Dipping clutch for a second - taking the edge of speed

[_Neal_]

If the "reason" you're talking about is that you thought it was a stupid question, then you're making my point for me.

[Strangely Brown]

_Neal_ said:

If the "reason" you're talking about is that you thought it was a stupid question, then you're making my point for me.

Errr... it was a stupid question, and he got a number of responses all saying pretty much the same thing, plus a few more that were clearly taking the piss.

Further, it was assumed that he is not "starting his learning" because it was assumed that [by his name] he drives a scooby - Oh, wait a minute, OK, you may have a point there...

and ... I cannot cause or give offence by anything I say, offence can only be taken by the reader. If he is so easily offended that someone pointing out the blatantly obvious makes him leave then perhaps he would be better on another forum. PH can get a bit rough at times you know.

Edited by Strangely Brown on Friday 15th February 17:14

[andy_quantum]

timskipper said:

andy_quantum said:

If there's enough room and no danger, I've found moving left to right ever so slightly can do more to reduce speed than lifting off, a little controlled weave if you will.

Goodness me they're all coming out today! Are you a spy too?

Edited by timskipper on Wednesday 13th February 19:09

Say what?

[GreenV8S]

andy_quantum said:

Say what?

I didn't quite follow that either. I suspect what he was trying to say is that swerving to lose speed is a pretty bizarre thing to do - it's not going to lose much speed at all but is going to use grip, destabilise the car and potentially distract the people around you for no good reason.

[LordGrover]

GreenV8S said:

andy_quantum said:

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Mr H, have you an improved video of your V8S yet? The video on PH.tv has rather whetted my appetite.

[GreenV8S]

LordGrover said:

Mr H, have you an improved video of your V8S yet? The video on PH.tv has rather whetted my appetite.

Which video are you thinking about? There are various in-car videos that predate the supercharger. The short clip of the s/c running on PH.tv is terrible quality; there's a slightly better quality version of the same clip here:

http://www.tvrsseries.com/sowners/greenv8s/greenv8...

[LordGrover]

GreenV8S said:

LordGrover said:

Mr H, have you an improved video of your V8S yet? The video on PH.tv has rather whetted my appetite.

Which video are you thinking about? There are various in-car videos that predate the supercharger. The short clip of the s/c running on PH.tv is terrible quality; there's a slightly better quality version of the same clip here:

http://www.tvrsseries.com/sowners/greenv8s/greenv8...

Yep. That's the one. It sounds awesome!
I presume it goes as well as it sounds?

Apologies to OP

[King Herald]

andrew! said:

andy_quantum said:

If there's enough room and no danger, I've found moving left to right ever so slightly can do more to reduce speed than lifting off, a little controlled weave if you will.

gently nudging the car in front can reduce your speed too
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I find driving about 12" away from the vehicle in front almost completely avoids any damage if you have a bump, as you stop almost as soon as they do, not much differential in speed to cause damage, plus you don't really need to pay much attention to the road either.

well, seeing as the fruitcakes are coming out on this thread

[jamesgrrr]

King Herald said:

Scoobman said:

Strangely Brown said:

How about just looking further ahead and using acceleration sense. i.e. take your foot off the throttle.

Condesending responses like the one above - is why I think I will stop posting.

You have never been in a car with me so how do you know what my observation skills are like

Seeing as I was extensively trained in surveillence in a previous life .... I some how suspect that my powers of observation might be a touch better than yours.

______________________________________

This is my last post in advanced driving - no hard feelings
Best wishes all.
Scoobman

Wow, I find it hard to understand your indignation, after all, dipping the clutch is the LAST thing I would do to lose a little speed on a motorway.

You dip the clutch, the engine revs higher, you release the clutch, your engine takes the drive again and speeds you back up slightly. And leaving the throttle where it is you will just speed back up to your original speed

As most others have mentioned, backing the throttle off a fraction is by far the simplest way to achieve the objective.

sorry but when i dip my clutch, my engine doesn't rev higher, it loses revs. and when i release the clutch, the engine gets back up to revs, and loses speed by doing so

[King Herald]

jamesgrrr said:

King Herald said:

Scoobman said:

Strangely Brown said:

How about just looking further ahead and using acceleration sense. i.e. take your foot off the throttle.

Condesending responses like the one above - is why I think I will stop posting.

You have never been in a car with me so how do you know what my observation skills are like

Seeing as I was extensively trained in surveillence in a previous life .... I some how suspect that my powers of observation might be a touch better than yours.

