How to block the motorway without really trying
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i think that this topic has been a waste of time as the guilty parties will certainly not be reading any of this as they have no more interest in driving and cars as they do gas bills and electricity suppliers.
those who pass on the left often seem to confuse the lane hoggers further creating a rabbit in headlights effect on the hogs who then become even more reluctant to move over. Also 'educating' others by driving up to the hogs tailgate just makes you look like a fcukwit and encourages the hog to act passive aggressive and slow down further.
end of discussion - no more answers.
those who pass on the left often seem to confuse the lane hoggers further creating a rabbit in headlights effect on the hogs who then become even more reluctant to move over. Also 'educating' others by driving up to the hogs tailgate just makes you look like a fcukwit and encourages the hog to act passive aggressive and slow down further.
end of discussion - no more answers.
My last thoughts on this one goes like this.
Option 1 - Approach said lane hogger with due care to within a safe distance, flash high beams once for a couple of seconds to alert him/her to your prescence and them move over left indicating as you do so. Hopefully at this point the other driver will take the hint and move left with you. Wait until he has fully moved into the other lane. Mirrors, signal, move out into the next lane and use your obviously superior acceleration to get past the knob before he has a chance to cut you up thereby freeing up the space on the carriage way for those motorists who wish to travel faster than he/she is.
Option 2 - Have your 'marksman' passenger shoot his mirrors with a paintball gun as he obviously isn't using them properly. If this fails to get his attention commence firing on the rear window as the sound of the impact should distract him long enough for you to whiz past on the inside whilst giving him/her the 'bird' to emphasize the point.
Option 3 - have blue strobe lights fitted to the front of your vehicle and time how long it takes the other driver to spot/react/move over. NOTE this option may not work if you drive a lotus or other small car. It will probably work best if you drive a white sprinter/new shape transit or volvo/bmw estate.
Option 4 - Bigfoot... nuffsaid
PS please note these are all supposed to be light hearted and I personally would not condone the use of any of the above methods...
Option 1 - Approach said lane hogger with due care to within a safe distance, flash high beams once for a couple of seconds to alert him/her to your prescence and them move over left indicating as you do so. Hopefully at this point the other driver will take the hint and move left with you. Wait until he has fully moved into the other lane. Mirrors, signal, move out into the next lane and use your obviously superior acceleration to get past the knob before he has a chance to cut you up thereby freeing up the space on the carriage way for those motorists who wish to travel faster than he/she is.
Option 2 - Have your 'marksman' passenger shoot his mirrors with a paintball gun as he obviously isn't using them properly. If this fails to get his attention commence firing on the rear window as the sound of the impact should distract him long enough for you to whiz past on the inside whilst giving him/her the 'bird' to emphasize the point.
Option 3 - have blue strobe lights fitted to the front of your vehicle and time how long it takes the other driver to spot/react/move over. NOTE this option may not work if you drive a lotus or other small car. It will probably work best if you drive a white sprinter/new shape transit or volvo/bmw estate.
Option 4 - Bigfoot... nuffsaid
PS please note these are all supposed to be light hearted and I personally would not condone the use of any of the above methods...
Edited by Rebuilda on Wednesday 10th October 23:30
You upholders of the law here, I think you are in danger of treating Brother Mycroft like the occasional loony who weaves between lanes squeezing through closing gaps in best video game style. That sort of lane indiscipline is irresponsible and should be jumped on. No doubt it would be if we had more traffpols on the road. I don't think Brother Mycroft advocates driving anything like that.
He advocates driving in a manner which is accepted practise in America, which the authorities here have seriously considered explicitly permitting, towards which the HWC made considerable concessions when it left out all reference to moving slowly or to queues from para 242 (just replaced version), and which would increase the capacity of crowded motorways. By all means disagree and warn him to be extra careful of drivers moving to the left without looking (BTW is this a known cause of accidents?), but please don't treat him as stupid or irresponsible.
And please please campaign for better education on multi-lane road driving. Too many people think they are driving in lanes, rather than overtaking. If you have space alongside you when anything goes wrong in front of you, you have so much more chance of avoiding the problem in front - it's the 'balloon of road safety' concept which so few drivers understand.
Meanwhile, Brother Mycroft, if I am in that Clio following the Sorrento at a comfortable 100m gap, and waiting patiently for him to pull in, please do not pass me on the left, and then come out into the gap in front of me forcing me to drop back to recover my relaxed following distance!
