RE: Chimaera LS6

RE: Chimaera LS6

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jellison

12,803 posts

278 months

Thursday 6th October 2005
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More Real Traction than with the RV8, unless really abusing it then, er well as you can imagine you can spin the wheels all day. Soft std Griff / Chim 500 suspension helps, so when it get shit hot suspension maybe it will seem like less traction but better handling - all a trade off - but on straight road nothing will get near it.

dinkel

26,957 posts

259 months

Thursday 6th October 2005
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jellison said:
. . . - but on straight road nothing will get near it.


Did you race an AJP8 Cerb yet?

GTRene

16,587 posts

225 months

Thursday 6th October 2005
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dinkel said:



Did you race an AJP8 Cerb yet?

Hey Albert, the Cerbera 4.5 RR Leightweight was also my favoriet!now 2d, on photo's perfect in real does'nt look that nice as I thought...looks much longer then! but the interior I like better then the Sagaris and other tvr..but the Sagaris I like the outside!...
A fast Cerbera 4.5 can do 0-100 in about 8.3sec but the dreamcar I'm now after can do that 0-100(mile/h) in just 5.5sec! almost a second faster then a Mc Laren! and cost new about 7 times less its the faboules Ultima GTR....jammie!
But I like a fast TVR still as my second car, I had already 2 tvr's in my carlife
greetzzz also from the Netherlands
René

jellison

12,803 posts

278 months

Thursday 6th October 2005
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dinkel said:

jellison said:
. . . - but on straight road nothing will get near it.



Did you race an AJP8 Cerb yet?
No - but see Whiteys comment having driven both and owning a Tuscan RR!

Jon,

Thanks for taking me for a spin today, a Cerbera 4.5 RR, Tuscan RR/S or Sagaris would not see which way your car went in a straight line....!

I have not been scared by the power of a car for ages...!

Mental grunt! So smooth! The torque is immense and jeez does it rev...!

I cannot see tyres lasting long even with it's great traction!

cheers
Whitey

PS. Now all I need is this engine in my Tuscan....

A good bit more power and torque and 100kg less weight!!!!

LS V8s in Miatas

211 posts

225 months

Friday 7th October 2005
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Jon,

I'd really like to hear you guys express your observations and opinions comaparing the Rover V8s, even the high performance versions to the GM LS V8s.

I hear a handful of people here in the US tout weigh advantages (they say the Rover V8s are much lighter than the Chevy) and claim performance advantages over the GM V8s.

Is any of this true? I've never even seen a Rover V8!

It's my understanding some TVRs have Rover V8s in them? Is this right? Are they quick do they handle?

Thanks,
- Lee

tvrolet

4,277 posts

283 months

Friday 7th October 2005
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LS V8s in Miatas said:
It's my understanding some TVRs have Rover V8s in them? Is this right?

Yes - V8s, Wedges, Chimaera & Griffith.

Note that the 'Rover V8' as built by Rover goes up to 3.5 litres only. The TVR engines are/were built by TVR [power] with capacities up to 5.0 (and now they're doing a 5.2), so a 'TVR Rover V8' is not exactly the same as a 'standard' Rover V8, if such a thing exists.
LS V8s in Miatas said:
Are they quick

Yes, especially in 4.5, 5.0 and 5.2 guise. But not as quick (in standard form) as TVR's current Speed 6s or recent AJP V8 cars.
LS V8s in Miatas said:
do they handle?

Yes, but they benefit from a suspension upgrade. Not a funtion of the engine however

WB

GreenV8S

30,208 posts

285 months

Friday 7th October 2005
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tvrolet said:
Note that the 'Rover V8' as built by Rover goes up to 3.5 litres only.


As far as I'm aware, it started life at 3.5 litres and later grew to 3.9 and then 4.6 litres.

jellison

12,803 posts

278 months

Sunday 9th October 2005
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Lee - I'll write something longish tomorrow - watching GP. Jon

zumbruk

7,848 posts

261 months

Monday 10th October 2005
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tvrolet said:
Note that the 'Rover V8' as built by Rover goes up to 3.5 litres only.


I wonder what's propelling a 4.6HSE Range Rover, then?


tvrolet

4,277 posts

283 months

Monday 10th October 2005
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GreenV8S said:

tvrolet said:
Note that the 'Rover V8' as built by Rover goes up to 3.5 litres only.



As far as I'm aware, it started life at 3.5 litres and later grew to 3.9 and then 4.6 litres.

zumbruk said:

tvrolet said:
Note that the 'Rover V8' as built by Rover goes up to 3.5 litres only.



I wonder what's propelling a 4.6HSE Range Rover, then?



