S60 D5... owners
Discussion
I've looked at Michelin and they do claim to last longer but is it really worth the £30 premium per corner? I'm a costco member but its still £100 a corner fitted.
Didn't know the D5 was an ally block, its still a hefty old lump though, they take 6.5 ltrs of oil and an age to warm up.
Didn't know the D5 was an ally block, its still a hefty old lump though, they take 6.5 ltrs of oil and an age to warm up.
My v70 used to be quite heavy on front tyres. Didn't seem to matter what brand either.
The s60 had some weird Serbian tyres on it that meant wet roads were like driving on lard, on top of ice whilst blindfolded.
Just fitted falken 452s (16s) for £135 fitted a pair.
Huge difference and the weird sidewall flex is gone now. Car used to keep wobbling when you stopped like an old yank tank.
Mpg is stubbornly 49 mpg. I filled it to brim other week and got 720 miles, so very pleased with it.
The control arms are getting urgent tho.
The s60 had some weird Serbian tyres on it that meant wet roads were like driving on lard, on top of ice whilst blindfolded.
Just fitted falken 452s (16s) for £135 fitted a pair.
Huge difference and the weird sidewall flex is gone now. Car used to keep wobbling when you stopped like an old yank tank.
Mpg is stubbornly 49 mpg. I filled it to brim other week and got 720 miles, so very pleased with it.
The control arms are getting urgent tho.
Garett said:
I've looked at Michelin and they do claim to last longer but is it really worth the £30 premium per corner? I'm a costco member but its still £100 a corner fitted.
Didn't know the D5 was an ally block, its still a hefty old lump though, they take 6.5 ltrs of oil and an age to warm up.
I really do think it is worth it , may be in the mind but I swear the fuel consumption got better at the same time.Didn't know the D5 was an ally block, its still a hefty old lump though, they take 6.5 ltrs of oil and an age to warm up.
P Zeros on mine as well. The car came with them so I don't have anything to compare them too, but they seem grippy and don't generate much road noise. Still plenty of tread left as well after a few thousand miles.
I've never driven a more composed car on the motorway either - it doesn't seem to be affected by crosswinds which makes it a very pleasant car to drive when the weather is bad. I suppose the slightly numb steering helps in this regard.
Super Slo Mo said:
The car now feels reassuringly stable on the twisties, much more composed and assured. It's still a big, heavy car, so no MX-5, but it's a massive improvement over what it was last week. It's much more stable on the motorway too, without the slightly nerve-wracking sideways mid-corner twitches that's plagued it when hitting a bump or expansion gap since I've had it.
I think the S60 handles quite well considering its target market. It is more of a cruiser but like you say, it is very stable in the bends and turns in well - the only thing that really lets it down is the quite light steering. I quite enjoy hustling it across country, the engine is always willing.I've never driven a more composed car on the motorway either - it doesn't seem to be affected by crosswinds which makes it a very pleasant car to drive when the weather is bad. I suppose the slightly numb steering helps in this regard.
I'm still on the hunt for a suitable car and also on the hunt for a suitable car for the other half's father. Ironically we both had a similar shortlist: estate, Euro 3 and plenty toys however I'm now finding myself being increasingly tempted by the likes of an ex-police V70 T5 or S60 T5. My annual mileage isn't huge so it's down to running costs... the T5 would be unquestionably dearer however a similar spec diesel is more expensive to buy so it may level out.
I worked out based on the current cars I own, one of which is a 2.0 Turbo petrol and the other a 2.5 turbo-diesel that over the course of 1000 miles... the diesel is slightly cheaper, but only by say around £12.00. So, if an S60 D5 can return for arguments sake, 45mpg and a T5 can return 35mpg then over the course of 10,000 miles... the T5 would cost £1700 in fuel, the D5 would be £1400 (this is very rough maths by the way!) so hence, somewhat confused and not helped by the fact finding nice V70 or S60 D5's with the Euro 3 engine and in the case of the S60, a facelift model, is proving difficult.
I worked out based on the current cars I own, one of which is a 2.0 Turbo petrol and the other a 2.5 turbo-diesel that over the course of 1000 miles... the diesel is slightly cheaper, but only by say around £12.00. So, if an S60 D5 can return for arguments sake, 45mpg and a T5 can return 35mpg then over the course of 10,000 miles... the T5 would cost £1700 in fuel, the D5 would be £1400 (this is very rough maths by the way!) so hence, somewhat confused and not helped by the fact finding nice V70 or S60 D5's with the Euro 3 engine and in the case of the S60, a facelift model, is proving difficult.
