexible than some folks give them credit for. However, IAM Observers might encourage you to try a different approach for either valid or invalid reasons. (Valid - eg to have your hands close to the minor controls during slower manoeuvers. Invalid - eg the Observer has no experience of cars like yours or of the full range of steering techniques which can give you good control, smoothness and sensitivity).In my daily runabout I use push-pull.
However in the Tiv with the more direct steering I can go lock-to-lock without moving my hands on the wheel or being in any way out of control. On the race track I keep my hands fixed and most of the time I do on the road to. Because the steering is so direct would that be acceptable if I took IAM in the TVR?
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