My original comment was just to differentiate TVRs variant of the 'Rover' engine from others, i.e.that a TVR 'Rover' V8 isn't the same as an ordinary 'Rover V8'. One can then argue what actually is a 'Rover V8'...as opposed to engines based on the Rover unit? It could reasonably be argued that the 3.9 and 4.6 engines are Range Rover units and thus different to the 'original Rover' V8 in much the same way as a TVR or Morgan 'Rover V8' differs from the base 'Rover' unit. Not that I'm a Rover expert, but did ROVER (where the original post Buick engine came from, as opposed to Range Rover, Land Rover, TVR, Morgan, whatever) make the 'original' engines in greater than 3.5 litres?

Hell, who cares, I've got 6.3 litres . I'm also led to believe that the Chevy heads breath better than the standard (or whatever standard is) Rover heads.

WB

trinitycall

655 posts

237 months

Monday 10th October 2005
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zumbruk said:

tvrolet said:
Note that the 'Rover V8' as built by Rover goes up to 3.5 litres only.



I wonder what's propelling a 4.6HSE Range Rover, then?




A 4.6 litre BMW engine

GreenV8S

30,208 posts

285 months

Monday 10th October 2005
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Yes it could be argued that the Rover engine never evolved beyond the SD1 3.5, because no later V8 engines were ever fitted in a car built by Rover (as opposed to Land Rover). But I don't see the relevance. The production line was taken over by Land Rover but it was still the same production line and still producing engines that were referred to as the Rover V8, and it evolved through various capacities up to 4.6 liters. So in that sense I think it would be wrong to say that the Rover engine only went up to 3.5 liters. TVR (and Morgan etc) built Rover engines are not identical to the production Rover V8 engines but they are based on the same castings, crank etc. It is basically the same engine.

Graham

16,368 posts

285 months

Tuesday 11th October 2005
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GreenV8S said:
Yes it could be argued that the Rover engine never evolved beyond the SD1 3.5, because no later V8 engines were ever fitted in a car built by Rover


wasnt the last of the sdi vitesse models fitted with the 3.9?

zumbruk

7,848 posts

261 months

Tuesday 11th October 2005
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trinitycall said:

zumbruk said:


tvrolet said:
Note that the 'Rover V8' as built by Rover goes up to 3.5 litres only.




I wonder what's propelling a 4.6HSE Range Rover, then?





A 4.6 litre BMW engine


Naah, it's a 4.6 litre Ford engine, now.

Although since they're not being made any more, it's nobody's engine.

jellison

12,803 posts

278 months

Tuesday 11th October 2005
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Bollox just wrote an essay on Rv8 stuff an it has bombed out on me - Bloox to it.

Basically you can spend MASSIVE amounts to get simalar LS6 power on a what started as an RV8.

i.e. all steel, 5.3/5, wildcat head all the work and labour carbs, etc could be 12 - 18 grand.

Crap - It was long and well written as well - not my usually speedy unthought through reply!

seasider

12,728 posts

250 months

Tuesday 11th October 2005
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jellison said:
Basically you can spend MASSIVE amounts to get simalar LS6 power on a what started as an RV8.
What figures are you calling similar?

zumbruk

7,848 posts

261 months

Tuesday 11th October 2005
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jellison said:
Bollox just wrote an essay on Rv8 stuff an it has bombed out on me - Bloox to it.


Computers, eh?

jellison said:
Basically you can spend MASSIVE amounts to get simalar LS6 power on a what started as an RV8.

i.e. all steel, 5.3/5, wildcat head all the work and labour carbs, etc could be 12 - 18 grand.


This is a good point, but where can take my Chimaera and a pile of cash and ask "Stuff an LS6 in that, please", whereas I can take the aforementioned cash & car to any number of places and say "Another 100bhp, please". AFAIK, all the 'vette transplants going on in the UK are DIY efforts.

Bit of a business opportunity there, perhaps?

jellison

12,803 posts

278 months

Tuesday 11th October 2005
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High 300's to 400bhp and ft/lbs (both in the same engine!). i.e. a Guilotine type all singing engine.

seasider

12,728 posts

250 months

Tuesday 11th October 2005
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jellison said:
High 300's to 400bhp and ft/lbs (both in the same engine!). i.e. a Guilotine type all singing engine.
What about low/mid 300 & High 300lbft....

boosted ls1

21,188 posts

261 months

Tuesday 11th October 2005
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zumbruk said:



This is a good point, but where can take my Chimaera and a pile of cash and ask "Stuff an LS6 in that, please", whereas I can take the aforementioned cash & car to any number of places and say "Another 100bhp, please". AFAIK, all the 'vette transplants going on in the UK are DIY efforts.

Bit of a business opportunity there, perhaps?


LOL, I was offering this conversion eons ago! If you're serious about a conversion and have a suitably large pile of cash then by all means feel free to pm me about specifications.

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