Davie said:
.....So, if an S60 D5 can return for arguments sake, 45mpg and a T5 can return 35mpg then over the course of 10,000 miles... the T5 would cost £1700 in fuel, the D5 would be £1400
Is 35mpg realistic from a T5 though?
Davie said:
so hence, somewhat confused and not helped by the fact finding nice V70 or S60 D5's with the Euro 3 engine and in the case of the S60, a facelift model, is proving difficult.
True - they all seem to be high mileage and tatty, or nice looking but unrealistically high prices at dealers.I'm also looking for a D5, in either V70 or S60 flavour, and keep looking at the option of a T5, or a SAAB 9-5 Aero Estate, but just think mpg is unlikely to reach 30.
littleandy0410 said:
Is 35mpg realistic from a T5 though?
Probably not! I suspect that's just wistful thinking on my behalf so as not to put me off buying one! I've had an 850 T5 and an S70R previously, both of which barely managed 25mpg with "normal" driving so yes, 35mpg is probably hopelessly optimistic! Damn, bubble burst!
Davie said:
littleandy0410 said:
Is 35mpg realistic from a T5 though?
Probably not! I suspect that's just wistful thinking on my behalf so as not to put me off buying one! I've had an 850 T5 and an S70R previously, both of which barely managed 25mpg with "normal" driving so yes, 35mpg is probably hopelessly optimistic! Damn, bubble burst!
Davie said:
Probably not! I suspect that's just wistful thinking on my behalf so as not to put me off buying one! I've had an 850 T5 and an S70R previously, both of which barely managed 25mpg with "normal" driving so yes, 35mpg is probably hopelessly optimistic!
Damn, bubble burst!
My V70 T5 used to return 22mpg - a mix of town and motorway.Damn, bubble burst!
Well, I now have a very dead V70....
Started surging slightly on the M1 this evening, about 60 miles from home. I knocked the cruise control off, and slowed down, it went into limp mode, then died. RAC chap couldn't get it going, so it got recovered back home (saved a bit of fuel though
there's always a silver lining).
Going to have a poke around with the fuel system tomorrow, otherwise it'll be getting dragged to a garage on Tuesday.
That was the culmination of a not great week in reliability terms, the windscreen split on Wednesday whilst I was washing the car (hot screen/cold water and a hitherto unnoticed small chip), on Friday I determined that the intercooler is probably split/leaking, and now this.
Oh well, these things happen I guess.
Started surging slightly on the M1 this evening, about 60 miles from home. I knocked the cruise control off, and slowed down, it went into limp mode, then died. RAC chap couldn't get it going, so it got recovered back home (saved a bit of fuel though
there's always a silver lining).Going to have a poke around with the fuel system tomorrow, otherwise it'll be getting dragged to a garage on Tuesday.
That was the culmination of a not great week in reliability terms, the windscreen split on Wednesday whilst I was washing the car (hot screen/cold water and a hitherto unnoticed small chip), on Friday I determined that the intercooler is probably split/leaking, and now this.
Oh well, these things happen I guess.
To update my quest for a either a S60 or V70 D5...
Having struggled to find anything suitable/tidy/within budget I threw caution to the wind and pondered over T5 powered cars for a bit before talking myself out of the idea and going back to search for a D5. nContacted three potential cars, two on Autotrader and one on Pistonheads. Grand total of... zero replies. Sent e.mails, tried ringing, left a couple of texts. Northing. Became very fed up with trying and yet failing to offload £5,000 on somebody so decided instead to buy an older 2.5D V70 for rattling around in whilst wondering what to do with the remaining £3,500. So, got a Volvo and it's a diesel but wasn't quite what I was after but seems an old old bus... few issues but nowt that can't be sorted, on that note... time to post an issue!
Regards
Having struggled to find anything suitable/tidy/within budget I threw caution to the wind and pondered over T5 powered cars for a bit before talking myself out of the idea and going back to search for a D5. nContacted three potential cars, two on Autotrader and one on Pistonheads. Grand total of... zero replies. Sent e.mails, tried ringing, left a couple of texts. Northing. Became very fed up with trying and yet failing to offload £5,000 on somebody so decided instead to buy an older 2.5D V70 for rattling around in whilst wondering what to do with the remaining £3,500. So, got a Volvo and it's a diesel but wasn't quite what I was after but seems an old old bus... few issues but nowt that can't be sorted, on that note... time to post an issue!
Regards
Super Slo Mo said:
Well, I now have a very dead V70....
Started surging slightly on the M1 this evening, about 60 miles from home. I knocked the cruise control off, and slowed down, it went into limp mode, then died. RAC chap couldn't get it going, so it got recovered back home (saved a bit of fuel though there's always a silver lining).
