Gearchange video

[Bagman]

R_U_LOCAL said:

iLiekCarz said:

Just a semi-related thought here...

In your video, you showed a lot of systematic approaches to turns and stuff. I was wondering, given a man of your experience, how would you apply the system to driving a traditional automatic vehicle?

I think that would be interesting to see actually.

I'll put "driving automatics" down on my list of future posts.

7db said:

Great video, Reg.

Classic coppers hands on the steering. Lovely.

I am what I am!

WeirdNeville said:

I take the front tyres survived this particular demo?

Yes they did, thanks Nev. Mostly because this wasn't just a series of flat-out right handers.

For those who are wondering, here's the result of a trackday at Llandow that Nev and I attended...

K13 WJD said:

it would appear i have made a complete knob end of myself.

I was drunk, and presumed the thread you refered to was in fact the one about double-de-clutching.

Having now actaully read the thread you refer to, i see that the video, is infact a very good depiction of what you describe.

And, having now watched it again with the speakers actaully on, i can hear its nice and smooth.

I'd like to see a video of your heel and toe.......

No problem. I'll consider an H+T video, but it's only something I use very infrequently on the road.

iLiekCarz said:

His name on Youtube is "davidmclaughlin01". He was even kind enough to register with his real name.

Poor kid.

I've sent him a reply.

I do hope you had a spare set of wheels???!!

[R_U_LOCAL]

CommanderJameson said:

Are you changing gear on a slightly trailing throttle? Someone on here told me that this would help smooth things out, and they were right. Dunno if it's good practice, but clutch down on falling revs seems to help me - or am I doing something silly here?

If you mean on the upchanges, then yes, I am. Rather than letting the revs drop to tickover, it's better to let them drop just to the correct engine speed for the road speed in the next gear.

Edited by R_U_LOCAL on Sunday 26th August 21:24

[GreenV8S]

I hope that wasn't yours. It should never have been allowed to wear that far.

[R_U_LOCAL]

GreenV8S said:

I hope that wasn't yours. It should never have been allowed to wear that far.

It's not wear. If you look at the rest of the tread on the tyre, it's more than sufficient for a dry track day. On this occasion, an inch-wide strip of tread delaminated from the tyre face on a fast right-hander. I recognised the lack of grip immediately and came into the pits straight away. That particular track is very hard on front left tyres, but I was very surprised that the tread stripped from the tyre like that.

[GreenV8S]

R_U_LOCAL said:

GreenV8S said:

I hope that wasn't yours. It should never have been allowed to wear that far.

It's not wear. If you look at the rest of the tread on the tyre, it's more than sufficient for a dry track day. On this occasion, an inch-wide strip of tread delaminated from the tyre face on a fast right-hander. I recognised the lack of grip immediately and came into the pits straight away. That particular track is very hard on front left tyres, but I was very surprised that the tread stripped from the tyre like that.

I can't make it out from the picture, but I assume that there's a step at the edge rather than progressive wear down to the canvas. Are there any signs of tyre/body contact?

[R_U_LOCAL]

GreenV8S said:

I can't make it out from the picture, but I assume that there's a step at the edge rather than progressive wear down to the canvas. Are there any signs of tyre/body contact?

Yes, it steps at the edge of the tread. There was no contact with bodywork - I just think it delaminated due to a combination of excessive heat and stress.

It's not what I'd normally expect from a Michelin Pilot though.

[GreenV8S]

R_U_LOCAL said:

It's not what I'd normally expect from a Michelin Pilot though.

Nor me. I'd be interested to know what Michelin make of it. Was it correctly inflated and within its speed rating?

[R_U_LOCAL]

GreenV8S said:

R_U_LOCAL said:

It's not what I'd normally expect from a Michelin Pilot though.

Nor me. I'd be interested to know what Michelin make of it. Was it correctly inflated and within its speed rating?

It was, yes. In defence of the tyre, it is an extremely grippy track surface which is notoriously hard on front left tyres. It was a very hot day (by this summer's standards, anyway) and I'd been pushing fairly hard in the few previous laps. The tyre was approaching it's wear indicators and was ready for replacement anyway.

