IAM and lane changes

[vonhosen]

R_U_LOCAL said:

Hooli said:

whats this offsiding being mentioned?
I'm guessing its something like moving to the wrong side of the road for improved view around a left hander?

There is no "right and wrong" side of the road. In Police advanced driving, we teach students to move as far offside as it's safe on the approach to left-hand bends, to increase your view and extend the radius of the turn.

Sometimes, because of white line systems, limited view, offside hazards etc, then "as far offside as it's safe" is just to the left of the centre-line. On other occasions, it can be just to the left of the offside verge.

I understand where the IAM are coming from in discouraging it if someone is watching, but I don't agree with it. I couldn't care less if other people mis-understand my actions when I'm driving.

Not all Police forces teach it though (let alone the IAM).
It's also something that (in my experience) a lot of people who think they know what they are doing, get all arse about face & do at inappropriate times.
Some times a little knowledge can be a dangerous thing.

Edited by vonhosen on Saturday 15th September 23:28

[7db]

R_U_LOCAL said:

I couldn't care less if other people mis-understand my actions when I'm driving.

What if someone is spooked, panicked or takes evasive action as a result?
I do care if someone misunderstands my actions whilst driving, and I think the likely interpretation and action of the unskilled other driver is something which I should seek to accommodate.

More so for me than for you, Reg, as I might have the additional problem of his being a Police Officer...

[mph999]

vonhosen said:

It's also something that (in my experience) a lot of people who think they know what they are doing, get all arse about face & do at inappropriate times.

Fair point Von ... and one that I am aware of.

Martin

Edited by mph999 on Sunday 16th September 01:10

Edited by mph999 on Sunday 16th September 19:17

[vonhosen]

I think you've messed up the quoting there.

Edited by vonhosen on Sunday 16th September 01:15

[TripleS]

7db said:

R_U_LOCAL said:

I couldn't care less if other people mis-understand my actions when I'm driving.

What if someone is spooked, panicked or takes evasive action as a result?
I do care if someone misunderstands my actions whilst driving, and I think the likely interpretation and action of the unskilled other driver is something which I should seek to accommodate.

More so for me than for you, Reg, as I might have the additional problem of his being a Police Officer...

If the Police Officer is Traffic (sorry, RPU) or at any rate a proper advanced driver he'll understand what you're doing and he'll be OK about it; and certainly it won't mislead him into doing anything untoward, such as might happen with a normal driver.

For my own purposes I do prefer to try and be mindful of how others may be affected by what I do.

Edited to add:

One of my favourite local B roads has two RH bends about 100 yards apart. The first one has excellent vision and if clear I'll cut that one right across to the offside verge. The second bend has a drystone wall which prevents a decent view of the road beyond the bend, so I never cut that one at all. Recently I was followed by somebody, a little distance back from me, and I gave the two bends my usual treatment. Looking in the mirror I saw the other guy cut both bends, and I wondered if I had influenced that. Just something to think about I guess.

Best wishes all,
Dave.

Edited by TripleS on Sunday 16th September 09:36

[vonhosen]

TripleS said:

7db said:

R_U_LOCAL said:

I couldn't care less if other people mis-understand my actions when I'm driving.

What if someone is spooked, panicked or takes evasive action as a result?
I do care if someone misunderstands my actions whilst driving, and I think the likely interpretation and action of the unskilled other driver is something which I should seek to accommodate.

More so for me than for you, Reg, as I might have the additional problem of his being a Police Officer...

If the Police Officer is Traffic (sorry, RPU) or at any rate a proper advanced driver he'll understand what you're doing and he'll be OK about it; and certainly it won't mislead him into doing anything untoward, such as might happen with a normal driver.

For my own purposes I do prefer to try and be mindful of how others may be affected by what I do.

Edited to add:

One of my favourite local B roads has two RH bends about 100 yards apart. The first one has excellent vision and if clear I'll cut that one right across to the offside verge. The second bend has a drystone wall which prevents a decent view of the road beyond the bend, so I never cut that one at all. Recently I was followed by somebody, a little distance back from me, and I gave the two bends my usual treatment. Looking in the mirror I saw the other guy cut both bends, and I wondered if I had influenced that. Just something to think about I guess.

Best wishes all,
Dave.

That's assuming that the trafpol agrees with your assessment of what is appropriate or necessary.

[TripleS]

vonhosen said:

TripleS said:

7db said:

R_U_LOCAL said:

I couldn't care less if other people mis-understand my actions when I'm driving.

What if someone is spooked, panicked or takes evasive action as a result?
I do care if someone misunderstands my actions whilst driving, and I think the likely interpretation and action of the unskilled other driver is something which I should seek to accommodate.

More so for me than for you, Reg, as I might have the additional problem of his being a Police Officer...

If the Police Officer is Traffic (sorry, RPU) or at any rate a proper advanced driver he'll understand what you're doing and he'll be OK about it; and certainly it won't mislead him into doing anything untoward, such as might happen with a normal driver.

For my own purposes I do prefer to try and be mindful of how others may be affected by what I do.

Edited to add:

One of my favourite local B roads has two RH bends about 100 yards apart. The first one has excellent vision and if clear I'll cut that one right across to the offside verge. The second bend has a drystone wall which prevents a decent view of the road beyond the bend, so I never cut that one at all. Recently I was followed by somebody, a little distance back from me, and I gave the two bends my usual treatment. Looking in the mirror I saw the other guy cut both bends, and I wondered if I had influenced that. Just something to think about I guess.

Best wishes all,
Dave.

That's assuming that the trafpol agrees with your assessment of what is appropriate or necessary.

Oh I'm sure he would.

Best wishes all,
Dave.

[mph999]

vonhosen said:

I think you've messed up the quoting there.

Edited by vonhosen on Sunday 16th September 01:15

Yep, - fixed now, thanks