He advocates driving in a manner which is accepted practise in America, which the authorities here have seriously considered explicitly permitting, towards which the HWC made considerable concessions when it left out all reference to moving slowly or to queues from para 242 (just replaced version), and which would increase the capacity of crowded motorways. By all means disagree and warn him to be extra careful of drivers moving to the left without looking (BTW is this a known cause of accidents?), but please don't treat him as stupid or irresponsible.
And please please campaign for better education on multi-lane road driving. Too many people think they are driving in lanes, rather than overtaking. If you have space alongside you when anything goes wrong in front of you, you have so much more chance of avoiding the problem in front - it's the 'balloon of road safety' concept which so few drivers understand.
Meanwhile, Brother Mycroft, if I am in that Clio following the Sorrento at a comfortable 100m gap, and waiting patiently for him to pull in, please do not pass me on the left, and then come out into the gap in front of me forcing me to drop back to recover my relaxed following distance!
waremark said:
You upholders of the law here, I think you are in danger of treating Brother Mycroft like the occasional loony who weaves between lanes squeezing through closing gaps in best video game style. That sort of lane indiscipline is irresponsible and should be jumped on. No doubt it would be if we had more traffpols on the road. I don't think Brother Mycroft advocates driving anything like that.
He advocates driving in a manner which is accepted practise in America, which the authorities here have seriously considered explicitly permitting, towards which the HWC made considerable concessions when it left out all reference to moving slowly or to queues from para 242 (just replaced version), and which would increase the capacity of crowded motorways. By all means disagree and warn him to be extra careful of drivers moving to the left without looking (BTW is this a known cause of accidents?), but please don't treat him as stupid or irresponsible.
And please please campaign for better education on multi-lane road driving. Too many people think they are driving in lanes, rather than overtaking. If you have space alongside you when anything goes wrong in front of you, you have so much more chance of avoiding the problem in front - it's the 'balloon of road safety' concept which so few drivers understand.
Meanwhile, Brother Mycroft, if I am in that Clio following the Sorrento at a comfortable 100m gap, and waiting patiently for him to pull in, please do not pass me on the left, and then come out into the gap in front of me forcing me to drop back to recover my relaxed following distance!
You can drive in the certain and sure knowledge that forming a 'snake' [even a three car one] is not my way of driving.He advocates driving in a manner which is accepted practise in America, which the authorities here have seriously considered explicitly permitting, towards which the HWC made considerable concessions when it left out all reference to moving slowly or to queues from para 242 (just replaced version), and which would increase the capacity of crowded motorways. By all means disagree and warn him to be extra careful of drivers moving to the left without looking (BTW is this a known cause of accidents?), but please don't treat him as stupid or irresponsible.
And please please campaign for better education on multi-lane road driving. Too many people think they are driving in lanes, rather than overtaking. If you have space alongside you when anything goes wrong in front of you, you have so much more chance of avoiding the problem in front - it's the 'balloon of road safety' concept which so few drivers understand.
Meanwhile, Brother Mycroft, if I am in that Clio following the Sorrento at a comfortable 100m gap, and waiting patiently for him to pull in, please do not pass me on the left, and then come out into the gap in front of me forcing me to drop back to recover my relaxed following distance!
I have for all the 30 years I have driven remembered the words of all those from which I have learnt... 'never impede the progress of others or cause them to brake unnecesarily' a lesson learnt at 12 [when I started driving] and not forgotten.
Driving on a DC lane 1, 50mph limit, at an indicated 50 on speedo. Car passes slowly in lane 2 and then holds station on my offside front. Approaching speed camera I maintain my indicated 50 but car in lane 2 slows to 45.
What should I done? Brake and risk a rear end shunt from a tail-gater or undertake?
What should I done? Brake and risk a rear end shunt from a tail-gater or undertake?
ST2 said:
Driving on a DC lane 1, 50mph limit, at an indicated 50 on speedo. Car passes slowly in lane 2 and then holds station on my offside front. Approaching speed camera I maintain my indicated 50 but car in lane 2 slows to 45.
What should I done? Brake and risk a rear end shunt from a tail-gater or undertake?
carry on & ignore the retard who cant read a speedo. i would anyway. you have made no change to your driving, i wouldnt consider that an undertake. in my eyes i believe an undertake is when you make postive actions to pass on the left, such as move left then acclerate.What should I done? Brake and risk a rear end shunt from a tail-gater or undertake?
ST2 said:
Driving on a DC lane 1, 50mph limit, at an indicated 50 on speedo. Car passes slowly in lane 2 and then holds station on my offside front. Approaching speed camera I maintain my indicated 50 but car in lane 2 slows to 45.
