Gearchange video
Discussion
Just a quickie, this, to accompany my original post on gearchanging here...
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
In the video, you'll see me turn right from a T-junction and then go up through the gears to 5th. Watch the movement of the rev counter to see what I'm doing with my right foot during the upchanges.
You'll then see me do a systematic right turn into a junction, accompanied with a block change down to 2nd.
Following a short drive, you'll see me perform a favourite little gearchanging exercise, where I hold the car at a given speed (40ish mph in this case), whilst changing between various random gears, either raising or lowering the engine revs during the change to smooth it out.
Notice how, with practice, these gearchanges can be just as quick as other techniques.
Other videos to follow...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTScu7jOJd0
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
In the video, you'll see me turn right from a T-junction and then go up through the gears to 5th. Watch the movement of the rev counter to see what I'm doing with my right foot during the upchanges.
You'll then see me do a systematic right turn into a junction, accompanied with a block change down to 2nd.
Following a short drive, you'll see me perform a favourite little gearchanging exercise, where I hold the car at a given speed (40ish mph in this case), whilst changing between various random gears, either raising or lowering the engine revs during the change to smooth it out.
Notice how, with practice, these gearchanges can be just as quick as other techniques.
Other videos to follow...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTScu7jOJd0
K13 WJD said:
im not going to get into arguments about my mother. and neither are you.
perhaps i miss-read the orig topic. i was looking at it from a performance point view.
Then perhaps you should learn what "performance" means from a road driving perspective before offering criticism.perhaps i miss-read the orig topic. i was looking at it from a performance point view.
Video was a bit easier to watch than the OT'ing one!
Confirms nicely how I had imagined what you were describing in your posts before. Fortunately very similar to how my driving instructor taught me from the start. I have been putting extra effort in since you made your post though.
Perhaps in the future videos it would be nice to see how you approach gearchanges after a significant deceleration period. An approach to a roundabout from NSL road possibly.
Confirms nicely how I had imagined what you were describing in your posts before. Fortunately very similar to how my driving instructor taught me from the start. I have been putting extra effort in since you made your post though.
Perhaps in the future videos it would be nice to see how you approach gearchanges after a significant deceleration period. An approach to a roundabout from NSL road possibly.
Just a semi-related thought here...
In your video, you showed a lot of systematic approaches to turns and stuff. I was wondering, given a man of your experience, how would you apply the system to driving a traditional automatic vehicle?
I think that would be interesting to see actually.
In your video, you showed a lot of systematic approaches to turns and stuff. I was wondering, given a man of your experience, how would you apply the system to driving a traditional automatic vehicle?
I think that would be interesting to see actually.
K13 WJD said:
im not going to get into arguments about my mother. and neither are you.
perhaps i miss-read the orig topic. i was looking at it from a performance point view.
Ok, Yesterday I was at the British GT race. I can think of 4 identical cars to show the contrast. The Cadena Car's 2nd stint was seriously messy. Nose going everywhere. Tom Alexander looked really messy taking way too much kerb. Jonny Cocker, Guy Harrington and Ben De Zille Butler all looked seriously smooth, none of them were loading up the car excessively, all were changing direction better, getting the power down earlier as a result. Guess what? They all finished on the podium.perhaps i miss-read the orig topic. i was looking at it from a performance point view.
Reg's tutes are great for showing you to keep things smooth. There are advantages to this on the road and on the track.
I found it rather hard to make out what the rev counter was doing due to the amount of camera shake, but one thing that was noticeable is that the camera didn't seem to move around during the gear changes. I think that's a good indication of a nice smooth drive.
I've often thought it would be useful to have something in frame that shows the acceleration visually. This is useful to show how the car is being loaded up for performance driving, and also for this sort of thing to show how smoothly you're driving. In principle I can post process the video to add an overlay from the data logger if that's running, but it's a lot of work and I think there must be a simpler solution with a mechanical indicator in the dashboard. Obviously the fluffy dice give some indication but I think a better solution is needed. The only solution I've found so far is to soft mount the camera slightly away from the CoG so that it moves slightly when the car is loaded up. That introduces camera shake though and isn't really adequate.
I've often thought it would be useful to have something in frame that shows the acceleration visually. This is useful to show how the car is being loaded up for performance driving, and also for this sort of thing to show how smoothly you're driving. In principle I can post process the video to add an overlay from the data logger if that's running, but it's a lot of work and I think there must be a simpler solution with a mechanical indicator in the dashboard. Obviously the fluffy dice give some indication but I think a better solution is needed. The only solution I've found so far is to soft mount the camera slightly away from the CoG so that it moves slightly when the car is loaded up. That introduces camera shake though and isn't really adequate.
K13 WJD said:
"just as quick" my mother can change gear much faster.
Not sure what your getting at here...........didnt see anything interesting. you'd have been as well not using the clutch.
In that case, you either don't know what you're looking for, or havn't looked hard enough.Not sure what your getting at here...........didnt see anything interesting. you'd have been as well not using the clutch.
Another very handy vid for reference Reg. When's the DVD out?
I take the front tyres survived this particular demo?