Going to have a poke around with the fuel system tomorrow, otherwise it'll be getting dragged to a garage on Tuesday.
That was the culmination of a not great week in reliability terms, the windscreen split on Wednesday whilst I was washing the car (hot screen/cold water and a hitherto unnoticed small chip), on Friday I determined that the intercooler is probably split/leaking, and now this.
Oh well, these things happen I guess.
Doesn't sound so good...hope you got this sorted?Started surging slightly on the M1 this evening, about 60 miles from home. I knocked the cruise control off, and slowed down, it went into limp mode, then died. RAC chap couldn't get it going, so it got recovered back home (saved a bit of fuel though
there's always a silver lining).Going to have a poke around with the fuel system tomorrow, otherwise it'll be getting dragged to a garage on Tuesday.
That was the culmination of a not great week in reliability terms, the windscreen split on Wednesday whilst I was washing the car (hot screen/cold water and a hitherto unnoticed small chip), on Friday I determined that the intercooler is probably split/leaking, and now this.
Oh well, these things happen I guess.
Davie said:
To update my quest for a either a S60 or V70 D5...
Having struggled to find anything suitable/tidy/within budget I threw caution to the wind and pondered over T5 powered cars for a bit before talking myself out of the idea and going back to search for a D5. nContacted three potential cars, two on Autotrader and one on Pistonheads. Grand total of... zero replies. Sent e.mails, tried ringing, left a couple of texts. Northing. Became very fed up with trying and yet failing to offload £5,000 on somebody so decided instead to buy an older 2.5D V70 for rattling around in whilst wondering what to do with the remaining £3,500. So, got a Volvo and it's a diesel but wasn't quite what I was after but seems an old old bus... few issues but nowt that can't be sorted, on that note... time to post an issue!
Regards
Shame you couldn't find a good seller - I think these cars are quite in demand at the moment but it is no excuse for not getting in touch with potential buyers! The old engine is quite good anyway and you've saved yourself a lot of money. Is it in the Mk 1 or 2 V70?Having struggled to find anything suitable/tidy/within budget I threw caution to the wind and pondered over T5 powered cars for a bit before talking myself out of the idea and going back to search for a D5. nContacted three potential cars, two on Autotrader and one on Pistonheads. Grand total of... zero replies. Sent e.mails, tried ringing, left a couple of texts. Northing. Became very fed up with trying and yet failing to offload £5,000 on somebody so decided instead to buy an older 2.5D V70 for rattling around in whilst wondering what to do with the remaining £3,500. So, got a Volvo and it's a diesel but wasn't quite what I was after but seems an old old bus... few issues but nowt that can't be sorted, on that note... time to post an issue!
Regards
ad551 said:
Super Slo Mo said:
Well, I now have a very dead V70....
Started surging slightly on the M1 this evening, about 60 miles from home. I knocked the cruise control off, and slowed down, it went into limp mode, then died. RAC chap couldn't get it going, so it got recovered back home (saved a bit of fuel though there's always a silver lining).
Going to have a poke around with the fuel system tomorrow, otherwise it'll be getting dragged to a garage on Tuesday.
That was the culmination of a not great week in reliability terms, the windscreen split on Wednesday whilst I was washing the car (hot screen/cold water and a hitherto unnoticed small chip), on Friday I determined that the intercooler is probably split/leaking, and now this.
Oh well, these things happen I guess.
Doesn't sound so good...hope you got this sorted?Started surging slightly on the M1 this evening, about 60 miles from home. I knocked the cruise control off, and slowed down, it went into limp mode, then died. RAC chap couldn't get it going, so it got recovered back home (saved a bit of fuel though
there's always a silver lining).Going to have a poke around with the fuel system tomorrow, otherwise it'll be getting dragged to a garage on Tuesday.
That was the culmination of a not great week in reliability terms, the windscreen split on Wednesday whilst I was washing the car (hot screen/cold water and a hitherto unnoticed small chip), on Friday I determined that the intercooler is probably split/leaking, and now this.
Oh well, these things happen I guess.
Davie said:
To update my quest for a either a S60 or V70 D5...
Having struggled to find anything suitable/tidy/within budget I threw caution to the wind and pondered over T5 powered cars for a bit before talking myself out of the idea and going back to search for a D5. nContacted three potential cars, two on Autotrader and one on Pistonheads. Grand total of... zero replies. Sent e.mails, tried ringing, left a couple of texts. Northing. Became very fed up with trying and yet failing to offload £5,000 on somebody so decided instead to buy an older 2.5D V70 for rattling around in whilst wondering what to do with the remaining £3,500. So, got a Volvo and it's a diesel but wasn't quite what I was after but seems an old old bus... few issues but nowt that can't be sorted, on that note... time to post an issue!