What should I done? Brake and risk a rear end shunt from a tail-gater or undertake?
I think thats called maintaining proper progess or something like that, a situation that is out of your 'control'. What should I done? Brake and risk a rear end shunt from a tail-gater or undertake?
Don't tailgate people to provoke them to move. I think most people would simply become more stubborn. A short main beam flash should be unaggressive enough to yield a response from anyone with eyes.
I don't think HATO vehicles should be banned from driving at 60, it is up to other road users to know what speed they are allowed to travel at and that there is no way they will get pulled over for doing 70 in a 70, assuming the conditions are appropriate.
I wonder what the time period is from moving into lane 1 and being allowed to then "make progress" in that lane, assuming someone is hogging lane 2? Obviously a cut in and undertake will get you unwanted attention from BiB, but what if you move over, wait a while and then gently accelerate to pass them gradually?
I don't think HATO vehicles should be banned from driving at 60, it is up to other road users to know what speed they are allowed to travel at and that there is no way they will get pulled over for doing 70 in a 70, assuming the conditions are appropriate.
I wonder what the time period is from moving into lane 1 and being allowed to then "make progress" in that lane, assuming someone is hogging lane 2? Obviously a cut in and undertake will get you unwanted attention from BiB, but what if you move over, wait a while and then gently accelerate to pass them gradually?
I usually undertake.
A flash can be ok depending on the circumstances, but it's usually a bit too aggressive for my liking.
Sitting behind them for miles one tends to get restless and frustrated, and it's all too easy to get too close to the back of them which is much more dangerous IMO.
Besides which, as somoene pointed out early, if they're dozy enough to be in the outside lane they are almost certainly dozy enough to cut across you - on the other hand they're equally certainly dozy enough to do something else stupid when you're behind them. I'd rather minimize the time I spend in close proximity to such people.
I know the "right" thing to do is to wait patiently, but taht is seldom rewarded. Lane discipline basically doesn't exist in this country, especially in the north where old men in Hondas think that if they're doing over 50 they should be in the "fast lane."
Wait until they've gone on a clear half a mile or so when they could have moved in, then get past as quickly as possible, leaving as much room as possible. I don't usually bother with beeping or flashing.
A flash can be ok depending on the circumstances, but it's usually a bit too aggressive for my liking.
Sitting behind them for miles one tends to get restless and frustrated, and it's all too easy to get too close to the back of them which is much more dangerous IMO.
Besides which, as somoene pointed out early, if they're dozy enough to be in the outside lane they are almost certainly dozy enough to cut across you - on the other hand they're equally certainly dozy enough to do something else stupid when you're behind them. I'd rather minimize the time I spend in close proximity to such people.
I know the "right" thing to do is to wait patiently, but taht is seldom rewarded. Lane discipline basically doesn't exist in this country, especially in the north where old men in Hondas think that if they're doing over 50 they should be in the "fast lane."
Wait until they've gone on a clear half a mile or so when they could have moved in, then get past as quickly as possible, leaving as much room as possible. I don't usually bother with beeping or flashing.
Yung Man said:
What can you do when a driver decides he can't be bothered using his mirrors and the only option (IMO) is to break the law and do a undertake?.
Its quite antisocial but I've decided the only way forward is to educate people on the error in their ways. By that I mean follow at a sensible distance whilst using your horn and main beam to their fullest extent. Eventually numpty will notice you in that funny shiny thing in the middle at the top of their windscreen and feel so uncomfortable that they will pull over. If it is safe and appropriate, be sure to give them the stare of death as you pass.The theory is that the numpties will associate the empty lane to their left with that uncomfortable heat as the blood rushes to their skin. Eventually, the slow will be conditioned into using the leftmost lane possible without even thinking about it - a bit like they don't think about the rest of their driving.
It could work.
Some people will never learn. This is why I love sending them to court for Undertaking. It is driving without due care and consideration for other road users.
UNDERTAKNG is lovely because it gives me a chance to prosecute those that believe they don't have to play by the same rules as those that comply with them.
It is the same for those that remain in the outside lanes unnecessarily. Enjoy your day in court.
UNDERTAKNG is lovely because it gives me a chance to prosecute those that believe they don't have to play by the same rules as those that comply with them.
It is the same for those that remain in the outside lanes unnecessarily. Enjoy your day in court.
time2react said:
Some people will never learn. This is why I love sending them to court for Undertaking. It is driving without due care and consideration for other road users.