The lack of grip was immediately obvious, and I was able to pull off the track without any unpleasantness.

I think I'll just put this one down to experience.

[iLiekCarz]

Just imagine if that would have been a chav racing that car. I bet you the immediate lack of grip wouldn't have bothered Mr Chav and he would have continued on regardless.

[Flintstone]

You and yer fancy northern ways.

Like to see you track a proper car. Something like, say, a Scenic. Only an outright loon would take one of those on track.....................

[GreenV8S]

Flintstone said:

Like to see you track a proper car. Something like, say, a Scenic. Only an outright loon would take one of those on track.....................

There seems to be something wrong with the suspension on that one. Is the driver really really fat?

[R_U_LOCAL]

GreenV8S said:

Flintstone said:

Like to see you track a proper car. Something like, say, a Scenic. Only an outright loon would take one of those on track.....................

There seems to be something wrong with the suspension on that one. Is the driver really really fat?

No, just ginger.

Oh, and a complete ruddy loon!

[Flintstone]

I preferred the pic where he has it on three wheels and is giving the cameraman the thumbs up

[Yung Man]

K13 WJD said:

it would appear i have made a complete knob end of myself.

I was drunk, and presumed the thread you refered to was in fact the one about double-de-clutching.

Having now actaully read the thread you refer to, i see that the video, is infact a very good depiction of what you describe.

And, having now watched it again with the speakers actaully on, i can hear its nice and smooth.

I'd like to see a video of your heel and toe.......

YOUR FIRST QUOTE.........

[report] Yesterday (10:47)
"just as quick" my mother can change gear much faster.

Not sure what your getting at here...........didnt see anything interesting. you'd have been as well not using the clutch.



You sir have a drink problem, drunk at 10am tut tut.

[K13 WJD]

being drunk at 10 am isnt a problem......STARTING to drink at 10 am is....but being drunk from the litre of single malt the night before is perfectly acceptable. so long as you have no intentions of driving. or for that matter, doing anything !

[Yung Man]

K13 WJD said:

being drunk at 10 am isnt a problem......STARTING to drink at 10 am is....but being drunk from the litre of single malt the night before is perfectly acceptable. so long as you have no intentions of driving. or for that matter, doing anything !

It's bad enough disagreeing with some folk on here at the best of times but to do in in "Advanced Driving" is as one person said, "not going to win you any friends".

Cheers.

[R39S1]

Thanks for the video, I found it very useful, not so sure about the hairy knees mind you! The young gentleman on you tube looks like a prime exponent of the CHAV driving system!

[supermono]

R_U_LOCAL said:

In the video, you'll see me turn right from a T-junction and then go up through the gears to 5th. Watch the movement of the rev counter to see what I'm doing with my right foot during the upchanges.

You'll then see me do a systematic right turn into a junction, accompanied with a block change down to 2nd.

Following a short drive, you'll see me perform a favourite little gearchanging exercise, where I hold the car at a given speed (40ish mph in this case), whilst changing between various random gears, either raising or lowering the engine revs during the change to smooth it out.

Notice how, with practice, these gearchanges can be just as quick as other techniques.

Other videos to follow...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTScu7jOJd0

How does one contribute to youtube? I have an equally thrilling video of me asleep in bed. You will notice that I start off laying on my left side, then after a period of time I turn onto my back and eventually on my right side. From time to time my left arm curls up over my head, later returning to my side.

Notice how, during the course of the night, my hairstyle becomes a shambles.

SM

[bramley]

I have no idea who you are or what you do, but I've just watched a video of a random bloke changing gear. I can change gear too, even my wife can. Fortunately for the rest of the population neither my wife nor I see fit to record such achingly dull activities and broadcast them across the interweb. Perhaps my assumption that the other members of this forum are competent at changing gear is misguided as some of the replies to this thread suggest you have just discovered the 8th wonder of the world and are revealing it for the first time.

Can I have 2mins 40s of my life back now please?

[m12_nathan]

R_U_LOCAL said:

You need more camber.