______________________________________

This is my last post in advanced driving - no hard feelings
Best wishes all.
Scoobman

Wow, I find it hard to understand your indignation, after all, dipping the clutch is the LAST thing I would do to lose a little speed on a motorway.

You dip the clutch, the engine revs higher, you release the clutch, your engine takes the drive again and speeds you back up slightly. And leaving the throttle where it is you will just speed back up to your original speed

As most others have mentioned, backing the throttle off a fraction is by far the simplest way to achieve the objective.

sorry but when i dip my clutch, my engine doesn't rev higher, it loses revs. and when i release the clutch, the engine gets back up to revs, and loses speed by doing so

So, when you are driving on the motorway, in your car, as per the OP, and slowly gaining on the car in front, as per the OP, you don't actually have your foot on the throttle???

Wow, I gotta get me one of those!!.

[waremark]

King Herald said:

So, when you are driving on the motorway, in your car, as per the OP, and slowly gaining on the car in front, as per the OP, you don't actually have your foot on the throttle???

Wow, I gotta get me one of those!!.

I rest easily in the driver's seat, no feet on the peddles, watching a TV display. The display shows me approaching the vehicle in front, compares my present following distance with a 2 second gap, and the adaptive cruise control smoothly reduces speed to follow 2 seconds behind the car in front. If the car in front moves over my car smoothly resumes its preset speed.

Actually, I am not that keen on the adaptive cruise control, but I can do exactly this if I choose.

I have never been tempted to dip the cluch to slow down - still less to drag the clutch by deliberately raising it with a mismatch between engine speed and road speed.

[atom-ick]

This is a briliant topic - made my day!

[atom-ick]

andy_quantum said:

If there's enough room and no danger, I've found moving left to right ever so slightly can do more to reduce speed than lifting off, a little controlled weave if you will.

If you're rapidly approaching another vehicle it can be a bit aggressive as you're in one mirror then the other, but thats probably not a good scenario to be in anyway

You are brilliant - this is one of those posts that you show everyone in your office so that everyone can laugh at it.

It was a joke, right?

[roy e6]

A question like this, and some of the replies, in the Advanced Driving Forum

Priceless

[Hooli]

if this is the level of advanced driving here id hate to see the retarded driving forum.

how can anyone have got as far as their test & not noticed that engine braking slows you more than freewheeling?

Edited by Hooli on Sunday 2nd March 20:33

[MarcusRx8]

What is cadence clutching ?

I remove my foot from the accelerator to remove speed. I will never touch the break unless I have to and if I have to I have obviously done something wrong.

[King Herald]

MarcusRx8 said:

What is cadence clutching ?

I remove my foot from the accelerator to remove speed. I will never touch the break unless I have to and if I have to I have obviously done something wrong.

Obviously? Hmm, I use mine all the time, as it takes forever to slow down into roundabouts or junctions without touching the brakes, especially ones at the bottom of a motorway slip road.

[GreenV8S]

King Herald said:

Obviously? Hmm, I use mine all the time, as it takes forever to slow down into roundabouts or junctions without touching the brakes, especially ones at the bottom of a motorway slip road.

Eedjit, just scrape it against the armco if you need to 'take the edge off', far more effective than swerving across the motorway and saves any unnecessary wear on the brake pads.

[rsv gone!]

King Herald said:

MarcusRx8 said:

I remove my foot from the accelerator to remove speed. I will never touch the break unless I have to and if I have to I have obviously done something wrong.

Obviously? Hmm, I use mine all the time, as it takes forever to slow down into roundabouts or junctions without touching the brakes, especially ones at the bottom of a motorway slip road.

I dare say you know the point he was trying to make, although not so eloquently?

(Importance of acceleration sense, for those that don't)

[King Herald]

rsv gone! said:

King Herald said:

MarcusRx8 said:

I remove my foot from the accelerator to remove speed. I will never touch the break unless I have to and if I have to I have obviously done something wrong.

Obviously? Hmm, I use mine all the time, as it takes forever to slow down into roundabouts or junctions without touching the brakes, especially ones at the bottom of a motorway slip road.

I dare say you know the point he was trying to make, although not so eloquently?

(Importance of acceleration sense, for those that don't)

You are indeed correct kind sir, but since when has common sense and rationality got in the way of a good mickey take on PH?

My own motto whilst on the motorway, and indeed on most roads: be smooth and predictable.