UNDERTAKNG is lovely because it gives me a chance to prosecute those that believe they don't have to play by the same rules as those that comply with them.
It is the same for those that remain in the outside lanes unnecessarily. Enjoy your day in court.
You do the police service no favours at exactly the same time. Enjoy a life time of contempt.UNDERTAKNG is lovely because it gives me a chance to prosecute those that believe they don't have to play by the same rules as those that comply with them.
It is the same for those that remain in the outside lanes unnecessarily. Enjoy your day in court.
time2react said:
Some people will never learn.
It is the same for those that remain in the outside lanes unnecessarily. Enjoy your day in court.
How many people (roughly) have you booked for either example of inconsiderate driving?, perhaps if you spent more time booking people for being in lane 3 (when they should keep left) then you would'nt need to book people for undertaking.It is the same for those that remain in the outside lanes unnecessarily. Enjoy your day in court.
Brother Mycroft said:
time2react said:
Some people will never learn. This is why I love sending them to court for Undertaking. It is driving without due care and consideration for other road users.
UNDERTAKNG is lovely because it gives me a chance to prosecute those that believe they don't have to play by the same rules as those that comply with them.
It is the same for those that remain in the outside lanes unnecessarily. Enjoy your day in court.
You do the police service no favours at exactly the same time. Enjoy a life time of contempt.UNDERTAKNG is lovely because it gives me a chance to prosecute those that believe they don't have to play by the same rules as those that comply with them.
It is the same for those that remain in the outside lanes unnecessarily. Enjoy your day in court.
I quote a recent anecdote:
"Were here to save your ass, not kiss it".
Edited by time2react on Tuesday 16th October 18:54
time2react said:
Brother Mycroft said:
time2react said:
Some people will never learn. This is why I love sending them to court for Undertaking. It is driving without due care and consideration for other road users.
UNDERTAKNG is lovely because it gives me a chance to prosecute those that believe they don't have to play by the same rules as those that comply with them.
It is the same for those that remain in the outside lanes unnecessarily. Enjoy your day in court.
You do the police service no favours at exactly the same time. Enjoy a life time of contempt.UNDERTAKNG is lovely because it gives me a chance to prosecute those that believe they don't have to play by the same rules as those that comply with them.
It is the same for those that remain in the outside lanes unnecessarily. Enjoy your day in court.
I quote a recent anecdote:
"Were here is save your ass, not kiss it".
A/. It is my opinion that the manner in which this Countries speeding laws are acted upon [just as in that rather vile post of yours] has in fact lowered the driving standards in the UK.
B/. In my opinion this lowering of standards has caused uncountable loss of life.
So, no... my not so nice pal, you are not going to save my ass with that attitude, I am more likely to point it at you and fart in your general direction.
http://www.80stees.com/images/products/Monty_Pytho...
Brother Mycroft said:
time2react said:
Brother Mycroft said:
time2react said:
Some people will never learn. This is why I love sending them to court for Undertaking. It is driving without due care and consideration for other road users.
UNDERTAKNG is lovely because it gives me a chance to prosecute those that believe they don't have to play by the same rules as those that comply with them.
It is the same for those that remain in the outside lanes unnecessarily. Enjoy your day in court.
You do the police service no favours at exactly the same time. Enjoy a life time of contempt.UNDERTAKNG is lovely because it gives me a chance to prosecute those that believe they don't have to play by the same rules as those that comply with them.
It is the same for those that remain in the outside lanes unnecessarily. Enjoy your day in court.
I quote a recent anecdote:
"Were here is save your ass, not kiss it".
A/. It is my opinion that the manner in which this Countries speeding laws are acted upon [just as in that rather vile post of yours] has in fact lowered the driving standards in the UK.
B/. In my opinion this lowering of standards has caused uncountable loss of life.
So, no... my not so nice pal, you are not going to save my ass with that attitude, I am more likely to point it at you and fart in your general direction.
http://www.80stees.com/images/products/Monty_Pytho...
But the more we Prosecute those that do not wish to take advice or learn from a verbal warning the better. keep it up. You only get 12 points, then you is walking.
Yung Man said:
time2react said:
Some people will never learn.
It is the same for those that remain in the outside lanes unnecessarily. Enjoy your day in court.
How many people (roughly) have you booked for either example of inconsiderate driving?, perhaps if you spent more time booking people for being in lane 3 (when they should keep left) then you would'nt need to book people for undertaking.It is the same for those that remain in the outside lanes unnecessarily. Enjoy your day in court.
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