Bagman said:
K13 WJD said:
im not going to get into arguments about my mother. and neither are you.
perhaps i miss-read the orig topic. i was looking at it from a performance point view.
Ok, Yesterday I was at the British GT race. I can think of 4 identical cars to show the contrast. The Cadena Car's 2nd stint was seriously messy. Nose going everywhere. Tom Alexander looked really messy taking way too much kerb. Jonny Cocker, Guy Harrington and Ben De Zille Butler all looked seriously smooth, none of them were loading up the car excessively, all were changing direction better, getting the power down earlier as a result. Guess what? They all finished on the podium.perhaps i miss-read the orig topic. i was looking at it from a performance point view.
Reg's tutes are great for showing you to keep things smooth. There are advantages to this on the road and on the track.
JACKIE STEWART: Oh unquestionably Jim Clark.
DAVID FROST: Right.
JACKIE STEWART: I mean I hero-worshipped Fangio but Jim Clark was the best racing driver I ever raced against, he was smooth, he was clean, he was honest, he was courteous, he was dignified, on the track, I mean and off the track but a master.
Be smooth and swift - not just fast. You can develop that enthusiasm for driving by being a smoother driver, Sir Jackie says. "You want to be gentle with the gas pedal, gentle with the brake pedal. You should be able to read the small print in a newspaper with a good driver. You want to be a driver that makes him or herself look good, to your family or your boyfriend or girlfriend."
One last thing, the BEST race drivers are the ones that look the slowest. Because they are SMOOTH. Gentle motions on the steering wheel and brakes and gas. At any racing school, the word you will hear instructors say the most is be SMOOTH. And it works on the street. Practice this and you AND your passengers will be more comfortable.
Just some random quotes. Stewart? Now, why does that name ring a bell, he wasn't a performance driver was he...?
Edited by andy_s on Sunday 26th August 16:20
At least the great YouTube viewing public enjoyed it 
IAM spokesman said:
"buddy, burger king is down the road somewhere. Are you serious? A video about gearchanges? Is this meant to be a mockumentary of some sort? Some truly retarded gear changing, learn to use the left pedal properly, and no you have no idea how to heel and toe. Please i wish people would stop molesting thier cars on the internet and then passing it off as skilled driving. 
off!"
off!"carrotchomper said:
At least the great YouTube viewing public enjoyed it
That's more like it, informative, entertaining and educative, bravo!IAM spokesman said:
"buddy, burger king is down the road somewhere. Are you serious? A video about gearchanges? Is this meant to be a mockumentary of some sort? Some truly retarded gear changing, learn to use the left pedal properly, and no you have no idea how to heel and toe. Please i wish people would stop molesting thier cars on the internet and then passing it off as skilled driving. off!"
off!"it would appear i have made a complete knob end of myself.
I was drunk, and presumed the thread you refered to was in fact the one about double-de-clutching.
Having now actaully read the thread you refer to, i see that the video, is infact a very good depiction of what you describe.
And, having now watched it again with the speakers actaully on, i can hear its nice and smooth.
I'd like to see a video of your heel and toe.......
I was drunk, and presumed the thread you refered to was in fact the one about double-de-clutching.
Having now actaully read the thread you refer to, i see that the video, is infact a very good depiction of what you describe.
And, having now watched it again with the speakers actaully on, i can hear its nice and smooth.
I'd like to see a video of your heel and toe.......
iLiekCarz said:
Just a semi-related thought here...
In your video, you showed a lot of systematic approaches to turns and stuff. I was wondering, given a man of your experience, how would you apply the system to driving a traditional automatic vehicle?
I think that would be interesting to see actually.
I'll put "driving automatics" down on my list of future posts.In your video, you showed a lot of systematic approaches to turns and stuff. I was wondering, given a man of your experience, how would you apply the system to driving a traditional automatic vehicle?
I think that would be interesting to see actually.
7db said:
Great video, Reg.
Classic coppers hands on the steering. Lovely.
I am what I am!Classic coppers hands on the steering. Lovely.
WeirdNeville said:
I take the front tyres survived this particular demo?
Yes they did, thanks Nev. Mostly because this wasn't just a series of flat-out right handers.For those who are wondering, here's the result of a trackday at Llandow that Nev and I attended...
K13 WJD said:
it would appear i have made a complete knob end of myself.
I was drunk, and presumed the thread you refered to was in fact the one about double-de-clutching.
Having now actaully read the thread you refer to, i see that the video, is infact a very good depiction of what you describe.
And, having now watched it again with the speakers actaully on, i can hear its nice and smooth.
I'd like to see a video of your heel and toe.......
No problem. I'll consider an H+T video, but it's only something I use very infrequently on the road.I was drunk, and presumed the thread you refered to was in fact the one about double-de-clutching.
Having now actaully read the thread you refer to, i see that the video, is infact a very good depiction of what you describe.
And, having now watched it again with the speakers actaully on, i can hear its nice and smooth.
I'd like to see a video of your heel and toe.......
iLiekCarz said:
His name on Youtube is "davidmclaughlin01". He was even kind enough to register with his real name.
Poor kid.
I've sent him a reply. Poor kid.
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