Regards
Shame you couldn't find a good seller - I think these cars are quite in demand at the moment but it is no excuse for not getting in touch with potential buyers! The old engine is quite good anyway and you've saved yourself a lot of money. Is it in the Mk 1 or 2 V70?Having struggled to find anything suitable/tidy/within budget I threw caution to the wind and pondered over T5 powered cars for a bit before talking myself out of the idea and going back to search for a D5. nContacted three potential cars, two on Autotrader and one on Pistonheads. Grand total of... zero replies. Sent e.mails, tried ringing, left a couple of texts. Northing. Became very fed up with trying and yet failing to offload £5,000 on somebody so decided instead to buy an older 2.5D V70 for rattling around in whilst wondering what to do with the remaining £3,500. So, got a Volvo and it's a diesel but wasn't quite what I was after but seems an old old bus... few issues but nowt that can't be sorted, on that note... time to post an issue!
Regards
kers, I bought mine through the owners forum 
but yeah they are in high demand (for a good reason) so finding a good one is not very easy...it took me ages to find mine
yes, got it fixed, thanks for asking. It was annoying simple too, just a blocked fuel filter, although it took a little while to trace it at my local specialist.
I've not had the intercooler done yet, but it's due a service in under 2000 miles, which will be another 3 weeks, so it can wait a bit.....
I've not had the intercooler done yet, but it's due a service in under 2000 miles, which will be another 3 weeks, so it can wait a bit.....
Super Slo Mo said:
yes, got it fixed, thanks for asking. It was annoying simple too, just a blocked fuel filter, although it took a little while to trace it at my local specialist.
I've not had the intercooler done yet, but it's due a service in under 2000 miles, which will be another 3 weeks, so it can wait a bit.....
D'oh, at least you got it fixed though and it wasn't terminal. Was it down to dodgy fuel or just a very old filter?I've not had the intercooler done yet, but it's due a service in under 2000 miles, which will be another 3 weeks, so it can wait a bit.....
old filter, looked like it'd been on there years. So much for the 'full service' it had when I bought it.
At least it's fixed though, and not terminal, it was a relief to get it back after spending 800 miles in a hired astra!
Frustratingly, the fuel filter was the first thing I mentioned to the rac man when he pulled me off the M1. I tend to run the tank from full to very low, so thought it could have dragged through some dirt. RAC chap dismissed it out of hand, as he tried copious amounts of easy start to get it going!
At least it's fixed though, and not terminal, it was a relief to get it back after spending 800 miles in a hired astra!
Frustratingly, the fuel filter was the first thing I mentioned to the rac man when he pulled me off the M1. I tend to run the tank from full to very low, so thought it could have dragged through some dirt. RAC chap dismissed it out of hand, as he tried copious amounts of easy start to get it going!
ad551 said:
Shame you couldn't find a good seller - I think these cars are quite in demand at the moment but it is no excuse for not getting in touch with potential buyers! The old engine is quite good anyway and you've saved yourself a lot of money. Is it in the Mk 1 or 2 V70?
Tell me about it! I started off wanting a diesel estate and then whittled it down to a 1.9TDi A4 or A6 or a Mk2 V70. Mrs Davie put her foot down and refused to entertain anything Volvo and thus went looking at Audis' before deciding they just didn't offer good value for money and hence, went back to either an S60 or V70 D5 but got fed up chasing dead ends or being ignored... or indeed, not being quick enough. With her cries of disgust ringing in my ears, I went looking at T5 powered cars and in the end, decided that the lack of fuel economy would be an issue. Back to Audi hunting. So, in the end... getting a bit fed up and with the other half point blank refusing to get in anything with a Volvo badge (such a snob!) especially "those old crappy, huge ones that farmers drive..." I found a 1999 (T) V70 2.5 Turbodiesel estate in Fire Engine red. Well, several shades of fire engine red. Whilst it's older then I had first planeed, it was a quarter of my budget plus is old enough that I won't be getting all anal about dents in the doors, throwing engines or a muddy mountain bike in the back or using it to drag the car trailer around. So far so good, few minor niggles as expected but on the whole... it's an ok old workshorse. Plus, the look on her face was worth the hassle as it clattered into the drive. Result!
Cheers
Must be good to have something to chuck the mountain bike in the back of! That is the only problem with the S60 - the boot is big but the access isn't great. My bike fits in fine but it is a bit of struggle to put it in in the first place. An old estate I didn't care about would be great - shame I don't have room for two cars. There is something very liberating about driving a car you don't really care about damaging!
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