Merging onto a motorway when the slip road is finishing

[bobtail4x4]

Has anyone gone from the M62 to the new bit of the A1 north recently, its a rising sliproad with about 50 yards of access before the sliproad ends, plenty of room to extend it but it just stops.

[bobtail4x4]

just followed a toyota estate down a slip road at 40mph, at the bottom he BRAKED to 30mph and pulled out in front of an artic,
fortunatley for him the artic took to the centre lane,

[wycoller]

Hugo a Gogo said:

if you can't make that junction safely, stay off the motorways (if not the roads altogether)

U wouldn't be German by any chance ,

[Hugo a Gogo]

wycoller said:

Hugo a Gogo said:

if you can't make that junction safely, stay off the motorways (if not the roads altogether)

U wouldn't be German by any chance ,

No, but maybe I've lived here too long

[Paula Crosse]

The other reason you cannot merge on the Motorway from the slip road is due to lane hoggers! They continue in this lane even if their not due to come off for 7+ miles. THEY should move over when traffic is trying to enter the motorway... ridiculous. Best one is trying to come off a motorway! Lorries in particular are All bunched up missing bumpers and will not let you off. Same type of people would open a door for you.

[lyonspride]

Paula Crosse said:

The other reason you cannot merge on the Motorway from the slip road is due to lane hoggers! They continue in this lane even if their not due to come off for 7+ miles. THEY should move over when traffic is trying to enter the motorway... ridiculous. Best one is trying to come off a motorway! Lorries in particular are All bunched up missing bumpers and will not let you off. Same type of people would open a door for you.

Not only have you resurrected a very dead thread, but your statement is more about your fear (feelings) of what might happen, than actually what really happens.

I've never had a problem entering or leaving a motorway, as long as your entering at 60+ mph, you will not have a problem because HGVs are limited to 56mph, which means traffic in lane 1 won't normally be doing more than that.
If your sat their running out of slip lane, trying to enter and HGVs are overtaking you, then your simply driving too slowly.

[dvenman]

Paula Crosse said:

The other reason you cannot merge on the Motorway from the slip road is due to lane hoggers! They continue in this lane even if their not due to come off for 7+ miles. THEY should move over when traffic is trying to enter the motorway... ridiculous. Best one is trying to come off a motorway! Lorries in particular are All bunched up missing bumpers and will not let you off. Same type of people would open a door for you.

3 years dead is better than quoting and commenting on a 10 year old post, in another recent thread...

"They should move over when traffic is trying to enter the motorway" - there's no requirement to do so and it's up to the joiner to fit in. And if you're not planning far enough ahead to fit into a stream of heavy traffic to leave, then look further ahead and plan better...

[Boosted LS1]

I just get in there when a gap arrives or not as is the case. Never had a problem.

[RobM77]

Interestingly, in 24 years of driving I've never had any problems on slip roads, and I'm trying quite hard to think why, because I'm not aware of them being challenging or even coming close to needing to slow; I just get up to 60-70mph and join. The only place I've come close to having a problem is on a really short slip road I've take daily onto the A34 for four years: once or twice I've had to slow to 45-50mph to tuck in behind a lorry, but I've certainly never run out of slip road.

OP: are you indicating properly (i.e. before you join, indicating your intentions)? Looking at potential gaps early on and monitoring them using your mirrors?

[cosicave]

An interesting thread.

The original question has evolved into something very fundamental – which appears to have been overlooked by all contributors thus far. I say 'appears' because I cannot be certain.

This – my opening (and possibly closing) contribution – is intended to coax a generalised, 99%+ solution from someone else.

The wood is in the trees; and the OP stands at the start of the path which leads to them.

[daveblue]

Hi i called herts police and they said if no one can give way to you when joining from slip road due to traffic then its ok to use the brakedown lane with indicator flashing you wish to pull out, i phoned them due to a two lane motorway i wanted to join and no one could give way due to second lane being full of traffic they told me you should not stop in this situation but as said to join via bdown lane.

[Peter3442]

RobM77 said:

Interestingly, in 24 years of driving I've never had any problems on slip roads, and I'm trying quite hard to think why, because I'm not aware of them being challenging or even coming close to needing to slow; I just get up to 60-70mph and join. The only place I've come close to having a problem is on a really short slip road I've take daily onto the A34 for four years: once or twice I've had to slow to 45-50mph to tuck in behind a lorry, but I've certainly never run out of slip road.

OP: are you indicating properly (i.e. before you join, indicating your intentions)? Looking at potential gaps early on and monitoring them using your mirrors?

I agree no problem on motorways, but the A34 has many slip roads that are far too short (or even non-existent), have no hard shoulder for emergency extension of the run-in and don't allow a decent view of approaching vehicles. To compound the problems, the A34 seems to bring the worst out of people. Their are some little enclaves where I believe the only way out by car is onto the A34 with little or no slip road - must be a great way to start a morning commute in a small car with a cold engine.

[Veryoldbear]

Peter3442 said:

I agree no problem on motorways, but the A34 has many slip roads that are far too short (or even non-existent), have no hard shoulder for emergency extension of the run-in and don't allow a decent view of approaching vehicles. To compound the problems, the A34 seems to bring the worst out of people. Their are some little enclaves where I believe the only way out by car is onto the A34 with little or no slip road - must be a great way to start a morning commute in a small car with a cold engine.

Yep, the A34 is my local friendly dual carriageway and there are some really crap slip roads, sometimes made worse by extensive vegetation. Why the standards for dual carriageway slip roads differ from motorway slip roads escapes me.

[Pica-Pica]

Veryoldbear said:

Peter3442 said:

I agree no problem on motorways, but the A34 has many slip roads that are far too short (or even non-existent), have no hard shoulder for emergency extension of the run-in and don't allow a decent view of approaching vehicles. To compound the problems, the A34 seems to bring the worst out of people. Their are some little enclaves where I believe the only way out by car is onto the A34 with little or no slip road - must be a great way to start a morning commute in a small car with a cold engine.

Yep, the A34 is my local friendly dual carriageway and there are some really crap slip roads, sometimes made worse by extensive vegetation. Why the standards for dual carriageway slip roads differ from motorway slip roads escapes me.

Essentially, motorways are installed where there is more land and space to create suitable slip roads, A roads have mostly evolved from earlier roads, often with buildings and houses already in place.

[wst]

Short slip roads are a curse and a blessing in disguise.

"I need at least 250hp because I have to deal with that slip road every day and any less is dangerous."