Clutch slip?

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mccarn

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641 posts

198 months

Friday 15th February 2008
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Hi all, anyway to tell if the clutch is slipping? I haven't been driving long and the car has only done 20,000 miles. Thanks

GreenV8S

30,208 posts

285 months

Friday 15th February 2008
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The usual reason for it slipping is that it is not quite capable of taking full torque from the engine. Sometimes if it's marginal it will just shift slightly under the pulsing torque from the engine rather than obviously slip and let the engine spin up. A way to tell whether this may be a problem is to pull away firmly and see how positively the clutch pulls the engine revs down if you engage it quickly. The clutch should pull the engine revs down promptly with a jolt even with full throttle on, but if the engine revs take a while to drop down and it feels as if the clutch is barely overcoming the engine torque, you have a problem. This isn't a test that you want to do very often since it is moderately hard on the clutch, but is OK just to see if there's a problem.

The other symptom is a burning smell if you accelerate hard through the power band in top gear.

rsv gone!

11,288 posts

242 months

Friday 15th February 2008
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Give it full throttle in the higher gears. If the engine note rises but the speed doesn't then your clutch is shagged.

If you want to eek out the life of it then get in the habit of letting the clutch out very early as you move off.

mccarn

Original Poster:

641 posts

198 months

Friday 15th February 2008
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Thanks, I think I'm safe in that case then. Hopefully its just wheelspin with the roads being greasy!

GreenV8S

30,208 posts

285 months

Friday 15th February 2008
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mccarn said:
Hopefully its just wheelspin
If you can't tell the difference between wheelspin and clutch slip, are you sure you should be driving the car?

_Neal_

2,669 posts

220 months

Friday 15th February 2008
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Harsh. In my experience with a powerful FWD car (modded Fiat Coupe Turbo - owned by a friend) it can be difficult to tell, if you're testing by say, booting at in a high gear and looking for the revs flaring up. On a rwd car it'd be easier to feel.

rsv gone!

11,288 posts

242 months

Friday 15th February 2008
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GreenV8S said:
mccarn said:
Hopefully its just wheelspin
If you can't tell the difference between wheelspin and clutch slip, are you sure you should be driving the car?
I was wondering the same thing

_Neal_

2,669 posts

220 months

Friday 15th February 2008
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Oh look, a cloud of Smug is forming.

rolleyes

Don

28,377 posts

285 months

Friday 15th February 2008
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_Neal_ said:
Harsh. In my experience with a powerful FWD car (modded Fiat Coupe Turbo - owned by a friend) it can be difficult to tell, if you're testing by say, booting at in a high gear and looking for the revs flaring up. On a rwd car it'd be easier to feel.
confused But in a FWD car when the drive wheels slip the steering judders fairly dramatically. I regularly drive a FWD car in greasy conditions and wheel slip is instantly recognisable. Happens to be the clutch is (slowly) going in it and it's very, very different.

_Neal_

2,669 posts

220 months

Friday 15th February 2008
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I'm not disagreeing with that, just simply reporting how it felt to me whilst carrying out that test in that particular car smile

rsv gone!

11,288 posts

242 months

Friday 15th February 2008
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_Neal_ said:
Oh look, a cloud of Smug is forming.

rolleyes
hehe


Sorry!

_Neal_

2,669 posts

220 months

Friday 15th February 2008
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biggrin

I liked the phrase too.


balls-out

3,613 posts

232 months

Friday 15th February 2008
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drive at about 30 mph in 4th Gear. Accelerate firmly and then 'dip' the clutch (ie a quick push ahd release) rapidly whilst keeping the loud pedal down. one of the following will occur:
- the revs will rise as the clutch goes down and then drop as the clutch is reapplied
- The revs stay up or drop very slowly - your clutch is past its best and don't go repeating this test you will need a recovery vehcile
- the revs stay up and the wheels spins massively - in this case you are in a car way way way in excess of your ablities given this question - buy a metro


Edited by balls-out on Friday 15th February 16:41

crisisjez

9,209 posts

206 months

Monday 18th February 2008
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GreenV8S said:
mccarn said:
Hopefully its just wheelspin
If you can't tell the difference between wheelspin and clutch slip, are you sure you should be driving the car?
Very helpful and `advanced` comment.

Well done, i`m sure the op will value your input.

Colonial

13,553 posts

206 months

Monday 18th February 2008
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rsv gone! said:
Give it full throttle in the higher gears. If the engine note rises but the speed doesn't then your clutch is shagged.
I drive a 4 cylinder 3 series.

This happens no matter what condition the clutch is in

GreenV8S

30,208 posts

285 months

Monday 18th February 2008
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crisisjez said:
Very helpful and `advanced` comment.

Well done, i`m sure the op will value your input.
Perhaps he will since I have told him how to tell whether he has clutch slip.

He only commented later that he couldn't tell whether it was clutch slip or wheel spin. The difference is very important and I wouldn't expect any competent driver to have trouble telling them apart. If you can't tell the difference you should NOT imo be driving the car like that since one problem will destroy the clutch and leave you stranded, the other may result in losing control of the vehicle.

kazste

5,679 posts

199 months

Sunday 2nd March 2008
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best way if you drive a seat diesel cupra to see if you have clutch slip is the following:
have you paid £900 plus fitting for Sachs clutch, no the it'll be clutch slip all the wayfurious

before any seat owners shout at me yes i own one (have had three) and they all have had clutch slip within 9k miles.

but seriously put in high gear (5th or 6th) get engine to peak horsepower or torque depending on type of engine, boot it, if revs rapidly rise, then stay stationary for a second or two then rise again at normal slower rate you have clutch slip.